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Post by kapetan on Sept 12, 2008 15:58:03 GMT -5
A former Canadian soldier has done a dramatic legal flip-flop and pleaded guilty to breaking into a neighbour's home and sexually assaulting a 13-year-old girl at knifepoint.
Roger Borsch, 36, was given three years in prison this morning under a joint-recommendation between Crown and defence lawyers. He was given double-time credit for six months already served, plus an additional two years behind bars.
Borsch had previously gone to trial and made national headlines when he was found not criminally responsible after becoming the first soldier successfully use post-traumatic stress disorder as a defence for his crimes.
He didn't dispute the facts of the case but was found not guilty of the 2004 attack for reasons of a mental disorder.
Queen's Bench Justice Nathan Nurgitz agreed with Borsch's claims that his mind had been affected by horrific killings he said he witnessed a decade earlier in Bosnia.
The Crown appealed, and Manitoba's highest court agreed last year to overturn the verdict and order a new trial. Borsch then tried to appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada but was rejected.
Borsch told court at trial he was haunted by the horrors of what he witnessed during a 1994 peacekeeping mission when he attacked the girl a decade later.
He claims to have personally killed five people, including a Serbian soldier he caught raping an eight-year-old girl. Doctors who testified in his defence claimed Borsch may have been "acting out" what he'd witnessed.
The Crown argued at trial that Borsch has given different versions of his story to psychiatrists over the years. And he said the military has no written records of the events, which Borsch has said also include the death of a young Bosnian girl who came upon a landmine at a military checkpoint.
Nurgitz's decision to clear him of criminal wrongdoing sparked debate and reaction across the country, including several former soldiers who questioned Borsch's war stories.
Borsch was spared jail in exchange for a trip to a mental health facility, where he spent a few months getting treatment until his release in December 2006 when a provincial review board determined he didn't pose a risk to the public. He had been free in the community ever since.
The Crown had planned to call several of those soldiers had the case gone to trial again. Defence lawyer Greg Brodsky said today his client now admits some of the incidents he recounted may simply be a product of the PTSD he was suffering and didn't actually occur.
At the time of the assault, Borsch was working as a jail guard in The Pas.
Borsch claimed to be in a catatonic-like state when he broke into the a co-worker's home in the middle of the night, taped her teen daughter's mouth shut and then attacked her at knifepoint. The girl eventually managed to free herself and scream for help.
Borsch testified he only remembered waking up hours later in a canoe with no paddles on the Saskatchewan River.
LMFAO^
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Post by theblackswans on Sept 12, 2008 21:37:26 GMT -5
Dirty cetnik child rapists who like to rape there own children and any others they can get there hands on... A part of the cetnik culture as well as glorifying losing battles and getting occupied for 500 years like it was a good thing!!
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Post by radovic on Sept 12, 2008 21:42:14 GMT -5
^ And Muslims in Bosnia love to marry their cousins and lvoe to glorify battles they lost and which they were massacred like it's a good thing.
Your criticism of Chetniks seenms increasing to apply to all in Bosnia.
Oh yes, byu the way I hope you know that the vast majority of convictions in the hague for rape occured to non-Serbs.
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Post by radovic on Sept 12, 2008 21:47:45 GMT -5
Borsch told court at trial he was haunted by the horrors of what he witnessed during a 1994 peacekeeping mission when he attacked the girl a decade later.He claims to have personally killed five people, including a Serbian soldier he caught raping an eight-year-old girl. Doctors who testified in his defence claimed Borsch may have been "acting out" what he'd witnessed.The Crown argued at trial that Borsch has given different versions of his story to psychiatrists over the years. And he said the military has no written records of the events, which Borsch has said also include the death of a young Bosnian girl who came upon a landmine at a military checkpoint. Just like how the claim of 30,000 rapes turned in the end to be around 300. This is a common argument caused by all idiots who do something horrific. Try to blame it on something horrific they saw that may or may not have happenned. Anyways. Given that the Canadian government keeps track of what it's soldiers do, I don't by his story.
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Post by theblackswans on Sept 12, 2008 21:51:44 GMT -5
^ And Muslims in Bosnia love to marry their cousins and lvoe to glorify battles they lost and which they were massacred like it's a good thing. Your criticism of Chetniks seenms increasing to apply to all in Bosnia. Oh yes, byu the way I hope you know that the vast majority of convictions in the hague for rape occured to non-Serbs. Of course you retard, because the best crimes they could stick against Croats and Bosniaks is rape and they didn't even bother to bring rape charges against the cetniks (because they had a phone book of worst crimes they committed). There are so many instances of people like the Lukic's who committed mass murder and genocide and the evidence so overwhelming that they didn't bother with a petty rape charge in their cases you ignorant bastard.
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Post by radovic on Sept 12, 2008 22:13:22 GMT -5
^ Yet the ICJ ruled only one act of genocide took place in all of Bosnia -- i.e. Srebrenica.
If you actually look at the indictments, almost everyone charged with genocide had the charges drops and they were replaced with the broad category -- "crimes against humanity."
Oh, by the way, Bosniaks and Croats have been charged with far worst things then rape. So please, go back and read the verdicts and charges.
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Post by kapetan on Sept 12, 2008 22:27:41 GMT -5
^ And Muslims in Bosnia love to marry their cousins and lvoe to glorify battles they lost and which they were massacred like it's a good thing.Your criticism of Chetniks seenms increasing to apply to all in Bosnia. Oh yes, byu the way I hope you know that the vast majority of convictions in the hague for rape occured to non-Serbs. ??
