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Post by ivo on Apr 24, 2010 11:42:51 GMT -5
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Post by ivo on Apr 25, 2010 10:46:27 GMT -5
Pazar, Gyrro, post something.. don't be shy, entertain us with your stupidity.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 25, 2010 20:46:12 GMT -5
^ Bulgaria, a nation almost disappeared, lost and lethargic brought back to life by Serbia is now a great nation with its rich multicultural heritage of asian and european (slavic, Vlach and whateva else) origin wants to glorify and maybe relive samuils multi-ethnic empire of greatness. P.S, even the people of this nation were ashamed to call themselves a Bulgar
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Post by ioan on Apr 26, 2010 0:07:26 GMT -5
Is this a quote or its one of your "greatest" thinking "achivements" Novi? A.k.a brain fart?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 26, 2010 7:11:40 GMT -5
^ So Ioan, tell me, yes or no, did Paijsie say the Bulgars were ashamed to call themselves Bulgars prior to the serbs bringing them back to life?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 26, 2010 7:17:48 GMT -5
^ So Ioan, tell me, yes or no, did Paijsie say the Bulgars were ashamed to call themselves Bulgars prior to the serbs bringing them back to life? Novi, can you find this text of Pajisije and digitize it and upload it somewhere?
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Post by ioan on Apr 26, 2010 14:11:17 GMT -5
Yes he said, it was his response to the intensive hellenization of the Bulgarians, it had nothing to do with Serfs or the assimilated Bulgarians - the Torlaks.
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Post by EriTopSheqeri on Apr 26, 2010 15:48:44 GMT -5
One photo a day, guys, otherwise Novi's head or heart may explode and you may be charged for it.
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Post by MiG on Apr 26, 2010 21:35:11 GMT -5
Good maps and sources. But a lot of inaccuracies around Bosnia. Nevertheless, not bad at all.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 26, 2010 22:37:06 GMT -5
Good maps and sources. But a lot of inaccuracies around Bosnia. Nevertheless, not bad at all. LMAO.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 26, 2010 22:48:47 GMT -5
In one of the maps, Ioannina my town was under Bulgarian rule, (or in some other logic, i am ...... simply Bulgarian). However, as far as i know, and besides the intense studies i made about slavic connections in my home land, i never found anything Bulgarian. No bulgarian ruler, or otherwise evidence. (except this one: www.kroraina.com/knigi/en/mv/mv_3_1a.htm#42)(but we know that according to Salamangas, inside albanian armies trying to conquer Ioannina as in the famous water battle in the lake in late 13th century, there were some bulgarians). Now, what i found was neither "pure" Serbian either, although the connections here are much much numerous (Preljubovic, Serviana, and a hell of more toponyms present either in SRB/BiH/CRO) It must have been some tribe (Vojnici) close to todays (ex)Krajina in Croatia (as the vast similarity of toponyms show). On thing is known: This tribe(s) spoke mostly Ekavica and said dry=suvo/suho (instead of just one form). of course these names may have been given by an either more a serb-ish or croat-ish sounding tribe. One thing for rather obvious, is that those tribes were like todays Yugoslavs, and not todays Bulgarians. www.kroraina.com/knigi/en/mv/mv_3_1a.htmas such, i find the maps of our friend Asen, irrelevant and a waste of time reading them. (there is nothing to read actually, they are just over-simplifications showing minimal instances in history (in best case). (just like Greece used to a German eparchy during WWII, however, now (unfortunately) we lack very basic German characteristics.
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Post by ioan on Apr 26, 2010 23:46:59 GMT -5
as such, i find the maps of our friend Asen, irrelevant uou the authority, him has spoken!!!! Beware!!! All should be silenced and take into consideration HIS words and thoughts. In the end, he is the biggest authority in todays historiography. His methods include "I feel", "I have a gut feeling that", "I think it can't be...(no reason given or worse -giving his illiogical resoning)... Its really laughable. Tirana boy, you can NOT rewrite history. You can study it, but you have shown us you are not interested in this part.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 27, 2010 1:42:25 GMT -5
^^^ stop being cheap and start doing your own homework (its never too late) (and by homework i dont mean reading/memorizing/copying/pasting/etc... i mean doing your own research, travel, open your eyes, see the road signs, get a feel. Only reading (biased and selected books) will not do you any good (as a matter of fact quite the opposite).
Where were you, you stupid chinese prostitute, when i was showing MANY identical toponyms in Epiros/Croatia and you responded "this sounds bulgarian", without being able to say anything more than that?
stupid whore, you have the nerve to talk to me, you stupid queen of dump studying of your idiotic propaganda, idiotic, sad copy/paster. copy paste is your whole pathetic, PASSIVE life, you passive b1tch.
Hej Ivana prostitute, so you think normal for Ioannina to be included in bulgarian maps, but no actual historical or archeological evidence at all? hej bitch?
HA HA HA this Ioan whore thinks that if she writes a book, showing maps of Bahlgariah from Mongolia to Spain, and if this book gets published, then it automatically makes the claims of the book valid....
ha ha ha, i wonder why God Almighty has permitted such creatures to be born.
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Post by insomniac on Apr 27, 2010 1:57:12 GMT -5
This map pretty much corresponds to the "original" ethnic identities in Balkans.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 27, 2010 2:11:14 GMT -5
This map pretty much corresponds to the "original" ethnic identities in Balkans. Serbian ruler, Stefan Nemanja, together with Fridrih Barbarosa passed through Pirot and was enthusiastically welcomed by its citizens. dictionary.sensagent.com/pirot/en-en/Also, i dont see an albanian majority in neither Vranje nor Leskovac... Unless by original, you mean pre-500 AD, so in this case the map should only show Greeks and no other ethnicity at all.
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Post by insomniac on Apr 27, 2010 2:54:08 GMT -5
I'm not sure about those. Nish i know was previously Albanian-populated.
and Novi Pazar (Yeni Bazar).
no comment as recently as 100 years ago
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 27, 2010 2:59:28 GMT -5
I'm not sure about those. Nish i know was previously Albanian-populated. in this 4-dimensional universe of ours, or another one?
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Apr 27, 2010 3:49:47 GMT -5
Insomniac that MAP is wrong, there didn't included Albanians of Struga,Kercova,Dibra,Prespma also Albanians of Cameria.
Nish, Albanians were not majority but were huge miniority there.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 27, 2010 4:00:49 GMT -5
Ok, we leave you guys (Croats/Bulgars/Albanians) to decide (design) which map you consider "accurate" as you please. ;D ;D
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 27, 2010 5:55:48 GMT -5
"I'm not sure about those. Nish i know was previously Albanian-populated." fark, so now its supposed to be Albanian ....and even the Bulgars claim it as theirs Two mentality similar people (Albanians and Bulgars)
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