SuperAlbanian
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Post by SuperAlbanian on Jul 16, 2008 15:49:30 GMT -5
I've just discovered how amazing it is to be able to speak the Serbian language! It is like no other! Once you can speak Serbian, you can now suddenly speak Slovenian, Croatian, Bosnian, Macedonian and guess what!?! Yes even Montenigrin!!! When I went to Montenegro this woman randomly said something to me in " Montonegrin " and I said to her in English " Sorry I don't speak Serbian" She pulled up a big frown and said to me " nooo here is Montenigrin, No Serbian"
Amazing language I must say, despite all the bad things about Serbia and Serbs.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 16, 2008 16:24:33 GMT -5
Lmao yes it looks great on a resume!
But on the real, the truth is it's all just different dialects of Serbo-Croatian. Bosnian had it's own cyrillic alphabet called "bosancica" which was used before and during the Ottoman rule but no longer. But Bosnians then wrote in Arabic and even Persian when it suited them. And obviosly today there's a decent amount of words that come from Turkish. In Albanian too right?
But I think this quote says it best.
"Much significance has been made by Bosnian historians to the fact that writers in this period called their language "Bosnian". But what they meant by that was simply the language spoken in Bosnia, they were not suggesting it was seperate from the language spoken anywhere else.
Regional differences in Serbo-Croat were noticed of course, thus one Franciscan in the early 18th century said that the Bosnian language was different from Croatian, Dalmatian and Ragusan. And of all the varieties of Serbo-Croat, Bosnian had long been regarded as the best. In 1601 Mauro Orbini wrote: Out of all the Slav-speaking peoples, the Bosnians have the most smooth and elegant language.
The great 19th century Serbian writer Vuk Karadzic, also regarded the dialect of Central Herzegovina as representing the popular language in it's best and purest form" - Short History of Bosnia by Noel Malcolm
I should point when I watch Serbian news from belgrade or something I don't catch at least half of it. They really do have a completly different way of pronouncing some things. The accent is just totaly different to me. Or like "ekavski" they say "belo" we say "bijelo" for white.
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Post by vinjak on Jul 16, 2008 18:13:12 GMT -5
I should point when I watch Serbian news from belgrade or something I don't catch at least half of it.
Probably because they read the news so freakin quick LOL I have always complained at how quick the News readers talk if you get diverted even for a couple of Seconds you miss half an hour of what has happened. LOL
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Post by kapetan on Jul 16, 2008 18:57:16 GMT -5
I should point when I watch Serbian news from belgrade or something I don't catch at least half of it.Probably because they read the news so freakin quick LOL I have always complained at how quick the News readers talk if you get diverted even for a couple of Seconds you miss half an hour of what has happened. LOL That might be part of it But I've had people from Serbia around me here and I honestly don't catch alot of it. There really is alot of regional differences...even within serbia and bosnia itself. but unless im wrong albanian has two main dialects as well
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Post by vinjak on Jul 16, 2008 19:28:28 GMT -5
I really dont get it Kapetan are you fluent in Bosnian ? Regional differences yes but only few words in general you should be able to understand easily Appart from the million mile an hour Newsreaders..
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 16, 2008 20:00:44 GMT -5
I've just discovered how amazing it is to be able to speak the Serbian language! It is like no other! Once you can speak Serbian, you can now suddenly speak Slovenian, Croatian, Bosnian, Macedonian and guess what!?! Yes even Montenigrin!!! When I went to Montenegro this woman randomly said something to me in " Montonegrin " and I said to her in English " Sorry I don't speak Serbian" She pulled up a big frown and said to me " nooo here is Montenigrin, No Serbian" Amazing language I must say, despite all the bad things about Serbia and Serbs. There is no such thing as the Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian and Montenegrin language. There is only Ekavski (Serbia, Montenegro, Herzegovina and east Bosnia) and Ijekavski (rest of Bosnia, Krajina, Dalmatia and Croatia)... though Croatians have a strange word for bread (Kruh) among other things. I bet that girl you spoke to is no older then 20. "Serbian" = Hleb. "Bosnian" = Hljeb. "Croatian" = Kruh.
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Post by Zvone on Jul 16, 2008 20:11:17 GMT -5
It's kruh, you magnificent stud.
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Post by Zvone on Jul 16, 2008 20:23:45 GMT -5
Ah cuj, ti razumijes nesto malo...vidi, vidi.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 16, 2008 20:27:48 GMT -5
Ah cuj, ti razumijes nesto malo...vidi, vidi. Ma da.
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Post by markosijekira on Jul 16, 2008 23:03:55 GMT -5
"Out of all the Slav-speaking peoples, the Bosnians have the most smooth and elegant language" Bah èakavski all the way When I left the country during to war, Diaspora Bosnians and Serbs had a hard time understanding some words I said, and I had to endure jokes with no end about my funny way of talking. èakavski that is spoken in Primorsko-Goranska Županija where I’m from, had a lot of Italian words in it, just like there are a lot of Turkish words in Bosnia and Serbia (I had no clue what the devil a Èaršija was until like 8 years ago) eventually I adapted and did not speak in my dialect unless it was with someone else from my region. In my opinion all our dialects are great because the south Slavic language family is great!!!
