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Post by greek1234 on Jul 22, 2008 7:02:56 GMT -5
Greece has her very own Martial Art can Albania say the same? I don't think so. Have you heard of Pankration? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PankrationWe all know Greeks are also better soldiers. History has shown this! We have a true warrior culture!
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 22, 2008 7:20:22 GMT -5
Greece has her very own Martial Art can Albania say the same? I don't think so. Have you heard of Pankration? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PankrationWe all know Greeks are also better soldiers. History has shown this! We have a true warrior culture! dude what joke is that ;D, Box and Karate are most popular and difficult fighting sport. We all know Greeks are also better soldiers. History has shown this! We have a true warrior culture! hahahahahhahahahahahah hahahahahhahahahahahha Yeah it is reason why Albanians liberatet Modern Greece.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 22, 2008 7:45:07 GMT -5
Here are some real fighters unlike the no bodies Albania has to offer. No one can spot Albania on the map let alone the athletes.. hahahahahha oh man to compare greeks with Albanians is very very insult about us. Iron Mike Zambidis Michael Katsidis Stan the Man Longinidis
oh man are you kidding i dont talk about half-profesional category but Absolut Category...like that i can post alot Albanians. Azem Maksutaj is on Absolut Category (Heavyweight Category) and is most difficult category and he was champion several time.
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Post by greek1234 on Jul 22, 2008 8:04:52 GMT -5
These are world champions! When did Albania liberate Greece? Are you that stupid! Greece was the first nation in South East Europe to acquire her Independence. The Albanian state was formed im the 20th century so the Western European could create a puppet state. If it wasn' for us Greeks defeating the armies of Mussolini, Albanians would be still licking Italian Fascist balls! Not to mention if Nato and the Americans hadn't interupted the Serbs you would be a part of Serbia!
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 22, 2008 8:21:27 GMT -5
These are world champions! When did Albania liberate Greece? Are you that stupid! Greece was the first nation in South East Europe to acquire her Independence. The Albanian state was formed im the 20th century so the Western European could create a puppet state. If it wasn' for us Greeks defeating the armies of Mussolini, Albanians would be still licking Italian Fascist balls! Not to mention if Nato and the Americans hadn't interupted the Serbs you would be a part of Serbia! what world champion in lower category? are you kidding boy? you know very good how Albanians liberatet Greece (Marko Bocari and his compatriot) while your ancestor were living nomadic/slaves life in Asia Minor. Albanians from XIV Century until XIX historically did alot resistance in Greece (read: Greece)while greeks never did . Every historian/travels/emperos ect from XIII Century Albanians called the most brave and better soldiers in Byzantine and Othoman era...and we showed this in Skanderbeg era's, Tepelena's, Balsha's, Shpatas's, Bushatliu's, Dukagjini's ect. Here Albanians who did battle againt Turks in XIV Century in Greece...tell me where f**k were Greeks? www2.let.uu.nl/Solis/anpt/ejos/pdf2/W06.PDFread what say Byzantine Emperor abiut Albanians:
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 22, 2008 8:40:18 GMT -5
Let's see what sayid historian turks durink Skanderbeg time's:
"The Albanians, these tigers of mountain wars ... have as their religion rebellion. Even their worst warrior is one of the strongest and bravest on the battle-field, just as if he was a knight on the legendary horse. But he has no horse, nor proper weapons for battle. Instead of the horse, he has a lance which strikes as lightning, he has spears who's points are full of posion as the sting of hornets, he has also a wooden bow with some arrows. Furthermore, he is stronger than iron ... "
- Ibn Kemal, Historian of the Turkish court during Skanderbeg's war against the Turks.
"The Albanians have been born to resist and disobey."
- Dursam Bey, during the second siege of Kruja
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Post by greek1234 on Jul 22, 2008 8:50:38 GMT -5
What's this Albanian Propaganda? You are just Church burning savages that came out of no where and now are stealing other peoples history.
We don't need to steal other peoples history we have our own. The Greeks where the first successful nation to fight of the Nazi's, we defeated the Italians under Mussolini by ourselves, Winston Churchill wanted to give the Greeks air support against the Italians, but Ioannis Metaxas refused. We drove the invaders back over the border in a month. Look what real people say about us Greeks.
Adolph Hitler- “...For the sake of historical truth I must verify that only the Greeks, of all the adversaries who confronted us, fought with bold courage and highest disregard of death...”
Winston Churchill- “...The word heroism I am afraid does not render the least of those acts of self-sacrifice of the Greeks. If it were not for the bravery of the Greeks and their courage, the outcome of WW2 would be undetermined.”
