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Post by kapetan on Aug 9, 2008 1:42:23 GMT -5
Its quite ironic that Russia who branded itself as a protector of international law in the case of Kosovo would now not respect that same international law in reference to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia. Hypocrisy at its finest. You idiot, the US don't support Serbias integrity but they support Georgias integrity, what, you don't see the obvious hypocricsy here or are you just one eyed and stupid? And in the same way, Russia supports Serbia's but not Georgia's and on top of that they're the one actualy trying to TAKE the land. One upping America. If we're being fair about hypocrasies here.
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Post by Novus Dis on Aug 9, 2008 1:42:50 GMT -5
^ If Georgia really wanted Russia to respect its territorial integrity then firing upon Russian troops and Russ civilians is not something they should have done.
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Post by kapetan on Aug 9, 2008 1:44:07 GMT -5
Anyway Georgia was probly planning to get some kind of help or pity if their initial blitz didn't work, which obviosly it didn't.
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Post by Novus Dis on Aug 9, 2008 1:47:24 GMT -5
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Post by markosijekira on Aug 9, 2008 1:52:47 GMT -5
Did the Georgian government seriously think, that the US or EU would come to its aid militarily? Giving Georgians weapons and training is one thing, risking open war with Russia over a tiny country is quite something else, and it’s not going to happen.
I assume they must have known Russia would attack if they try taking South Ossetia by force, or they may have expected Russia to back down in light of the Olympics? I don’t get it
I think Russia will halt the counter offensive as soon as they have finished pusshing all georgian troops out of south Ossetia. The Georgians will leave a ruined province in their wake and countless dead civilians, all for nothing.
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Post by Novus Dis on Aug 9, 2008 1:57:12 GMT -5
Did the Georgian government seriously think, that the US or EU would come to its aid militarily? Giving Georgians weapons and training is one thing, risking open war with Russia over a tiny country is quite something else, and it’s not going to happen. Second Time As Farce.
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Post by kapetan on Aug 9, 2008 2:02:34 GMT -5
I'm curious as to how Serbs can whine so long about respecting countries teritorial integrities, and show Russia as an example of this, and now they're supporting rebels in Georgia LOL.
Chopping up Georgia isn't going to hurt Kosovo or anyone but mostly Georgia.
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Post by markosijekira on Aug 9, 2008 2:03:49 GMT -5
Also I think that Russia will use this war as a perfect opportunity to demonstrate the revived capabilities of the Russian army, as its still trying to wash away the embarrassment of the first Chechen war so I except that the Georgian forces inside south Ossetia are being pressed hard. . From reports its seems that Russian heavy artillery has already forced the Georgian artillery to evacuate their positions and the Georgian air force (made up of a few dozen soviet era fighters and ground attack Plaines as well as over 50 Hind Gunship’s) has suffer sever damage on the ground through air strikes. Russia will definalty not back down from this, it would damge them worse then the flak they are taking now.
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Post by markosijekira on Aug 9, 2008 2:07:29 GMT -5
"Saakashvili, whose country is pushing to join NATO, said the conflict "is not about Georgia anymore. It's about America, its values."
"I ... thought that America stands up for those freedom-loving nations and supports them. That's what America is all about. That's why we look with hope at every American," the U.S.-educated president said."
He really said that?? Good god, the man has lost it.
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Post by Fender on Aug 9, 2008 2:09:00 GMT -5
I'm curious as to how Serbs can whine so long about respecting countries teritorial integrities, and show Russia as an example of this, and now they're supporting rebels in Georgia LOL. Chopping up Georgia isn't going to hurt Kosovo or anyone but mostly Georgia. I'm curious as to how you fail to see US hypocrisy.
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Post by Novus Dis on Aug 9, 2008 2:10:17 GMT -5
I'm curious as to how Serbs can whine so long about respecting countries teritorial integrities, and show Russia as an example of this, and now they're supporting rebels in Georgia LOL. Chopping up Georgia isn't going to hurt Kosovo or anyone but mostly Georgia. Whine? We're not Muslims, amigo. Anyway, I (nor other Serbs from what I gather) support the Ossetians. Also I think that Russia will use this war as a perfect opportunity to demonstrate the revived capabilities of the Russian army, as its still trying to wash away the embarrassment of the first Chechen war so I except that the Georgian forces inside south Ossetia are being pressed hard. . From reports its seems that Russian heavy artillery has already forced the Georgian artillery to evacuate their positions and the Georgian air force (made up of a few dozen soviet era fighters and ground attack Plaines as well as over 50 Hind Gunship’s) has suffer sever damage on the ground through air strikes. Russia will definalty not back down from this, it would damge them worse then the flak they are taking now. Though Russia has already shown what it can do during the second Chechen war, I agree with you.
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Post by Pejoni on Aug 9, 2008 2:27:46 GMT -5
Its quite ironic that Russia who branded itself as a protector of international law in the case of Kosovo would now not respect that same international law in reference to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Georgia. Hypocrisy at its finest. You idiot, the US don't support Serbias integrity but they support Georgias integrity, what, you don't see the obvious hypocricsy here or are you just one eyed and stupid? Georgians didnt tried to ethnic cleanse south ossetians, and secondly Kosova was never part of Serbia but Yugoslavia.
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Post by Fender on Aug 9, 2008 2:37:59 GMT -5
You idiot, the US don't support Serbias integrity but they support Georgias integrity, what, you don't see the obvious hypocricsy here or are you just one eyed and stupid? Georgians didnt tried to ethnic cleanse south ossetians, and secondly Kosova was never part of Serbia but Yugoslavia. Yes they did, read the news report long enough and you might extract your foot from your mouth, AGAIN.
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Post by Fender on Aug 9, 2008 2:40:51 GMT -5
One things for sure, this will stop all new recognitions of Kosovo on its tracks.
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Post by Novus Dis on Aug 9, 2008 2:52:25 GMT -5
Georgians didnt tried to ethnic cleanse south ossetians, and secondly Kosova was never part of Serbia but Yugoslavia. 1. Serbs never tried to ethnically cleanse Albanians. 2. Kosovo was ALWAYS apart of Serbia. Kosovo is in fact a Serbian word.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Aug 9, 2008 3:04:08 GMT -5
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Post by kapetan on Aug 9, 2008 3:10:04 GMT -5
yea and you're not admitting the hipocrasy of russia which is even greater.
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Post by Novus Dis on Aug 9, 2008 3:16:27 GMT -5
yea and you're not admitting the hipocrasy of russia which is even greater. There is no hypocrisy. The Russian peacekeepers in Georgia are no more illegal then the UN ones in Bosnia. As far as war is concerned, it was Georgia that was bombing Ossetian cities and Russian garrisons. Russia has full right to fight Georgia.
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Post by Pejoni on Aug 9, 2008 3:19:53 GMT -5
Georgians didnt tried to ethnic cleanse south ossetians, and secondly Kosova was never part of Serbia but Yugoslavia. Yes they did, read the news report long enough and you might extract your foot from your mouth, AGAIN. It was ossetians who ethnic cleansed the majority Georgians from that region with help from Russia.
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Post by Pejoni on Aug 9, 2008 3:20:17 GMT -5
One things for sure, this will stop all new recognitions of Kosovo on its tracks. MUHAHAHAHA
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