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Post by terroreign on Jul 17, 2008 2:20:59 GMT -5
^That's because you're a traitor and I spit on you
About the americans, we Montenegrins were never a Serbian colony, so we call our language after our country.
And the serbian language was only standardized 100 years before ours, but our language itself could be older in Montenegro.
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Post by ljubomir on Jul 17, 2008 2:25:06 GMT -5
LOL... A Šiptar, claiming to be a Crnogorac, calling me a traitor... lol
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Post by ljubomir on Jul 17, 2008 2:26:41 GMT -5
And calm down with the spitting Internet warrior, you'll dirty your screen
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 17, 2008 2:30:53 GMT -5
Terro, can you find me a set (a pair, tripplet, etc...) of DIFFERENT european languages that resemble MORE to each other than HR-SR-MNE-BIH?
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Post by kapetan on Jul 17, 2008 2:33:48 GMT -5
No Pyrros, I was with Serbians. We knew them personaly. Trust me. Everything from climate, to speaking, to the look of people and enviorment. Completly different then the place I'm from. Mine had a more meditteranean feel to it in every sense from people to climate. Vojvodina felt like Romania or something, I felt alien. Trying to hard to find those simmilarities that aren't there will only result in what happend before. False sense of some kind of phony brotherhood. Because I don't feel any with anyone but Bosnians. In the center of NoviSad, i agree it is far too northern european looking. But if you go to Bukovac i am sure you will not miss Bosnia As far the mediteranean feel of the weather in Bosnia, what can i say. Balkans (Greece excluded) is the coldest place in europe after Russia or Scandinavia. P.S. But kapetan in the end, we see what our eyes want to see. Where I'm from it gets up to +45 in the summer. Herzegovina. I saw snow twice in my life, and each time it was so weird people ran outside in freakin t-shirts to have snowball fights Lol. As for "we see what our eyes want to see"...this is what im used to seeing Serbia reminds me of Bulgaria and Macedonia. That's a good comparison feel and look wise.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 17, 2008 2:37:15 GMT -5
Terro, can you find me a set (a pair, tripplet, etc...) of DIFFERENT european languages that resemble MORE to each other than HR-SR-MNE-BIH? what's so hard to understand about my first post which clearly explained it? people from bosnia and those who wrote there all called it bosnian cuz thats the area thats the people thats the dialect. it's more of an error to call them ALL serbian since they do have all these diferences, then it is to call them by region as people have always done. they even distuingihsed between "ragusan, bosnian, dalmatian" back then.
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Post by terroreign on Jul 17, 2008 2:45:44 GMT -5
You're the shiptar, you izdajnik
Back 100 years ago Montenegrin was as different from Serbian as Spanish is from Portugese
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Post by kapetan on Jul 17, 2008 2:58:26 GMT -5
Ok seriosly, if there's ever going to be any kind of co-existence in the Balkans, Serbia and Serbs and their supporters need to stop this s**t. Deal with reality. And reality is weather you think it's fake or not, weather you like it or not, all these other people have their own identity they feel is unique due to history, religion, region, language or whatever else. It's hard to reconcile when one group keeps denying even the existence of the others. Once everyone deals with the fact there is Bosnia-Herzegovina, Montenegro, Croatia and the rest, and that these people have their own rights and history and do not need to answer to anyone, maybe we can actualy move forward and solve some of these PRESENT political problems. Insted of blabbing endlessly about nationalistic theories from hundreds of years ago and who called who what. It's simply IRRELEVANT today. And quite frankly, kind of pathetic that we all do it. We can't seem to be proud of our countries history without trying to s**t on the other guys first. There is Bosniaks, there is Serbs, there is Croats, there is Montenegrins.
And Pyrros, I feel like you're constantly talking down to anyone who's not a Serb. Give some respect and you'll get some back, isn't that fair? You don't see me calling you Cigani or whatever else like some people. You're Greek, am I trying to take that?
And to answer your question German and Austrian German are obviosly very simmilar but with differences. And I'm not sure about Austro-Bavarian.
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Post by ljubomir on Jul 17, 2008 3:01:01 GMT -5
Страшно како човjек може да лупи!
How am I the traitor, when you and your fellow "ethnic Crnogorci" go against everything Crna Gora stood for??
Његош се сада у гробу окреће!!
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Post by Novus Dis on Jul 17, 2008 3:01:23 GMT -5
You sexy stud, Ekavski is only serbia, Ijekavski is Montenegro, Croatia and Bosnia, Ikavski is Dalmatia And I speak Montenegrin, but can understand people from serbia and bosnia and croatia very well, although i can immediately tell where they're from And they can immediately tell I'm from Montenegro when I say things like "Odje" Montenegrin is Ijekavski, but its seperate from Croatian and Bosnian, being more "Hyper" ijekavski and "Harder" accent So while Croats say for "where", "Gdje" (Pronounced Gdyey), while Montes say "Gdje/Dje" (Pronounced like english "Jay") I am yet to hear someone from Montenegro/Herzegovina speak Ijekavski. Unless you can convince me otherwise, I'm sticking with what I stated earlier.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 17, 2008 3:03:19 GMT -5
NOBODY'S A FUCKIN' TRAITOR JESUS CHRIST LMAO
Fuck you guys need some pussy I swear. RELAX!
