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Post by meltdown711 on Oct 7, 2008 11:06:39 GMT -5
Clan (or Fis in Alb) continue to a far lesser extent in the mountains of the north because development was hampered by the mountains. In the south clans fell out a long time ago because of settlement into plains and eventually into more urban environments. The same happened in Kosova but there the clans were retained more in surnames. Clans were also more difficult to preserve in south Albania and Kosova because there Ottoman rule was stronger then in the north, where they lived in virtual independence from the Ottoman Empire. The laws in the north continued to be clan laws.
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libofsha
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Post by libofsha on Oct 7, 2008 11:25:42 GMT -5
The responses that all the Albos here gave about their tribal system(at least in some regions of Albania) just show their inferiority complexes and lack self-awareness.
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Patrinos
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Post by Patrinos on Oct 7, 2008 11:32:12 GMT -5
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Post by kapetan on Oct 7, 2008 11:37:42 GMT -5
Watch your mouth kid, this place is public and everyone can read your idiocies, even kids...
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Post by gysi on Oct 7, 2008 11:47:47 GMT -5
I cant recall if bajraktart were ever paid or taxed any1 but they were supposed to be wealthier than the norm .
In the beginning (whenever that was) there was a man and a woman they had sex and made lots of babies. The eldest son usually becomes leader.I'm not gonna go further cause its a waste of time. This went on everywhere and still does even in "civilized" counties (kings etj).
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libofsha
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Post by libofsha on Oct 7, 2008 11:55:00 GMT -5
Try to keep the discussion civilized...
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Post by tsompanos on Oct 7, 2008 12:34:39 GMT -5
You too...
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Post by rusebg on Oct 7, 2008 13:29:48 GMT -5
Sorry Ruse, but I have to edit your post too...
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Post by adolfmussolini on Oct 7, 2008 14:55:14 GMT -5
lol I actually like the Shkodra dialect(thats what you're speaking right? ) no disrespect to Shkodra, the city was after all very important to the Communist revolution ;D I just dont think we should represent ourselves as tribesmen in front of Greeks, Patrinos could ask the same question to Arvanites, he probably knows 1 or 5000 of them why doesn't he ask them the same question? lol the only people i know of in greece that lived in clans are the maniots they left plenty of towers around in mani to , dunno about arvanites though i dont think they lived that way www.mani.org.gr/en/history/history_mani.htmthanks for the link, very interesting ;D
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Post by adolfmussolini on Oct 7, 2008 14:55:45 GMT -5
The responses that all the Albos here gave about their tribal system(at least in some regions of Albania) just show their inferiority complexes and lack self-awareness. And in Greece of course there were Hellenic groups that followed this way of life. Tsompanos' reference to Maniots is absolutely right. Less strictly clan system had the Sarakatsanis,but it was more like a...tsoban partnership moving in request of better places for their herds...Maybe during in one of these "requests" one of them established in Patra area and became my grand-grand father... ;D...but unfortunately I'm not 100%sure yet. Let's not open up a can of warms...
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Post by benzino on Oct 7, 2008 17:07:52 GMT -5
yes we do,we have our own territories and if outsiders step in we shoot down and eat them,we are cannibals,the keyboard that im using is local made from stones! ;D ;D ggagagagagagagaga
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Post by Teuta1975 on Oct 7, 2008 18:58:59 GMT -5
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Post by kapetan on Oct 7, 2008 19:18:33 GMT -5
I think that^ meant she also sleeps with one eye open.
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Post by panagiotopoulos on Oct 8, 2008 8:26:07 GMT -5
What a funny thread!!!!
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Post by kapetan on Oct 8, 2008 9:41:34 GMT -5
Jesus..alotof editing in this thread..cant even say a curse word.
Imsure alot of 9 yearolds are reading this being shocked right now.
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Rhezus
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Post by Rhezus on Oct 8, 2008 10:53:24 GMT -5
Albquietman, don't give a chance.. treat and answer everyone accordingly. That's the right medicine, dont you think.
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