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Post by Patrinos on Jan 13, 2010 6:36:34 GMT -5
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 13, 2010 12:00:00 GMT -5
Well...all in all I would say there is no difference between Greece- and Cyprus-Greeks. There might be some types that look somewhat strange (Christofias for example) but most of them look typical Greek. This circumstance could prove that modern Greeks look a lot like the ancient Greeks as well. Because Cyprus was not the home of proto- Greeks but (just like Asia Minor) colonized by Greeks. Cyprus is a little Asia Minor...the only asian place that is still inhabitted by great number of Greeks. The people on Cyprus are simply descendants of Greek colonists. And as you said...both European Greece and Cyprus went through a more or less different history. Yet both people look a lot alike (or lets better say their physical majorities do). How is that? Of course there might have taken place many migrations from mainland Greece to Cyprus in the course of time but nevertheless....the third one for example is such a hypertypical Greek looking person. This physical parallele cant happen by chance...it must be an indicator.
There are also much darker Cypriots of course...but there are also dark Greece-Greeks. Especially the ones from Pontus.
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 13, 2010 13:11:59 GMT -5
Yes i agree, the majority of Greece's Greeks look like the majority of the Greek Cypriots. And as far i know Cyprus communication with mainland Greece was never strong, they had more connections with the Minor Asia Greeks, but still the presence of Greeks there was major and continous since the Greek colonization, started by the Myceneans!! In the middle Ages, Armenian and Maronite people migrated to Cyprus and they are still distinct communites, since all three are very close to their dogmas and intermarriages are very rare. I've read somewhere that the majority of the Turk Cypriots(the old ones not the colonizers) are Maronites converts and in lesser extent Greeks and Armenians. We have many Cypriot students in Patra and the non Greek faces among them are present but not common at all. Its logical to have influences from other people and just like Greece's Greeks, who had other balkanian influences, in physical appearance are minority. Look how the two last guys who are half Lebanese, how different and distinct they look, and Lebanon is right next to Cyprus! I wouldn't classify Christofias something else than Greek, even if he look like a fox...that how they call him in Cyprus...
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 13, 2010 13:33:34 GMT -5
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 13, 2010 13:56:58 GMT -5
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 13, 2010 13:58:35 GMT -5
he's a commie too... ;D...you can find similar looking Greeks in Epiros too...
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 13, 2010 15:19:36 GMT -5
Epirotes have softer features...to souloupi tou miazei ipirotiko alla ochi i fatsa, ta charaktiristika. Also his curly hair (the way he has it) is common among Jews.
I find the women you posted show very well the levantine impact on Cypriots. Especially the first one. I regard this to be look that is inherited from the people of the Phoenician coast. Dont forget Cyprus was originally Phoenician colonized, too. I think Larnaka was founded by Phoenicians...or another important city, I dont remember anymore.
Kliridis reminds me of my grandfather from Asia Minor...similar type...with the bald, the pale blue eyes..the mouth region. Mine did just have more dominant eyebrows (still coloured dark and striking since the few hairs were white)..
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jan 15, 2010 7:10:56 GMT -5
Christofias face is IMO 100% ancient greek and this type can be found in Crete as well, while of course in Epirus not in a 1,000,000.
Also it is funny how you guys try to connect cyprus with near east (Livanos, etc..) when Cypriots speak the cleanest and richer form of Greek language. (Same with Crete of course).
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 15, 2010 11:06:53 GMT -5
Pyrros do us a favour and stay away from such topics. Thats a place of scientific comments (we are at least trying to be scientific). Means you can only mistakenly have clicked on that forum. You are confusing things once again. This is about anthropologia..
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Post by Kastorianos on Jan 15, 2010 11:11:10 GMT -5
Further comments of you that will be trying to discuss my comment going off topic will lead to the deletion of that comment. Adieu.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 17, 2010 14:34:01 GMT -5
I agree that the topic is one of physical anthropology (and should stick to that) and not of politics, linguistics or other unrelated fields and yes I agree that from anthropological sphere that there is a clear near eastern element (appearance wise) present to some extent among Cypriots.
Now weather this presence is there perhaps arrived via Minoan influence (on many levels similar to Egyptians racially and culturally) among early Greeks who mixed with them or through Egyptian and Levantine (ex Phoenician) influences is a subject of debate (my bet would be Phoenician influence also).
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 17, 2010 15:29:04 GMT -5
Yes even thought the majority of Greek Cypriots look like Greece Greeks the percentage of the non Greek looks may be present due to the substratum of the island before the massive Greek colonization in the Mycenean age, the "Eteocypriots" as they call them, probably of the pre indoeuropean group of local people who were called by Greeks as "Pelasgoi".
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Post by Patrinos on Jan 20, 2010 13:09:22 GMT -5
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Post by hellboy87 on Jan 26, 2010 1:02:58 GMT -5
in the first post by patrinos,I notice,the most of the men have similar foreheads and brows.
as for the British Greek Cypriots,I some of them may have British blood.But many look European Mediterranean and a few look Middle Easteern.
But overall,most Greek Cypriots in all these pictures here look European Mediterranean.
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