Now go back to selling drugs and Albanian prostitutes!
And by the way the person you call 'Skanderberg' was half Greek and half Serb.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 22, 2008 9:06:40 GMT -5
what is propaganda joke for what are talking?
Greek 1234 tell me where were you durink Albanian resistance againt Othomans in Greece?...
it is reason why you claim to steal Alexander the Great (2400 years ago) because you in medvial era never had any hero or resistance.
The truth of capacity soldier were they who lived in Ancient and Medieval era and not modern era, today even kid can kill you if he has Ak-47.
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Post by libofsha on Jul 22, 2008 9:06:55 GMT -5
piss off mate, that hitler speech is taken out of context, you stood your ground when the germans were already depleted and retreating, and yes you fought, noone is denying that, but the germans were defetated by the yanks, the brits and the russians, greeks won a few peripheral skirmishes of no consequence on the war, you fvcking overstate everything, if you were so brave why the fvck couldn't you win your independence on your own?
hold back your fvcking toungue when you pop sheet off about albs before i rearrange your tanned, hairy,ape-like face, fagot!
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Post by greek1234 on Jul 22, 2008 9:17:16 GMT -5
We won our Independence on our own, the problem is you have been brainwashed by your ex communist government and have not idea of reality. My ancestors fought under the great Greek General Kolokotronis and Pappaflessas. We where the first Europeans to be free from Ottoman oppression. You Turkalbanians loved living under the Ottomans because you are Mohammedans and burn Christian Churches and Icons, you people are Barbarians that have destroyed everything that is civilized in South East Europe.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 22, 2008 9:19:11 GMT -5
what is out of context little prick? what the funk are you talking about? Greek1234 just replied with *evidence* to the baseless argument of Dardan. As far as WWII is concerned:
In early 1939, while the world was focused on Hitler's aggression against Czechoslovakia, the Italian dictator set his eyes on Albania, across the Adriatic from Italy. Italian forces invaded Albania on April 7, 1939 and despite some strong resistance, especially at Durrës, swiftly took control of the small country. Mussolini and Hitler. Mussolini and Hitler.
On 28 October 1940, Italy started the Greco-Italian War by launching an invasion of Greece from Albania. In part, the Italians attacked Greece because of the growing influence of Germany in the Balkans. Both Yugoslavia and Greece had governments friendly to Germany. Mussolini launched the invasion of Greece in haste after Romania, a state which he perceived as lying within the Italian sphere of influence, allied itself with Germany. The order to invade Greece was given by Mussolini to Badoglio and Roatta on October 15 with the expectation that the attack would commence with 12 days. Badoglio and Roatta were appalled given that, acting on his orders, they had demobilised 600,000 men three weeks prior.[5] Given the expected requirement of at least 20 divisions to facilitate success, the fact that only eight divisions were currently in Albania, and considering the inadequacies of the Albanian ports and connecting infrastructure, adequate preparation would require at least three months.[5] Nonetheless, D-day was set at dawn on October 28.
However, the war went badly for the Italians. The initial Italian offensive was quickly contained, and the Greek Commander-in-Chief, Lt Gen Papagos, was able to establish numerical superiority by mid-November,[6] prior to launching a counter-offensive that drove the Italians back into Albania. In addition, the Greeks were naturally adept at operating in mountainous terrain, while only with only six of the Italian Army's divisions, the Alpini, were trained and equipped for mountain warfare. Only when the Italians were able to establish numerical "parity" was the Greek offensive stopped. By then they had been able to penetrate deep into Albania.
The following passage aptly summarizes the episode from the perspective of both the brilliant Greek defence of their homeland and the ill-prepared Italian debacle:
No one can deny the victor's laurels to the Greek soldier. But under conditions like these one can only say that the Italian soldier had earned the martyr's crown a thousand times over.[7]
An Italian "Spring Offensive" in March, that tried to salvage the situation before the German intervention, amounted to little. The Italian Army was still bogged down in Albania by the Greeks and the Albanian resistance when the Germans invaded Greece. Crucially, the bulk of the Greek Army (fifteen divisions) was left deep in Albania, while the German attack approached.
After British troops arrived in Greece in March 1941, British bombers operating from Greek bases could reach the Romanian oil fields, vital to the German war effort. Hitler decided that he had to help the Italians and committed German troops to invade Greece via Yugoslavia (where a coup had deposed the German-friendly government).
