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Post by radovic on Jan 9, 2009 12:27:58 GMT -5
Hungary: Gunman kills school principal, teacher January 07, 2009 5:48 PM BUDAPEST, Hungary-Police say a masked gunman has shot to death the principal and a teacher at a school in the Budapest neighborhood of Csepel.
Budapest Police spokesman Endre Kormos says the unidentified gunman also shot a security guard in the hand in Wednesday evening's attack.
Kormos says the gunman fled the school after the shootings and there is no information yet on the motive for the attack. A reward of 5 million forints ($25,300, euro18,600) has been offered for information leading to the capture of the assailant.
The two male victims were shot in the head.
Csepel is located on the northern tip of a large island in the Danube River and during the communist regime it was the hub of Budapest's heavy industry.
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Post by yeni on Jan 9, 2009 12:59:15 GMT -5
www.caboodle.hu/nc/news/news_archive/single_page/article/11/recording_in/?cHash=4b3c5f478eRecording indicates security guard killed schoolmasters By: Hungary Around the Clock 2009-01-09 08:01 Sacked security guard Tamás K. and former school deputy finance officer Gábor Deme were detained on Thursday on suspicion of the murders on the previous evening of Csepel primary school headmaster József Takács also a former deputy mayor of Csepel and deputy principal László Papp. K. had been sacked from the school earlier in the day for embezzling Ft 3-4 million from school funds. K.'s suspected accomplice had also been dismissed the same morning. According to information currently available, K. shot the two victims in the head and then shot himself in the hand to create the impression that he had also been attacked. K. then notified the police. Deme then removed a server that stored digital video recordings made with closed-circuit cameras at the school and later claimed that he had thrown the device into the Danube, but as a 20cm-thick ice sheet currently covers the river, this seems unfeasible. Unbeknownst to the assailants, however, a recording device in Papp's pocket had recorded the whole incident. Budapest Police anti-crime department head József Keszthelyi and department deputy head Zsolt Bodnár told reporters on Thursday that, according to the sound recording, the discussion between the four had proceeded calmly, and had even appeared to strike a conciliatory tone towards the end of the conversation, before K. suddenly shot Takács in the head. Another three shots were heard 30 seconds later, followed by one more. Keszthelyi and Bodnár said later that K. had injured himself with a pistol. K., who has previous convictions of document forgery and fraud, has so far refused to make a confession, however. At the time of his murder Takács was deputy head of the Socialists Csepel chapter. Murder suspect Deme is a member of the local Socialist chapter. However initial evidence does not suggest that the crimes had a political dimension. If convicted the suspects could receive life prison sentences. "We have never heard of such a cold blooded brutal murder," Keszthelyi said. The security guard K. did not have a gun license and in the eyes of the law should not have been working as a security guard, Népszava observes.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 9, 2009 14:24:45 GMT -5
terrible crime, Magyarorszag isn't Serbia and Romania where these types of things happen almost on a daily basis
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Post by lvl100 on Jan 10, 2009 1:15:24 GMT -5
terrible crime, Magyarorszag isn't Serbia and Romania where these types of things happen almost on a daily basis Neah , school shoot outs are in their own league. Congratulations you are catching up with Americans. Even if its about about the firearms violence and number of dead bodies in schools not economics
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 10, 2009 15:05:15 GMT -5
"Neah , school shoot outs are in their own league. Congratulations you are catching up with Americans." Crime Statistics > Murders committed by youths (most recent) by country VIEW DATA: Totals Bar Graph Pie Chart Map Showing latest available data. Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom) #24 Romania: 169 #46 Hungary: 41 actually you gypsies are closer to the Americans....corrupt criminal culture breeds ignorant backward criminals and romania is right up there with countries that have 4x the population. here from your beloved nationmaster www.nationmaster.com/country/ro-romania/cri-crime - 43k lol....stupid tigan
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Post by lvl100 on Jan 11, 2009 2:05:25 GMT -5
Thank you very much for the statistics. As usually your quotes incriminates you more than proving your point. From that page : - at a few categories Romania has indeed a higher place. But whats interesting is that Hungary is almost always just a few ranks below. Considering that Romania is more than double size as Hungary, the statics shows that if Hungary would have the same population and territory as Romania, it would be ranked higher (than .ro ) on criminality list - also there other categories where the Hungary is more high ranked in criminality than Romania , like Robbery (lol lol gypsy lol lol gypsy, cigany lol lol tigan lol),Prison overloading, etc. But lets draw the line , shall we ? And the big prize goes to little Hungary for the overral criminality Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country #26 Hungary: 420,782 #30 Romania: 312,204 So a country who is much smaller than Romania, has a significant more overall criminality. So who is the "gypsy" here biatch ?