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Post by kapetan on Jul 17, 2008 1:00:40 GMT -5
I really dont get it Kapetan are you fluent in Bosnian ? Regional differences yes but only few words in general you should be able to understand easily Appart from the million mile an hour Newsreaders.. Wtf is there not to get? I've been in Serbia and I'm from Bosnia. Serbians speak different. Not only words but HOW YOU SPEAK. thats what a "dialect" is. The quote i put from the book explained things perfectly theres nothing else really to probe. and btw we say "kruh" often too. but mostly as a curse. "jebem ti kruh". Lol i dont get why people are all suprised theres differences...bosnia, croatia and Serbia are, and for the better part of history have been different countries/kingdoms. different regions with different influences. I honestly don't feel much in common with Serbia or Serbians...if anything at all. Bosnian Serbs sure alot more, but not Serbia. And those who think there is some big connection or ...i dont know what else.. are just delusional andhaven't been to both places for a long enough time. when I went to vojvodina i might as well been in russia or some shit. different world.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 17, 2008 1:08:31 GMT -5
I dont speak the language(s) myself, but my 5 yrs old daughter has no problem understanding cartoons made in Zagreb or Belgrade.
Also Deucaon, where in Bosnia do they speak Ekavica? I think the 3 flavours of serbo-croatian are 1) Ekavica-Jekavica (HR-SR-BIH-MNE) 2) Kajkavica (Zagreb) 3) Torlak (Juzna Srbija-Sever Vardar)
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 17, 2008 1:13:15 GMT -5
Kapetan in Voivodina it would be a different world only if you hang around with Hungarians or Ukranians. My wife used to tell me that Bosanci are of better quality people than Srbianci. Better souls etc... Here in Greece she had the chance to meet many Srbianci and completely changed views. Now if someone if from east or south serbia, for her it is a signal of high probability of being a good person. But in the end all yugoslavs are astonishingly similar.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 17, 2008 1:22:06 GMT -5
Kapetan in Voivodina it would be a different world only if you hang around with Hungarians or Ukranians. My wife used to tell me that Bosanci are of better quality people than Srbianci. Better souls etc... Here in Greece she had the chance to meet many Srbianci and completely changed views. Now if someone if from east or south serbia, for her it is a signal of high probability of being a good person. But in the end all yugoslavs are astonishingly similar. No Pyrros, I was with Serbians. We knew them personaly. Trust me. Everything from climate, to speaking, to the look of people and enviorment. Completly different then the place I'm from. Mine had a more meditteranean feel to it in every sense from people to climate. Vojvodina felt like Romania or something, I felt alien. Trying to hard to find those simmilarities that aren't there will only result in what happend before. False sense of some kind of phony brotherhood. Because I don't feel any with anyone but Bosnians.
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Post by SKORIC on Jul 17, 2008 1:33:41 GMT -5
English is also amazing, you can speak english aswell as irish, north irish, scotish, welsh, american, canadian, australian, new zealand-ish, south african...the list goes on..
Spanish you are also speaking Mexican, Cuban, Chilean, Uraguan, Argentinian, Peruvian,Columbian and many other useless countries lol...
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Post by kapetan on Jul 17, 2008 1:35:20 GMT -5
Yea but people like the Welsh and Irish sometimes have such thick accent you can't understand shit, and half the words you've never heard of.
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Post by SKORIC on Jul 17, 2008 1:40:35 GMT -5
yeh Gaelic which is their old languange but they started speaking english after england took over im guessing...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 17, 2008 1:50:39 GMT -5
Kapetan in Voivodina it would be a different world only if you hang around with Hungarians or Ukranians. My wife used to tell me that Bosanci are of better quality people than Srbianci. Better souls etc... Here in Greece she had the chance to meet many Srbianci and completely changed views. Now if someone if from east or south serbia, for her it is a signal of high probability of being a good person. But in the end all yugoslavs are astonishingly similar. No Pyrros, I was with Serbians. We knew them personaly. Trust me. Everything from climate, to speaking, to the look of people and enviorment. Completly different then the place I'm from. Mine had a more meditteranean feel to it in every sense from people to climate. Vojvodina felt like Romania or something, I felt alien. Trying to hard to find those simmilarities that aren't there will only result in what happend before. False sense of some kind of phony brotherhood. Because I don't feel any with anyone but Bosnians. In the center of NoviSad, i agree it is far too northern european looking. But if you go to Bukovac i am sure you will not miss Bosnia As far the mediteranean feel of the weather in Bosnia, what can i say. Balkans (Greece excluded) is the coldest place in europe after Russia or Scandinavia. P.S. But kapetan in the end, we see what our eyes want to see.
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Post by terroreign on Jul 17, 2008 2:00:05 GMT -5
You sexy stud, Ekavski is only serbia, Ijekavski is Montenegro, Croatia and Bosnia, Ikavski is Dalmatia
And I speak Montenegrin, but can understand people from serbia and bosnia and croatia very well, although i can immediately tell where they're from
And they can immediately tell I'm from Montenegro when I say things like "Odje"
Montenegrin is Ijekavski, but its seperate from Croatian and Bosnian, being more "Hyper" ijekavski and "Harder" accent
So while Croats say for "where", "Gdje" (Pronounced Gdyey), while Montes say "Gdje/Dje" (Pronounced like english "Jay")
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Post by ljubomir on Jul 17, 2008 2:17:36 GMT -5
Where I'm from we say "Odje" and "Dje" etc etc too... But when someone asks me what I am speaking, it is and always will be Serbian...
It's like Americans stating that they speak American, when in actual fact they speak English... Just because there's a few different pronounciations etc, doesn't make it a whole seperate language.
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