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Post by ceferistulfericit on Feb 24, 2009 14:39:08 GMT -5
History is teaching us mate - if you forget the lessons history will roll back the tape and it will show it to you again. I know who you are Atan. I've heard this bullsh:t many times before Atan. (You know me too.) And leave the ancestor crap out too: I'm sure that one of grandparents or great grand parents were clever, but that doesn't mean you are, does it? As for history, the only reason why you or other Balkanians on this board are interested in history is in order to justify a land grab (such as szorostalpu) or to justify a position of superiority (like you and your kind). Of course these justifications do require selective judgment (i.e. only taking account of the facts that suit you, and leaving out the facts which don't), rather than science and this makes me sick. History in this area is not treated as science, but rather as politics and furthermore used to justify and extend a nationalist agenda. Therefore the number of people who are geniunely interested in history here in the Balkans are probably in the same proportion as the number of people who are genuinely interested in history in the USA. Just grow up and stop being so indoctrinated.
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 25, 2009 2:13:45 GMT -5
many ciganyok ( romungro, Hungarian gypsies) have been assimilated into Hungarian society, world famous musicians. Your "world famous musicians" just killed a famous sports man. And a few days after that your arguing that "our gypsy are more Aryan than your gypsy" ? As for history, the only reason why you or other Balkanians on this board are interested in history is in order to justify a land grab (such as szorostalpu) or to justify a position of superiority (like you and your kind). Of course these justifications do require selective judgment (i.e. only taking account of the facts that suit you, and leaving out the facts which don't), rather than science and this makes me sick. History in this area is not treated as science, but rather as politics and furthermore used to justify and extend a nationalist agenda. Therefore the number of people who are geniunely interested in history here in the Balkans are probably in the same proportion as the number of people who are genuinely interested in history in the USA. QFT
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Feb 25, 2009 6:17:29 GMT -5
Did I say (all) alzheimers idiot?. raffeal and sztojka...very Hungarian lol, more like olah and slav gypsies
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Post by Atan on Feb 25, 2009 6:49:14 GMT -5
G....Granma!!??!! Is that you??
This is quite stupid comment I must say. Very good! A mark from me (what a clever kid). You try to impress me? By the way how do you know me exactly? How do you judge how clever I am? With such stupid comments?
I will tell you something. You and the feminine people like you who think they are so forward in the means of civilisation - you will be the first to perish. New wave is coming - barbarian wave. It can't be seen clearly nor it can be clearly identified - and the gypsies you love are small part of it. In history if you look - you will see that ancient civilisations were always brought down by barbarians (people who are different in some way than the civilisations they conquered). Look at Rome. Now. Think what caused the fall of Rome - once such great Empire. It is the people inside Rome - people who think like you. Cowardish people. People who think only for their ass and belly. You are not civilised! You are just coward (you remind me of Vaisva). Deep inside you you know what is necessary but your fear is too big. Your puffy arms, legs and body are too weak - and your mind also grows weaker thanks to that. You are one of those who wants only its TV and popcorn. And you are happy.
However unlike you I don't want to see my nation in such position. I hate the gypsies - the only minority in BG which I hate. You know why? Because we tried to integrate them (a mistake) - they refused. Its more easy for them to steal, rob, kill and beg. Wonderful life a? For example the BG state is paying for 1 year money per child - the mongrels just stay home, make babies and only demand money from the state. NONE can integrate them! Its not possible. That's why they were kicked away from their homeland in first place. They understand only the language of force. But you can't understand that with your soft wrist. And mark my words - time will come when you will wish your forefathers to be here to protect you. From these "people" - the gypsies and muslim arabs which are invading Europe.
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 25, 2009 6:51:34 GMT -5
raffeal and sztojka...very Hungarian lol, more like olah and slav gypsies Hey dont be so mean, they are Hungary`s gypsy too. Take care of them and help them to become like most of the Hungarian gypsy : world famous musicians
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Post by oszkarthehun on Feb 25, 2009 9:06:17 GMT -5
Ceferistulfericit are you a proud Romanian ? History is teaching us mate - if you forget the lessons history will roll back the tape and it will show it to you again. I know who you are Atan. I've heard this bullsh:t many times before Atan. (You know me too.) And leave the ancestor crap out too: I'm sure that one of grandparents or great grand parents were clever, but that doesn't mean you are, does it? As for history, the only reason why you or other Balkanians on this board are interested in history is in order to justify a land grab (such as szorostalpu) or to justify a position of superiority (like you and your kind). Of course these justifications do require selective judgment (i.e. only taking account of the facts that suit you, and leaving out the facts which don't), rather than science and this makes me sick. History in this area is not treated as science, but rather as politics and furthermore used to justify and extend a nationalist agenda. Therefore the number of people who are geniunely interested in history here in the Balkans are probably in the same proportion as the number of people who are genuinely interested in history in the USA. Just grow up and stop being so indoctrinated.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Feb 25, 2009 16:41:19 GMT -5
"Take care of them and help them to become like most of the Hungarian gypsy : world famous musicians "
lol....the ignorance of misinformed romanians...