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 11, 2009 11:20:55 GMT -5
" Hungary is almost always just a few ranks below."
lol...do you call #24 to #46 just a few ranks below, you're right in between such marvelous countries like Uzbekistan and Bulgaria...soon you might even catch up to your Albanian brethren who are at #5
Now I thought we're talking about schools and youth crime? here you go changing the subject again in true "gypsy" fashion
"Prison overloading, etc."
#32 Romania: 48,075 prisoners #54 Hungary: 17,862 prisoners
Are you dyslexic too...? and this stat. doesn't include Romanians who are locked up in western European prisons which you gypsies constitute the majority lol
Actually my quotes don't incriminate me ...ROMAnia leads in VIOLENT CRIME....in all categories
Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country
#26 Hungary: 420,782 #30 Romania: 312,204
If you'd research a little more...you'd find the majority of the crimes in Hungary are petty and car thefts....which are a characteristic all of all urban, western well developed countries. There are NO cars in ROMAnia to steal...unless you consider donkey carts cars....lol backward third world country.
"Thank you very much for the statistics."
you're welcome cigany
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Post by lvl100 on Jan 11, 2009 16:25:53 GMT -5
lol...do you call #24 to #46 just a few ranks below, Considering that the number of the countries in the world is somewhere around 200, 20 places in ranking means nothing. Especially where Hungary its more than half smaller than Romania. So you should have a more less than us. Have any source for that ? Oh wait, better not. In good old szorostalpu fashion, you will give a link that actually will show that Hungarians are the more in western prisons or something similar. Are you sure, your not an undercover agent working from inside to undermine the Hungarians ? Robbery its not petty. School shoot outs are definitely not petty. And crime is a crime. It speaks a lot about the overall mentality regardless of its nature. Leaving aside your frustrated rants , there are some interestingly enough facts here too. Funny thing , although the statistics for cars/inhabitants index are close (170-ro ; 250-hu comparing to Germany 600 lol;) it seems while the Romanians are just getting started, its the end of the road for Hungarians. The annual statistics for new car registrations in 2008 made by ACEA (European automobile manufacturers association) : Romania - 309,869 Hungary - 163,125 But lets collaborate this with the cars registrations trend for Hungary from Euromonitor : 2005 2006 2007 2008 239.72 203.08 195.61 175.54 Two completly different sources and the numbers are almost identical. But thats not the point , the point is that it seems while everyone around is booming , Hungary ( who is light years away from western markets saturation, so this cant be an excuse ) its constantly declining. But dont mind me,please remain in your fantasy universe populated by 5000 old hungarians ,Saint Stephen deeds and diplomats from 1700 and where Hungary always wins.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 11, 2009 20:29:08 GMT -5
"And crime is a crime."
So according to your very limited gypsy mentallity...murder and rape is the same as car theft. lol...the inner workings of the mind of a typically indoctrinated ROMA-nian raised in a criminally oriented culture.
"while the Romanians are just getting started"
At what? So donkey carts are now being registered as new motor vehicles.