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Post by ljubomir on Jul 17, 2008 3:07:24 GMT -5
lol @ kapetan... ok i will try relax, looks like you need to too
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 17, 2008 3:09:23 GMT -5
Kapetan i am not trying to say to you you are Serb. I am just saying that sacrificing friendship with your own kind due to political differences is not wise. Look at the products, they have descriptions in all 4 languages, and that is really funny cause sometimes its SRB/MNE and then BiH/HR, where in other cases it is just SRB/BiH and HR separately .... I mean those factories dont know what to do with ssoooo many languages...!!!
About austrian and bavarian languages, there is no Faculty of Austrian Languages studies. There is no Austrian language literature. There is Austrian literature written in German, or maybe in Austrian german.
Just quit this silly frenzy to differentiate from Serbs/Croats. I mean this gets very funny.
Dont justify the ones to wanted to divide you by claiming that your village is different from Voivodina, because it belongs to the 0.0000000001% of villages in BiH where the temperature is above -20 celcious in winter.
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Post by terroreign on Jul 17, 2008 3:12:27 GMT -5
Do you even know what is ijekavski? When someone says "Lepo" that's ekavski, when you say "Lijepo" that's ijekavski
Here from Wikipedia, for further "proof" you handsome stud
And govnomir - You and you're kind (Cigani) are the traitors because you betrayed everything that Crna Gora stood for, and you made your religion your ethnicity you're just a damn kreten.
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Post by kapetan on Jul 17, 2008 3:17:40 GMT -5
Kapetan i am not trying to say to you you are Serb. I am just saying that sacrificing friendship with your own kind due to political differences is not wise. Look at the products, they have descriptions in all 4 languages, and that is really funny cause sometimes its SRB/MNE and then BiH/HR, where in other cases it is just SRB or only HR.... About austrian and bavarian languages, there is no Faculty of Austrian Languages studies. There is no Austrian language literature. There is Austrian literature written in German, or maybe in Austrian german. Just quit this silly frenzy to differentiate from Serbs/Croats. I mean this gets very funny. My God you just don't get it. We. do. not. see. them. as. our. kind. and. they. don't. see. us. as. theirs. I don't care if some random hippies do. We don't, we never did. I don't know what your mission is here to try and unite the South Slavic speaking groups seriosly. Bosniaks and Serbs have different cultures and religions and traditions do you not understand that? You're litteraly trying to force me and all of mine to ditch the way we've always thought, and forcing on us some idea of kinship we never had and don't want. It's amazingly annoying man, you acting like you know more about my history and culture then me. This is like me trying to force you to love Albanians cuz you a tied history somewhat and you're close geographicly. Croats don't want it. Bosniaks don't want it. Nobody wants it. Those that do are the yugo-nostalgia minority. We split for a reason. And all of Herzegovina has Mediteranean climate genius LMAO. Those were pics of Trebinje and Mostar not villiges rofl I;ve never met a more stubborn person. Trying to now say Bosnia, Croatia and Serbia LOOK the same too.
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Post by ljubomir on Jul 17, 2008 3:19:13 GMT -5
hahahaha.... so that means the whole Petrovic Njegos Dynasty were traitors to Crna Gora too..
You're a clueless siptar, you don't have a clue what you're on about, only what was taught to you by your communist forefathers...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 17, 2008 3:36:33 GMT -5
No kapetan i do it for the sake of common sense. Cypriot greek and helladic greek are maybe more distinct, yet we consider it the same. And officially it is the same. I dont say you are Serbs (which is not unnatural by the way). I just say that when a 5 yrs old kid can speak and understand sooooo many languages that is a sign by itself. Dont wanna be Serbs? fine. Do you speak a different lang? of course not. simple logic.
and please lets stop arguing about common well in vivo truths.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 17, 2008 3:37:59 GMT -5
Deucan, where in BiH do they speak ekavica?
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Post by kapetan on Jul 17, 2008 3:42:07 GMT -5
No kapetan i do it for the sake of common sense. Cypriot greek and helladic greek are maybe more distinct, yet we consider it the same. And officially it is the same. I dont say you are Serbs (which is not unnatural by the way). I just say that when a 5 yrs old kid can speak and understand sooooo many languages that is a sign by itself. Dont wanna be Serbs? fine. Do you speak a different lang? of course not. simple logic. and please lets stop arguing about common well in vivo truths. Yea umm..might wonna see my first post with a direct quote from a very popular history book that explained it very well. and notice i never said aything about bosnian being a different "language". what you will see is me saying "the inhabitants of bosnia called it bosnian this is proven enough, it is a dialect of serbo-croat. bosnian, croatian and serbian are all recognized as languages so i dont really see what your problem is. and i never claimed you kept telling me Ima serb. i just dont get why a greek so passioantly sticks his nose into our histories....at least we all have a reason to discuss and argue....you don't. not to this point. I dont care who you married Lol.
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Post by markosijekira on Jul 17, 2008 3:52:45 GMT -5
"About austrian and bavarian languages, there is no Faculty of Austrian Languages studies. There is no Austrian language literature. There is Austrian literature written in German, or maybe in Austrian german"
Thats a fair point, i have been all over germany and the dialects are crazy. I'm fluent in Standard Hochdeutsch german, but I can not understand the Saxon dialect at all, and the Bavarian and Hessian, Thuringian, Swiss German to name but a few.
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