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Post by Pavel Chernev on May 23, 2010 9:48:59 GMT -5
Geographically they can be considered as a part of Europe - but their mentality seems more suited towards Asia and the Middle East - What do you think?
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Post by mystery on May 23, 2010 9:51:47 GMT -5
Geographically they can be considered as a part of Europe - but their mentality seems more suited towards Asia and the Middle East - What do you think? coming from a Bulgarian whose ancestors came from Mongolia, Iran and central Asia....
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Post by king on May 23, 2010 9:52:50 GMT -5
I voted yes because a)they are located in Europe and b)they are white...islam makes them less european but there are also catholic albanians...
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Post by Pavel Chernev on May 23, 2010 9:53:53 GMT -5
Bulgaria is the heart of Europe, my friend.
The Bulgarian nation, one of the oldest in Europe.
So please, your petty insults do not bother me.
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Post by Pavel Chernev on May 23, 2010 9:58:24 GMT -5
I voted yes because a)they are located in Europe and b)they are white...islam makes them less european but there are also catholic albanians... I see what you say, it is a reasonable assumption. However the Albanian workers that I employ on my farm are very much of Middle-Eastern appearance. They seem disconnected from European complexion! But it's not so much their color but behavior. The family-feuds that are prevalent in Albanian society are much derived from Saudi-Arab social norms. No where else in Europe does such barbarism still take place.
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Post by Pavel Chernev on May 23, 2010 10:00:19 GMT -5
Witness the horror,
This is European?
Noooooo!!!
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Post by ivo on May 23, 2010 10:22:27 GMT -5
Mongolia!? Don't be stupid and educate yourself. Iran, not necessarily, but the Sarmatian/Irannic origin of the Bulgars is the most popular theory at the moment.
I also voted yes simply because there isn't anything all that significant to suggest otherwise. The non-European influences are due to the Ottoman Empire, and many such influences can be observed in other Balkan nations.
Pavel Chernev is a clone user of Parasites.
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Post by shqiptars on May 23, 2010 10:22:51 GMT -5
If Europe means being put in the same boat as practically all "civilizations" to arise in western Europe then I don't see Serbs as European. Serbs are the children of the noble Slavs and the civilized Byzantines. Serbs have no place associating themselves with barbarians. I would say that Shqiptars certainly have a place with western Europeans. That is, of course, if Shqiptars weren't lazy and uncultured parasites.
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Post by king on May 23, 2010 12:07:04 GMT -5
I voted yes because a)they are located in Europe and b)they are white...islam makes them less european but there are also catholic albanians... I see what you say, it is a reasonable assumption. However the Albanian workers that I employ on my farm are very much of Middle-Eastern appearance. They seem disconnected from European complexion! But it's not so much their color but behavior. The family-feuds that are prevalent in Albanian society are much derived from Saudi-Arab social norms. No where else in Europe does such barbarism still take place. Balkan Neighbours tend to portray Albanians as Middle Eastern Looking or even Gypsy, Pakistani etc.. But infact Albanians are predominantly dinaric and genetically close to other european populations en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Albanians#Genetic_studiesi agree their tribal backward culture makes them less civilized and european... they are more prone to crime and killing...and islam is uneuropean religion.... but if they blend in european culture they cannot be distinguished from others, alot of albanians are atheist or even catholic and get educated in the west.... like jim belluci who is fully european-american
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Post by insomniac on May 23, 2010 12:30:31 GMT -5
Q) What do you call a serb with an IQ of 15? A) Gifted.
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Post by tyreke on May 23, 2010 13:07:32 GMT -5
I voted no because Albanians i see around my city act like guido Arabs
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Post by Username on May 23, 2010 15:31:18 GMT -5
this.thread.fails
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Post by shqiptars on May 24, 2010 2:14:59 GMT -5
Q) What do you call a serb with an IQ of 15? A) Gifted. By Shqiptar standards, sure.
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 24, 2010 3:15:55 GMT -5
"Mongolia!? Don't be stupid and educate yourself. Iran, not necessarily, but the Sarmatian/Irannic origin of the Bulgars is the most popular theory at the moment."
Mystery is not wrong!. The Bulgars are a Turkic tribe that are related to mongolians!.
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Post by ulf on May 24, 2010 6:33:20 GMT -5
I see what you say, it is a reasonable assumption. However the Albanian workers that I employ on my farm are very much of Middle-Eastern appearance. They seem disconnected from European complexion! But it's not so much their color but behavior. The family-feuds that are prevalent in Albanian society are much derived from Saudi-Arab social norms. No where else in Europe does such barbarism still take place. Balkan Neighbours tend to portray Albanians as Middle Eastern Looking or even Gypsy, Pakistani etc.. But infact Albanians are predominantly dinaric and genetically close to other european populations en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Origin_of_the_Albanians#Genetic_studiesi agree their tribal backward culture makes them less civilized and european... they are more prone to crime and killing...and islam is uneuropean religion.... but if they blend in european culture they cannot be distinguished from others, alot of albanians are atheist or even catholic and get educated in the west.... like jim belluci who is fully european-american I see they got very high % of E haplogroup, so I checked out and found its origins are Eastern African, which really didn't surprised me at all, so this is why I voted "No"
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on May 24, 2010 6:52:56 GMT -5
Bulgaria is the heart of Europe, my friend. The Bulgarian nation, one of the oldest in Europe. So please, your petty insults do not bother me. And still its poor as shit. what does that help you?
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on May 24, 2010 7:28:36 GMT -5
Of course Albanians are European.
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Post by srbobran on May 24, 2010 10:56:11 GMT -5
Yes, they are.
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Post by dusko1 on May 24, 2010 14:05:42 GMT -5
Yes they're European but they have great influence from Turks which most consider them non-European.
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Post by thracian08 on May 24, 2010 15:05:02 GMT -5
King, your comments don't make sense. Christianity, Judasim and Islam are all religions from the Middle East, NOT Europe. So Albanian being Muslim has nothing to do with their ethnic origin. Any people can be of any religion.
Their language is indo-European classification, thus, they are Europeans.
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