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Post by markosijekira on Sept 12, 2008 23:23:35 GMT -5
"three years "
a man rapes a child, and gets only 3 years??? wow Man, his story is BS, shit he witnessed my ass, shit our people witnessed for years, by his logic ex yu would be a haven of pedophiles.
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Post by kapetan on Sept 12, 2008 23:28:29 GMT -5
Yea North America has HORRIBLE laws and punishment for pedofiles and even rapists as a whole.
They should do em Iran style and just shoot or hang them.
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Post by markosijekira on Sept 12, 2008 23:48:35 GMT -5
^ but if they catch a guy with a kilo of reefer, they slap him a 10 year sentence
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Post by SKORIC on Sept 13, 2008 2:18:41 GMT -5
Dirty cetnik child rapists who like to rape there own children and any others they can get there hands on... A part of the cetnik culture as well as glorifying losing battles and getting occupied for 500 years like it was a good thing!! Stop talking sh1t.
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Post by ccccnjegoscccc on Sept 13, 2008 3:27:48 GMT -5
No, the good thing was seeing the faces of 8000 rats right before we sent them 6 feet under in Srebrenica.
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Post by bosanskinovi on Sept 13, 2008 3:34:18 GMT -5
This guy was probably a mental case to begin with, but I understand how seeing what he saw (the Serb raping the eight year old) can fuck a guy up.
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Post by fazlinho on Sept 13, 2008 5:14:54 GMT -5
Chetniks will never cease to amaze me... 8 years old...sick
Actually, in real history, not in serbstory, which are 2 completely different things, even in the Ottoman empire the Caliph had to issue a fatwa for Bosniaks to make it islamically lawful for them to freely mix in public places with other people, as they never married inter-familiarly.
And I think you confused Bosniaks with Serbs about the glorifying battles they lost part.
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Post by theblackswans on Sept 13, 2008 9:01:29 GMT -5
Yea North America has HORRIBLE laws and punishment for pedofiles and even rapists as a whole. They should do em Iran style and just shoot or hang them. True, the laws on child rapists should be much tougher. Also I highly doubt his story of seeing a cetnik rape an 8 year old girl. It sounds like BS as well as UN forces weren't allowed into hot zones were these things were happening typically. I think he's just making an excuse for his crimes. He sounds like Hillary dodgin sniper fire in Sarajevo in late 1996.
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Post by karabin on Sept 13, 2008 11:54:26 GMT -5
Dirty cetnik child rapists who like to rape there own children and any others they can get there hands on... A part of the cetnik culture as well as glorifying losing battles and getting occupied for 500 years like it was a good thing!! ATTENTION: We got ourselves a hardcore BALIJA here. A part of a BALIJA culture is to kill unarmed soldiers and when slaped for that, cry out about some war crimes. Part of BALIJA culture is also to rape and once again when caught red handed cry out about war crimes. Fuckheads like yourself make me not regret Srebrenica. There is only one way for dickheads like yourself and that is under the knife. As far as this story goes, well just blame it on serbs. Anyone buying his shit is a complete RETARD. Oh ok so now I can go rape a woman and claim that my experiences as a child during the BiH war are to blame. Seriously junkies get a life.
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Post by kapetan on Sept 13, 2008 11:57:53 GMT -5
No, the good thing was seeing the faces of 8000 rats right before we sent them 6 feet under in Srebrenica. and a harcore genocidal cetnik in his own words funny how you can't insult peoples moms on here but you can brag about genocide lmao
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Post by Zvone on Sept 13, 2008 11:58:37 GMT -5
Alright, how the fuck is theblackswans an instigator and deucaon isn't?
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Post by fazlinho on Sept 13, 2008 12:02:16 GMT -5
Dirty cetnik child rapists who like to rape there own children and any others they can get there hands on... A part of the cetnik culture as well as glorifying losing battles and getting occupied for 500 years like it was a good thing!! ATTENTION: We got ourselves a hardcore BALIJA here. A part of a BALIJA culture is to kill unarmed soldiers and when slaped for that, cry out about some war crimes. Part of BALIJA culture is also to rape and once again when caught red handed cry out about war crimes. f**kheads like yourself make me not regret Srebrenica. There is only one way for dickheads like yourself and that is under the knife. As far as this story goes, well just blame it on serbs. Anyone buying his s**t is a complete RETARD. Oh ok so now I can go rape a woman and claim that my experiences as a child during the BiH war are to blame. Seriously junkies get a life. from another topic It is alright to pump yourselves with videos. It is a natural procedure. I too when I was younger used to pump myself with war footage from BiH. Stirred up alot of hatred in me. Seen quite many videos depicting war crimes against bosnian serbs and muslims. You guys will grow out of it, especially once you become tired of all the hatred that these videos bring up in an individual. If you are a relaxed person, I wonder how do you behave when you hate someone
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Post by kapetan on Sept 13, 2008 12:13:00 GMT -5
Alright, how the f**k is theblackswans an instigator and deucaon isn't? He's a Serb they are holy people, and a mod so it's all ok! Constantly edits posts he doesnt like and simply just says "trolling" when theres nothing of the sort. In real life I must say, I'd love to beat the shit out of him with a bag of hammers.
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