Roby Lakatos (Budapest, 1965) Roby Lakatos is a direct descendant of János Bihari and a member of a traditional family of Romany musicians, within which he received his musical formation, then completed at the Béla Bartók Conservatory of Budapest. He is an extraordinarily versatile violinist, able to combine classic, jazz and folk styles in a single performance. Composer and arranger, he has founded his own ensemble and has performed in international festivals with prestigious orchestras. Violinist Sir Yehudi Menuhin was among his admirers.
Elek Bacsik (Budapest, 22/5/1926 - Glen Ellyn, Illinois, 14/2/1993) Guitarist and violinist, he began to play since his youth as it is common among Hungarian Roma. In 1949 he left Hungary, following his personal friend György Cziffra. After having played in ensembles in Europe with some notable figures of Jazz, in 1966 he emigrated to the United States, where he completed his career as Jazz musician. He was also violinist in Elvis Presley's orchestra, recorded with Dizzy Gillespie and appeared in many concerts with great representatives of American Jazz. Kálmán Balogh (Miskolc, 1959) Born into a Romany family of recognized musical tradition, Kálmán Balogh is a virtuoso cymbalist. He graduated at the Ferenc Liszt Academy of Budapest, and in 1985 he has been awarded as Young Master of Folk Arts. The cymbalon is a particularly unique instrument typcal of Hungarian Gypsies, a hammer dulcimer played with mallets, which Kálmán Balogh plays with mastery and understanding. He has founded his own ensemble and has achieved international success. to name just a few
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 26, 2009 2:10:34 GMT -5
You still need more, a lot more to support your "many" statement : many ciganyok ( romungro, Hungarian gypsies) have been assimilated into Hungarian society, world famous musicians. But thats the tenet of all Hungarians extremists , everything its so super great about them even their fart smells like a sweet summer breeze Even Hungarian gypsy its not a gypsy , many of them are world famous musicians. Let me guess, the other part of gypsies in Hungary who didnt choosed music, are world famous rocket scientists, right ?
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Feb 26, 2009 6:19:29 GMT -5
What don't you understand about this statement, idiot....."Guitarist and violinist, he began to play since his youth as it is common among Hungarian Roma. "
you're not only dumb, but you're as jealous as shit.
"The Hungarian Cigány, also known as Romungro or Musical Gypsies, have been the most loyal of Hungarian subjects. Today the Romungro population has a wide range of genotypes from what the untrained eye would call Hungarian, some with blond, blue eyed and a light coloured skin, through all gradations to those with darker skins, fl hair and brown eyes. With the coming and going of Trianon the Romungro continued to sustain their total loyalty to Hungary in silence"
So as you see..."many" romungro gypsies have been assimilated into Hungarian culture and society unlike the romanian (vlach) gypsies. Do a little research, so at least you look like you at least have half a brain.
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 26, 2009 9:19:50 GMT -5
What don't you understand about this statement, idiot....."Guitarist and violinist, he began to play since his youth as it is common among Hungarian Roma. " So if you quoting about 2 -3 musicians that means MANY Gypsies. ? Do i have to explain to you even what MANY means ? I know you arent the smartest guy in your village, but damn ! dude, are you for real ? In the Topic named "Time Bomb’ Ticks in Hungary as Roma Tension Rises"
You keep telling me about how your Hungarian gypsies are more Aryan than the Swedish and more correct than the Japanese ? hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Feb 26, 2009 16:43:46 GMT -5
"Do i have to explain to you even what MANY means ? "
you obviously can't comprehend what the statement "common among Hungarian roma" means in the statement, "many" lame brain.
"You keep telling me about how your Hungarian gypsies are more Aryan than the Swedish"
show me where exactly.....idiot are you having another alzheimers episode.
the society from which the gypsies are from is the way they behave....romania is a criminally oriented and corrupt society, so the majority of romanian gypsies are criminals.
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 26, 2009 18:49:36 GMT -5
you obviously can't comprehend what the statement "common among Hungarian roma So is a common thing among Hungarian Roma to be world famous musicians ? Cool ! You forgot already about you bragging about the blue eyes of Hungarian gypsies So that means you cant tell the difference between a gypsy and a Hungarian now ? You must have a really trained eye to see it Yeap : Time Bomb’ Ticks in Hungary as Roma Tension Rises Forgot already , eh ? Crime Statistics > Total crimes (most recent) by country #26 Hungary: 420,782 #30 Romania: 312,204
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Feb 27, 2009 6:28:44 GMT -5
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Post by chalkedon on Feb 27, 2009 7:04:52 GMT -5
sorry to jump in...but the gypsies in Greece are fully integrated and cause no problems. Some gypsy girls are very cute with blue, green eyes...as a matter of fact many are.
