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Post by Arthur Kane on Feb 3, 2009 15:30:56 GMT -5
I'm still waiting to see REAL science to back highduke's 'claims.' I looked at some of these words , an I'm no linguist ( Biology is my cup o' tea ) and I don't even know how he can make a strong probability claim of similarity with a lot of these words. Does anyone else see the ridiculousness of it?
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Post by highduke on Feb 3, 2009 15:47:03 GMT -5
Kane, your monolingual, cultureless a.ss got exposed as that of a monolingual liar by you trying to deny being monolingual on pg2 of donnie's 'Mountain of Giants' thread & then getting exposed as such by me. better go talk about 'ancap' & socialism with chechen amateurs lol that, you can handle lol you had your chances with me & f.ucked up both times
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Post by leshte on Feb 3, 2009 18:40:25 GMT -5
Highduke you still didn't respond how do u scientifically make a strong claim to the probability of the similarity of these words by chance. Even after you yourself changed some of them. Because from what I can see so far, the guy who spent 5 minutes googling those last names and found out they are from all over the world holds more merit statistically than you since his sample population is larger. There is a science called probability and statistics.
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Post by redbaron on Feb 3, 2009 18:54:49 GMT -5
I'd say Serbs are IE based on your list. But back to the topic: Im not basing Alb Chechen Origin on the identical surnames alone but on: identical surnames + hundreds of identical toponyms + linguistic cognates + scriptural commonalities + medieval documentation linking you to the Caucasus + its acceptance by two of your favorite contemporary albanologists. the last 3 you have yet to see but you will soon IE is not an ethnicity.In this thread you were able to connect Chechens to Albanians,using surnames similarities. Are the serbs Iranian? Hungarian?Greek? Polish? German? Italian? It should be easy to answer since it was so easy to do with the Albanian surnames.It doesn't matter how much you research. All the serb members of Yugoslavian Academy of Science have tried it decades before you were even born.And they failed.
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Post by leshte on Feb 3, 2009 18:57:07 GMT -5
Redbaron please do not use the term research when referring to whatever Highduke is doing. Call it by its real name, googling. It is demeaning to the scientific world.
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Post by highduke on Feb 3, 2009 20:29:44 GMT -5
Redbaron you idiot, I never implied IE was an ethnicity, just that the words you listed on pg3 were not coincidental. Secondly the hundreds of examples of shared surnames + toponyms + cognates are probably not all coincidental when factored together with the 11th cent. documentation & the merrit given to it by 2 famous albanologists that you have yet to see scanned copies of
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Post by leshte on Feb 3, 2009 21:14:14 GMT -5
HD it will take me 5 minutes to google hundreds of toponyms all over the world that are identical to the chechen ones, so are the surnames as it has been already shown to you .One can also google you plenty of cognates from other languages that are similar to chechen cognates. See if you had done any real scientific research at any point in your life you would know that just because something seems a certain way, it doesn't necessarily mean it is true. It has to be proven scientifically. So far with anything you post here you have failed to produce any scientific proof. For example it should be really simple for you, since you claim you have all the proofs, to show us through calculations what is the statistical occurrence say of matching chechen and Albanian surname versus Chechen and the rest of the world surnames. Same with your toponyms and your cognates.
As for documents or whatever you have the following holds:
1. You haven't posted anything yet, we cant take your word for it, simply because you are a biased source. Its also fishy for someone to take so much time for a simple scan.
2. Just because some individuals claim something it does not make it true. See above about the claims you are making. Doesn't necessarily mean its true.
3. These have to be compared with other documents ( and I don't mean by you since you are not an objective person on this issue) that claim for example that Albanians are natives.
This means that in scientific terms you have not brought to us any proof. If you fail to brings proofs then all your claims are just that: calims or ramblings etc etc. depending on the viewpoint.