Hahahaha...tigan prost give it up
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Post by lvl100 on Jan 12, 2009 2:33:49 GMT -5
the inner workings of the mind of a typically indoctrinated ROMA-nian raised in a criminally oriented culture. Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country #26 Hungary: 420,782 #30 Romania: 312,204 Holly cow 74% more crimes in a country half as Romania. If you were the size of Romania you would probably had 1 milion in the rank. Talking about criminally oriented culture Judging by the statistics above,not by frustratied rants, in 1 or 2 years donkey carts prices will sky rocket in Hungary. Buy one now while they are cheap, later you will need a bank loan. I know statistics doesnt look good for you. At all. But i see your methods are still working : go in your "safe place" , repeat 200 times cigany and all your problems will disappear !
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 13, 2009 17:00:44 GMT -5
violent crime such as murder and rape. ...which Roumania is a leader is a characteristic of a backward criminally oriented culture with low morals. "a crime is a crime" lol
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Post by lvl100 on Jan 14, 2009 2:06:15 GMT -5
violent crime such as murder and rape. ...which Roumania is a leader is a characteristic of a backward criminally oriented culture with low morals. "a crime is a crime" lol And you say that on a topic specifically created for the pinnacle of violent crimes, a Hungarian school shoot out. Cunning. Very cunning.
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Post by Dragos Voda on Jan 14, 2009 9:43:07 GMT -5
GOOOOOALLL!!!
lvl100: 1 Szorstalpu: 0
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 14, 2009 17:02:27 GMT -5
Crime Statistics > Murders committed by youths per capita (most recent) by country
#21 Moldova: 7.7
#35 Romania: 2.3
#48 Hungary: 1.4
Crime Statistics > Rapes (most recent) by country
#30 Romania: 1,253
#42 Hungary: 598
"GOOOOOALLL!!!
lol......this says it all... hahahahaha! stupid tigani
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Post by Dragos Voda on Jan 14, 2009 20:13:05 GMT -5
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Post by lvl100 on Jan 15, 2009 2:56:22 GMT -5
You poor thing , you are shooting in your own leg again. Romania`a population is 2.25 times bigger .(22,246,862/9,930,915) So if i take randomly any of your statistics (any statics in that Hungary its not already higher ranked that is), lets say Crime Statistics > Rapes (most recent) by country #30 Romania: 1,253 #42 Hungary: 598 But if we check what would happened if Hungary`s population would be equal and stop comparing apples with oranges (and big countries with pocket size countries) : # 2x Hungary 598 x 2.25 = 1345# 30 Romania 1253 You actually have more criminal mentality than us , its just that your limited by the small population to be ranked much higher Indeed , your statistics were most helpful as always ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Later edit : Thanks Dragos. Holly chit , 19th place on firearm violence ? Is it this enough violent for you, or is still petty Talking about criminal mentality ROFLMAO
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 15, 2009 23:56:16 GMT -5
"Holly chit" BATMAN
"Romania: not on the list "
# 2x Hungary 598 x 2.25 = 1345
# 30 Romania 1253
hahahaha, what frustration....only from the minds of indoctrinated garbage. Because its not listed means it doesn't exist?? and then doubling Hungary's crime??? Your right you can't compare apples with "rotten oranges".
Romania`a population is 2.25 times bigger
Too bad that 21 million in that pathetic artificial multi-ethnic monstrosity called roumania is not all roma-nian. Subtract about 5 million ethnic minorities = 16 million. add the 3.5 million Hungarians in neighboring countries to the 10 million in Hungary = 13.5 million....So you can take your doubling of statistics and shove them up the ass of the w**re that bore you.
the Austrian government plans to build a prison in Romania and deport Romanian criminals immediately to their home country. ."
It is also considered as a way to deal with a 50 percent increase in the number of Romanian crime suspects in Austria last year. The Romanian government, which is also talking to Italy about setting up a similar agreement, has welcomed the idea. The social reintegration of criminals would be easier if they served their time close to relatives, Romanian Justice Minister Rodica Stanoiu said.
""Talking about criminal mentality ROFLMAO ""
the truth is upsetting, isn't it? You see all Europeans view you gypsy roma-nians as criminals. Take a hike you swarthy wannabe latins.