They are good in music too....a lot of well know musicians are gypos. So I agree..
and btw..aryan means from india if im not mistaken..
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Post by yeni on Feb 27, 2009 8:17:46 GMT -5
sorry to jump in...but the gypsies in Greece are fully integrated and cause no problems. Some gypsy girls are very cute with blue, green eyes...as a matter of fact many are. They are good in music too....a lot of well know musicians are gypos. So I agree.. and btw..aryan means from india if im not mistaken.. Well im sceptical, reading a few articles about the Gypsies in Greece like Athens' gypsies say they're being hidden sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/olympics/2004/08/24/bc.oly.athens.gypsyghet.ap/Gypsies banned from Greek town news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/776366.stmand The Situation of the Roma in Greece www.domresearchcenter.com/journal/16/greece6.htmlit seems to me they are at the bottom of the society just like in other countries from Iraq to Spain.. its a very interesting phenomenom why are the gypsies so resistant to the norms of the majority society, many different regimes tried to integrate them with different methods during the centuries with not much success. what can be their secret?
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 27, 2009 8:21:24 GMT -5
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Post by chalkedon on Feb 27, 2009 8:30:03 GMT -5
sorry to jump in...but the gypsies in Greece are fully integrated and cause no problems. Some gypsy girls are very cute with blue, green eyes...as a matter of fact many are. They are good in music too....a lot of well know musicians are gypos. So I agree.. and btw..aryan means from india if im not mistaken.. Well im sceptical, reading a few articles about the Gypsies in Greece like Athens' gypsies say they're being hidden sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2004/olympics/2004/08/24/bc.oly.athens.gypsyghet.ap/Gypsies banned from Greek town news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/776366.stmand The Situation of the Roma in Greece www.domresearchcenter.com/journal/16/greece6.htmlit seems to me they are at the bottom of the society just like in other countries from Iraq to Spain.. its a very interesting phenomenom why are the gypsies so resistant to the norms of the majority society, many different regimes tried to integrate them with different methods during the centuries with not much success. what can be their secret? Yes..im familiar with those stories. Everyone here in Greece always complains for something ;D But in reality, you dont really here much about them causing trouble or greeks beating them up. and they are hard to integrate as well..i have no idea how they resist so well, but they do. Unfortuantly, we cant do much about it. Its up to them to decide to move forward or not....
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 27, 2009 8:39:44 GMT -5
its a very interesting phenomenom why are the gypsies so resistant to the norms of the majority society, many different regimes tried to integrate them with different methods during the centuries with not much success. what can be their secret? Well usualy its blamed on discrimination , but probably its more their "parasitic" nature. Basically , they reject naturally any of the society they live in while in the same time they try to profit as much as they can from it. For example : It was a public case of a millionaire gypsy( so no poverty/discrimination) who made his fortune by smuggling scrap metal. His son was allowed to attend school only for 4 years , just enough to learn how to read/write so he can continue his father bussines. So just enough to "profit". Who cares about actually getting a culture and integration ? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Or the famous cases when the gypsy came in their BMW or Mercedes limousines to collect their Ajutor Social ( the last and the smallest form of state welfare) They coulnd help it to stole something extra, even if the gas burned by the 3500 L engines on the way was probably more expensive than the actual allowance.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Feb 27, 2009 18:51:43 GMT -5
"One of Britain's most wanted criminals has been arrested in his home country of Hungary,"
Dennis Hunter....hahahahahahahahaha, yea, a very Magyar name.
All very nice articles.... but nothing that compares with this:
"Romanians had “replaced Moroccans and Albanians as Italians’ No 1 nightmare. The difference is that Romanians are now Europeans like us.”
Walter Veltroni, the Mayor of Rome, said that Italy should have followed the example of Britain and other EU countries in imposing immigration limits for new EU members.
Mr Veltroni said that before Romania’s EU accession Rome had been one of the safest cities in Europe. “These are not immigrants who came here to live, but criminal types,” he said. Mr Veltroni said 75 per cent of street crimes in Rome so far this year had been committed by Romanians"
loser......
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Post by lvl100 on Feb 28, 2009 2:36:09 GMT -5
;One of Britain's most wanted criminals has been arrested in his home country of Hungary, I can image why this Hungarian become most wanted criminal. He had a good way to learn in his country situated at the top of "firearms violence"
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