On 6 April 1941 the Wehrmacht invasions of Yugoslavia (Operation 25) and Greece (Operation Marita) both started, while the Italians attacked Yugoslavia in Dalmatia and pushed the Greeks finally out of Albania. On 17 April Yugoslavia surrendered to the Germans and the Italians. On 30 April, Greece too surrendered to the Germans and Italians, and was divided into German, Italian and Bulgarian sectors. The invasions ended with a complete Axis victory in May when Crete fell. On May 3, during the triumphal parade in Athens to celebrate the Axis victory, Mussolini started to boast of an Italian Mare Nostrum in the Mediterranean sea.
Some 28 Italian divisions participated in the Balkan invasions. The coast of Yugoslavia was occupied by the Italian Army, while the rest of the country was divided between the Axis forces (an Italian puppet State of Croatia was created, under the sovereign of an Italian Savoia). The Italians assumed control of most of Greece with their 11th Army, while the Bulgarians occupied the northern provinces and the Germans the strategically most important areas. Italian troops would occupy parts of Greece and Yugoslavia until the Italian armistice with the Allies in September 1943.
In spring 1941 Italy created a Montenegrin client state and annexed most of the Dalmatian coast as Governatorato di Dalmazia. Yugoslavian partisans fought a guerrilla war against the occupying forces until 1945.
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In other words, whoever wanted entered albanimalia freely at will... fucking insects...
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 22, 2008 9:26:30 GMT -5
We won our Independence on our own, the problem is you have been brainwashed by your ex communist government and have not idea of reality. My ancestors fought under the great Greek General Kolokotronis and Pappaflessas. We where the first Europeans to be free from Ottoman oppression. You Turkalbanians loved living under the Ottomans because you are Mohammedans and burn Christian Churches and Icons, you people are Barbarians that have destroyed everything that is civilized in South East Europe. hahahahhahahah you won own Independence? which Independenc in Syria you are talking?...dude we are talking about modern Greece how Albanians liberatet that ignorance state.
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Post by libofsha on Jul 22, 2008 9:45:19 GMT -5
pyrros - arqidhja,
were you this passionate about the serb cause before you hit that serb pu$$y?
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Post by greek1234 on Jul 22, 2008 9:47:17 GMT -5
Go bend over at your mosque you filthy Islamic bastard. Real Syrians are Orthodox unlike you, you turban wearing church burning bastard. You make me sick with your disturbing propaganda. You Albanians and Skopjians need a pychological tests Bigtime! Albania recieved her Independence in the 20th century, they loved the Ottomans so much i wonder why?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 22, 2008 9:50:45 GMT -5
pyrros - arqidhja, were you this passionate about the serb cause before you hit that serb pu$$y? For everything there is a start. Would you be an alb if some gypsy (your dad) hadn't butt raped a vlach peasant woman (your mom) somewhere in what you call "albania"?
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Post by libofsha on Jul 22, 2008 9:53:57 GMT -5
hmmm father stavros has taught you well, how long did you spend with him in the confessional? did he rid you off your yearing desire for albanian kok?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 22, 2008 9:57:40 GMT -5
Haha you are a mistake.. your gypsy dad dint want too, but some of his useless sperm went down to your vlach mon wound, and it happened to have you breaking our balls today here... wow
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Post by libofsha on Jul 22, 2008 9:58:45 GMT -5
pyrros - arqidhja, were you this passionate about the serb cause before you hit that serb pu$$y? For everything there is a start. Would you be an alb if some gypsy (your dad) hadn't butt raped a vlach peasant woman (your mom) somewhere in what you call "albania"? hmmm...we call them minoritar but whatever, tell me, do you hate the fact that you were born a greek so much so that you decided to downgrade yourself to a slav? or was it a ploy to escape your inherent homosexuality?
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Post by libofsha on Jul 22, 2008 10:03:44 GMT -5
Haha you are a mistake.. your gypsy dad dint want too, but some of his useless sperm went down to your vlach mon wound, and it happened to have you breaking our balls today here... wow would you and your mother even consider a threesome with karadzic?
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Post by greek1234 on Jul 22, 2008 10:11:49 GMT -5
Why are you going off topic you smelly Albanian insect! Greeks and Serbs have been traditional Allies but you on the other hand are an axis of evil, you first came out of no where infiltrated old Greco - Serb lands then allied yourselves with the Islamic Ottomans. You people are a truly sick race you also helped the Nazis. Is it me or are you a ball licking nation full of church burners, rapists, thieves and other evil customs. You even sell your children to Pedophile Westerners just for some money.
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