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Post by lvl100 on Jan 16, 2009 3:27:54 GMT -5
Because its not listed means it doesn't exist?? Of course it exists, is just to insignificant to be in the main top. As opposite to Hungary, who`s firearm violence granted one of the main prizes. Yes you cant. Exactly how you cant equally compare a big country with a small pocket size one. But that doesn't matter anyway , the small country is leading already in many categories ( any other kids murdered in schools lately ? ) Well at least we are not 49% and have dreams about owning all. Sounds familiar ? Fascinating example. Extracting , out of the ass numbers from the local population, adding other from overseas You forgot to add the unborn children Sorry to break it down to ya , but the statistics are for countries . NOT for ethnics, minorities , overseas refugees , slovakians, Galactic confederation etc etc Sure it is. If I were you I would hate to know that my small pocket size country leads in crime even comparing to much bigger countries.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Jan 16, 2009 8:50:56 GMT -5
how you return...like clockwork to defend your miserable culture and country, it is quite amusing. "Of course it exists, is just to insignificant to be in the main top. As opposite to Hungary, who`s firearm violence granted one of the main prizes. "any other kids murdered in schools lately ? ) " It seems you can't comprehend the content of this article..."Hungary: Gunman kills school principal, teacher " there were No students involved. Where as this stat..... Murders committed by youths (most recent) by country "#24 Romania: 169 " yeah I guess this is "insignficant" and has nothing to do with schools, murderous roma-nian children don't attend school...right? "overseas refugees , slovakians, Galactic confederation etc etc ""Extracting , out of the ass numbers from the local population, adding other from overseas " I didn't realize you consider the 3.5 million Hungarians living in "Historical Hungarian" territories right across the border as ...."overseas refugees slovakians, Galactic confederation." Not very bright when it comes to real geography or history are you? Your level of expertise is fantasy and star wars, right? "the Hungarian minority of about 1.7 million--estimated by some Western experts at 2-2.5 million--represents 7.8 percent of the total population and is the largest national minority in Europe. " Dobruja was an ethnic melting pot, where in the 1980s the Romanian component was estimated at less than 50 percent; it also had large representations of Bulgarians, Tatars, Russians, and Turks. countrystudies.us/romania/40.htm - 13k - No one knows for sure the exact number of Roma people in Romania. Biased government statistics place the figure as low as 500,000, whereas European Union demographics estimate the Roma population at 1.5 million. The problem of accuracy is further exacerbated as Roma activists agree on a figure of two million to 2.5 million. www.lausanneworldpulse.com/urban.php/840/10-2007 - 11k - revealing what a corrupt, biased and criminally oriented cuture your ROMA-nia is...is quite upsetting for you, isn't it? "You forgot to add the unborn children" It seems you should have been the one...giving birth to, then abandoning the mentally challenged is a crime...your mother should be prosecuted, if she could be found.
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Post by lvl100 on Jan 16, 2009 10:38:06 GMT -5
there were No students involved. Not this time Say what ? Oh sorry , i didn`t payed attention, i was too busy wondering how a small country like Hungary can be in so many categories above much bigger countries, including overall crimes. Nope sorry , Gun violence-homicide grand prize its already taken by Hungary I dont consider them in any way as long as they have no relevancy in your example directly concerning our statistics. The statistics were made considering countries and their populations. I know you still live in your atemporal bubble , but neither NationMaster nor other country statistics are not made considering King Stephen borders from 1001 AD LOL yeah, this is my favorite sentence : estimated by some experts I mean you cant argue with such argument While, even Marko Bella , the leader of the Hungarian party in .ro, keeps talking about 1,6 mil. But anyway, whats the connection between NationMaster statistics and the world wide Hungarians ? Very interesting, but again what a region having 4% from all Romania`s population, has to do with our statistics ? And it doesnt matter to much anyway, most of them are in Europe now They had ran out of "some experts assume" statistics ? Not really. We know we have some problems, but when we see countries twice smaller than us who are leading in most of the crimes categories, we also know that it can be worst, alot worst. So the gypsy fetish and the Oedipian complex are somehow related , or you just have multiple personalities ?
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