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Post by highduke on Feb 3, 2009 21:21:20 GMT -5
Ok leshte, if the fact that I haven't posted the documentation yet makes you at ease, then that's great but whatever you may say, know that 2 famous albanologists (not 'some individuals' you f.aggot) demanding a review of albanian ethnogenesis trumps whatever objections you may have to my research which only contributes to THEIR POV, not mine
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Post by redbaron on Feb 3, 2009 21:47:09 GMT -5
Redbaron you idiot, I never implied IE was an ethnicity, just that the words you listed on pg3 were not coincidental. Secondly the hundreds of examples of shared surnames + toponyms + cognates are probably not all coincidental when factored together with the 11th cent. documentation & the merrit given to it by 2 famous albanologists that you have yet to see scanned copies of Listen you bull$hiter. Read the topic that you yourself wrote:IDENTICAL NON-ISLAMIC ALBo-CHECHEN SURNAMES.You are trying to prove your Albo-Chechen theory. You gave a list of Chechen surnames that are similar to Albanian last names.You didn't show any of the crap that you keep mentioning like the hundreds of examples of shared surnames + toponyms + cognates,11th cent. documentation.Just a list of 12 names and nothing more. Duke John showed you that those names can be found all over the world and are not typical chechen. I on the other hand I was following your logic, gave you a list of Serb surnames that are similar with last names found all over the world. If you don't understand, that list leaves you serbs without an identity.Those last name being not coincidental should make your similarity comparison theory easier to tell where you come from. Once again you idiot stop with the IE origin.It is not an ethnicity.Answer my simple question? Where you Serbs come from?
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Post by highduke on Feb 3, 2009 21:56:17 GMT -5
I told you *****: look at the evidence as a whole: my own research just bolsters the POV of two of the most reknown albanophile albanologists. that's the bottom line, now go console your chechen micropenis with some byron & dont make me post 'the link that won't go away' lol
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Post by redbaron on Feb 3, 2009 22:25:33 GMT -5
I told you f.aggot: look at the evidence as a whole: my own research just bolsters the POV of two of the most reknown albanophile albanologists. that's the bottom line, now go console your chechen micropenis with some byron & dont make me post 'the link that won't go away' lol What evidence you cokcsucker? Where is it? Every time that you get proven wrong you come up with the same lame excuse: Oh wait there is more evidence. It looks like you have become an expert in penises now. You don't like them in micro size you like them macro right. A real PROUD descendant of Lukijan Mušicki's. www.gay-serbia.com/queer/musicki-lukijan/index.jsp
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Post by servus on Feb 3, 2009 22:50:25 GMT -5
Red Baron, why do you keep replying to somebody who is deranged and no matter what u say does not understand logic? He is a freakin psychopath whose only job is to spam Albania forum.
I wish somebody would give me moderating powers to clean this forum up. ;D
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Post by Arthur Kane on Feb 3, 2009 23:49:10 GMT -5
Kane, f.uck your mom - your monolingual, cultureless a.ss got exposed as that of a monolingual liar by you trying to deny being monolingual on pg2 of donnie's 'Mountain of Giants' thread & then getting exposed as such by me. better go talk about 'ancap' & socialism with chechen amateurs lol that, you can handle lol you had your chances with me & f.ucked up both times What does monolingual or bilingual have to do with the validity of an argument if its not about language itself? You know, for a 'cultured guy,' you have as much charm as a caveman ( your choice of words are spectacular.) Glad to see you're following the other thread though. You might yet learn something.
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Post by highduke on Feb 4, 2009 14:32:37 GMT -5
Keep up the hate lol I love it, 'tis the air I breathe
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Post by rex362 on Feb 4, 2009 15:02:50 GMT -5
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Post by libofshe on Feb 5, 2009 3:01:27 GMT -5
The insults are just a proxy to ban me because of my researchhaha research, you're got some balls calling it research.
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Post by highduke on Feb 5, 2009 7:22:48 GMT -5
Just because you dont like it, doesnt mean its not research
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Post by leshte on Feb 5, 2009 19:55:41 GMT -5
HD has the need to feel important. Let him feel that way. HD its not research cuz its googling, simple as that.
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Post by highduke on Feb 5, 2009 20:17:01 GMT -5
My website contains hundreds of scanned pages by alb, cro & western scholars & dozens of scanned ancient & medieval documents & modern translations & I have a degree, so I know when its appropriate to use the internet & when not: it's legit for dictionaries & directories. And for making a stupid statement, I offer you 'the link that wont go away' - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_pederasty 1 more dumb comment & I permanently add it to my signature & link it to my website
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Post by leshte on Feb 5, 2009 23:23:44 GMT -5
Highduke you have a BA in History, that doesn't mean anything. I have 3 degrees so according to you what I say is more believable and reputable then what you say. What you stated in the other thread really shows how much of an amateur you are. I would never expect even from someone with junior high education to state that being muslim is an ethnicity. That statement shows a lack of knowledge. It is just stupid, and things that come from someone who says stupid things hold no value.
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