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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 19, 2010 18:59:59 GMT -5
I have noticed a deep Balkan (or as I say Greek ;D ) female voice and it appears to be easily noticeable in places like Greece, Albania, Montenegro, Serbia, Bulgaria and even outside like south Italy etc. As personalities they appear as strong females. Some Celtic looking females also seem to display similar quality in terms of deep voice. Some samples can be heard from songs bellow from balkan and non-balkan female singers BalkanJosipa Lisac (Croatia, Zagreb) Severina Vuckovic (Croatia, Dalmatia) Doris Dragovic (Montenegrin in Croatia) Seka Aleksic - Aspirin spot (Bosnian Serb) dzin i limunada Maya (Bosnian) Goga Sekulic 2008 - Kazaljke (Montenegrin) Maja Marijana (Bosnian Serb) Ljilljiana Petrovic Buttler (Serbian Gypsy) Dafina Zeqiri (Albanian) Anelia (Bulgarian) Extra Nina (Bulgarian) Karolina Goceva ('Macedonian') Deana Nikolovska ('Macedonian') Elena Risteska ('Macedonian') Andra (Romania) Elena Gheorghe (Romania - Romanian and Macedo-Romanian) Cristina Rus (Romania, Cluj Napoca) Kaiti Garbi - (Greek, Athens, Sarakstani or mountain Greek looking) Anna Vissi (Cypriot–Greek) Helena Paparizou - Greece (Parents - Central Greece) Thanos Petrelis - Elli Kokkinou (Greece, Athens) Natasa Theodoridou (Greece, Thessaloniki) Ajda Pekkan (Turkey, Istambul) Sertab Erener (Turkey, Istambul) -------- Greek - Non-Balkan (geographically)Madonna (Italian American) Lady Gaga (Italian American) Pietra Montecorvino (Italy, Napoli) Sher (father Armenian/mother Cherokee, English and French) ------- Iberian? or unidentifiedLula Pena (Portugal) Chavela Vargas (Costa Rican=Spaniard?) Jeanne Moreau (French) -------- Celts?Anastacia (Irish/German)(Balkan/Celtic cross?) Fiona Apple (part Irish) Bonnie Raitt (part Scottish) Stevie Nicks (WASP/Irish?) Sarah Jane Morris (English) Pink ( Irish / Jewish / German / Lithuanian ) Lisa Stansfield (English)
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 19, 2010 19:04:42 GMT -5
feel free to post others that I have omitted from Albania, FYROM, Bulgaria, Turkey and elsewhere. There is too many ;D ;D
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Post by Nikola on Feb 19, 2010 21:20:27 GMT -5
Balkan women can sometimes look somewhat masculine too, with strong jaw lines.
But to be honest, I king of prefer Balkan women because of that. I'm not saying I like a manly voice, they still sound like women, but they sound like strong and authoritative women.
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Post by Nikola on Feb 19, 2010 21:27:48 GMT -5
And Balkan men can sound quite manly too. Check out Milan Stankovic. Undoubtedly he is a homosexual and girly looking but check out how deep his voice is.
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Post by jonleka on Feb 21, 2010 1:25:49 GMT -5
Balkanoid thinking again very predictable lol.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Mar 3, 2010 16:14:22 GMT -5
Update: Added more samples from different parts of Balkans and elsewhere.
Observation: There might be an additional voice color I have called Iberian (perhaps Phoenician derived or more probable Celto-Iberian?). Celtic voice color is akin to Balkan voice color. As far as Balkans goes east Balkans appears to show more higher tones then the rest (perhaps either the roman or mongoloid/e.european influences) and I have noticed this among males also. Montenegro shows perhaps the deepest quality along with Bosnian Serbs, Serbians, 'Macedonians', Greeks and some Albanians (while some others show clear high pitched mongoloid/indian influence in voice) - again same for males.
Example is latter is bellow
Conclusion: The deeper color of the voice appears across 'Greek spectrum' or areas where Greeks have colonized/influenced which include Balkans, Turkey and south Italy (not to be confused with Celtic regions in western Europe)
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Post by tsompanos on Mar 3, 2010 21:49:35 GMT -5
Ah heres one with a strong voice and one of the best singers of Greece ever had, and heres a song since its soon mars 25th ΤΟ ΤΡΑΓΟΥΔΙ ΤΟΥ ΜΩΡΙΑ -- Σοφία Βέμπο
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Post by Nikola on Mar 4, 2010 1:46:05 GMT -5
Conclusion: The deeper color of the voice appears across 'Greek spectrum' or areas where Greeks have colonized/influenced which include Balkans, Turkey and south Italy (not to be confused with Celtic regions in western Europe) How do you explain Brazilian women of (most likely) Portugese ancestry? They sound even more manly than Balkan women. Mulher Melancia Velocidade 6
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Mar 4, 2010 12:55:27 GMT -5
I also posted those in edited post above and I stated that perhaps it is Phoenician or more likely Cello-Iberian influence (perhaps even Moorish influence).
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Mar 4, 2010 13:58:24 GMT -5
Now you got me analyzing Lebanese/Tunisian female singers (for Phoenicians who would have come to Spain via Cartage or modern Tunisa) and Moroccan/Algerian for Moorish/Berber influences. Observations: Tunisian singers all pretty much have higher pitched voices. Lebanese have somewhat lower (clearly in Balkan direction) but some (also Syrian, Egyptian etc) have higher voices which appear more typically 'Arabic' then not (almost Mongoloid like). Several Algerian singers sound very mongoloid like or very high pitched. One Moroccan Berber singer had a very similar voice quality (and even appearance somewhat) to those Portuguese. Diana Haddad (lebanon) Nawal Al Zoghbi (lebanon) (her 'puffy' cheeks show arabic influence) Elissar Zakaria Khoury (Lebanon) Najat Aatabou (Moroccan Berber) Conclusion: It seems to exclude Phoenician influence in voice (assuming modern Lebanese is not influenced by Greeks which is not the case) in even Tunisia and much less in Spain. Some Berbers show similarity in voice and appearance to the Portuguese and perhaps represent the connection (also judging by the bodies I could not exclude the African influence which could also explain the voice) . Update: I just saw you wrote Brazilian and that easily means (especially in her case since I saw some pics and there is a clear African influence in dance, body type and her focus on her behind on just about every picture).
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Post by Nikola on Mar 4, 2010 17:14:11 GMT -5
Actually, I have changed my mind. There are plenty of northern European women who also have deep voices and have nothing to with south eastern European genes.
Kathleen Turner is one example that immediately comes to mind.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Mar 4, 2010 20:29:24 GMT -5
I never said that that every European derived female with deep voice is balkan influenced but that second such influence is without doubt what appears to be celtic derived and Kathleen Turner is a perfect example of a celtic looking female as well as her voice. Turner's great-grandfather was a Methodist missionary (Methodists are derived from Anglicans).
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on May 16, 2010 10:58:08 GMT -5
Orianthi Panagaris (Australian Greek)
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jun 1, 2010 12:00:15 GMT -5
ROMAN VOICEThere is also another voice quality that I call Roman which is also higher pitched but it is very smooth (versus Asian high pitched voice whether Mongoloid or Indian which sound to me very acoustically unpleasing). I can not be sure as to why such voice exists and is it fusion between African and Asian voice or mutated higher pitched variant of the African voice due to its smoothness. (*Romans also display Asian like features such as cunning behavior but on what appears to be more refined, intelligent and thus more advanced scale with a witty twist). SABRINA SALERNO - BOYS - SUMMERTIME LOVE Samantha Fox - Touch Me Poison - Unskinny Bop (2004 Digital Remaster) Jovan Perisic - Moje Najmilije What appears to be mixed Roman-Balkanoid voice Ploutarxos - Enas Theos Almost pure Roman voice in one of its most refined versions (while mainly pure Balkanoid serious behavior is displayed) Thanos Petrelis - Elli Kokkinou - Adiaforos Him=Roman voice (with minor balknoid influence), Her=Pure Balkanoid voice to kalokairi - peggy zina (Balkanoid-Roman cross, more Roman) Sabrina-Agori Mou (mainly Roman voice with minor Balkanoid influence) Dragana Mirkovic Her: Roman voice, Him: Mainly Balkanoid voice PS: The Albanian ones posted strangely enough clearly do not sing in what I call Roman voice but in what appears to be full blown asian.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jun 1, 2010 12:01:34 GMT -5
By Asian I mean Mongoloid race and bellow are samples of such voice. Many Indians also display similar voice quality. Traditional Chinese and Indian female singers appear to sing in high pitched voice which appears popular in those cultures. Tibetan Song Uighur Song Yi Chinese Folk Songs even instruments Chinese use in music often mimics high pitched voice ---------- What I find add is that this voice seems most present among Albanians in the Balkans (with Romania coming close second I would say). Xinxilushe - Albanian Folk Song Merita Halili - Potpuri
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Post by vanilo on Jul 22, 2010 4:12:57 GMT -5
There are plenty of northern European women who also have deep voices I don't know about Norwegian and Swedish women but Danish women speak in a very harsh/rough manner which makes them sound very, very masculine - even though they don't necessarily have masculine/deep voices. I think it's a bit embarrassing for a woman to have a masculine voice, and/or talk harshly. I've been told I sound like those dolls you press and they start talking, especially when I laugh, lol - I take that as a compliment! At least they sound feminine... I don't like squeeky voices either...but I'd rather have that than a deep voice.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Aug 8, 2010 15:11:40 GMT -5
My voice is not very deep, quite deep or mid deep maybe? People love it when I speak on the phone and they say that my voice is very sexy, yet when I speak face to face it isn't so (my opinion). Also it depends on the language used, if I speak in Turkish in London, so many people tell me it sounds so sexy and exotic, when I speak English they say I sound cold and like I love myself!! LOL there are lots of different variables that effect the voice. Sometimes I do different accents, Russian, Jamaican, Irish and each one changes my voice and I get various different opinions on it.
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Post by vanilo on Aug 9, 2010 11:12:42 GMT -5
Desire, Do you speak Turkish with a proper Turkish accent? My Turkish friends here speak VERY differently from the Turks in Turkey...I don't know the right word to describe it...more rough?
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Aug 9, 2010 11:27:00 GMT -5
I speak 2 types of Turkish, with my mum I speak with the Cypriot dialect, a slang version of Turkish and a lot more humorous. Speaking with my dad i try to speak standard Turkish, closer to Istanbul Turkish, my grandmother RIP used to speak like a tv newsreader, so perfect in pronunciation and intonation, I picked up a lot from her.
The Turks that went to Europe mainly went from villages, and the village accent can be throaty rough and spoken very fast, lol I met a women from a village in Bolu the other day, I understood one out of every 10 words, when I asked my dad what is she saying, my dad said just smile and nod.. I don't understand too! LOL
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Post by vanilo on Aug 9, 2010 11:35:07 GMT -5
I should see if I can find anything on YouTube of people speaking Turkish with the Cypriot accent, I've never heard that before . lol! ;D. Hmmm, what about the Turkish other Turkic people speak? I know quite a few Iraqi Turkmen, for instance, who say they don't completely understand TURKISH Turkish...how about the other way around? Would you understand a Turkman? Or an Uzbek? I listened to an Uzbek song a while ago, and I could only pick up one or two Turkish words - whereas when I listen to TURKISH Turkish I understand quite a lot.
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