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Post by bosanskinovi on Oct 15, 2008 18:04:46 GMT -5
So a country of 8 million (not counting Kosova here naturally is stronger economically then an entity of 2,5 million....like Bog said; you must be proud Па Косово и Метохија има 2 милиона, по твојој логици су економски јачи од вас (федерације)? No, thats not my logic. Population doesnt have to be decisive, (Slovenia has about 2 million people and is better off economically then Serbia and Bosnia put together), but comparing 2 and 2,5 (Kosova and the Federation) million still doesnt equal comparing 8 and 2,5 million (Serbia and the Federation)
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Post by givemebeer on Oct 15, 2008 18:07:30 GMT -5
Huh, all these threads are the same, RS FBiH Serbia kosovo, kosova..... god demn it gets so boring... from now on I will only post in order to insult people on a national and/or racial basis.....
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Oct 15, 2008 18:08:42 GMT -5
Па Косово и Метохија има 2 милиона, по твојој логици су економски јачи од вас (федерације)? No, thats not my logic. Population doesnt have to be decisive, (Slovenia has about 2 million people and is better off economically then Serbia and Bosnia put together), but comparing 2 and 2,5 (Kosova and the Federation) million still doesnt equal comparing 8 and 2,5 million (Serbia and the Federation) ОК онда САД и ииииииииииии нпр. Бангладеш. Или Руска Федерација и Исланд. Ваља?
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Oct 15, 2008 18:10:08 GMT -5
god demn it gets so boring... from now on I will only post in order to insult people on a national and/or racial basis..... Срећно...... бићеш са већином. Мени мањина сасвим одговара.
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Post by bosanskinovi on Oct 15, 2008 18:18:30 GMT -5
No, thats not my logic. Population doesnt have to be decisive, (Slovenia has about 2 million people and is better off economically then Serbia and Bosnia put together), but comparing 2 and 2,5 (Kosova and the Federation) million still doesnt equal comparing 8 and 2,5 million (Serbia and the Federation) ОК онда САД и ииииииииииии нпр. Бангладеш. Или Руска Федерација и Исланд. Ваља? Like I said, population doesnt have to be decisive. Icelanders and Americans are simply more industrious, diciplined and capitalist-minded then Russians and Bangladeshians (or whatever theyre called), that is what gives them the economic upper-hand. Kind of like Slovenia compared to Bosnia and Serbia. The differences in this "work mentality" isnt as big between Serbs and Bosnians, that is why population (and resources etc) matter more in our case.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Oct 15, 2008 18:20:37 GMT -5
ОК онда САД и ииииииииииии нпр. Бангладеш. Или Руска Федерација и Исланд. Ваља? Like I said, population doesnt have to be decisive. Icelanders and Americans are simply more industrious, diciplined and capitalist-minded then Russians and Bangladeshians (or whatever theyre called), that is what gives them the economic upper-hand. Kind of like Slovenia compared to Bosnia and Serbia. The differences in this "work mentality" isnt as big between Serbs and Bosnians, that is why population (and resources etc) matter more in our case. Погледај ГДП. Јел 50% разлике мало (и то по глави становника)?
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Post by bosanskinovi on Oct 15, 2008 18:31:26 GMT -5
Like I said, population doesnt have to be decisive. Icelanders and Americans are simply more industrious, diciplined and capitalist-minded then Russians and Bangladeshians (or whatever theyre called), that is what gives them the economic upper-hand. Kind of like Slovenia compared to Bosnia and Serbia. The differences in this "work mentality" isnt as big between Serbs and Bosnians, that is why population (and resources etc) matter more in our case. Пlгледај ГДП. Јел 50% разлике мало (и то по глави становника)? We already established that the GDP is higher in Serbia; difference seems to be that you think its fair to compare 8 million strong, 88 361 km² large state of Serbia to the 2,5 million strong 26,110.5 km² large FEDERATION (note not even the country of Bosnia) But whatever, compare Bosnia and Serbia to Bangladesh and the US if that makes you feel good. I'm going to bed
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Post by Demonel on Oct 15, 2008 18:32:48 GMT -5
U BH je problem sto je velika razlika izmedu regija. recimo Srbija bez Kosova ima ogroman GDP. U Federacija Sarajevo ima ogroman GDP dok neki rubni kantoni kao sto je recimo gorazdanski imaju katastrofalno nizak GDP. Problem je sto Sarajevsko-Zenicka i Tuzlanska regija placaju za ostatak Bosne ukljucujuci tu i RS jer se PDV nedjeli prema tome koliko je ko skupio vec procentualno. Dok u RS-u Dodik potencira Banjaluku i eventualno Laktase za razvoj u Federaciji se ono malo para sto ide na razvoj razdjeli po cjeloj federaciji bez potenciranja 3 glavne razvojne regije.
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Post by givemebeer on Oct 15, 2008 18:33:35 GMT -5
Like I said, population doesnt have to be decisive. Icelanders and Americans are simply more industrious, diciplined and capitalist-minded then Russians and Bangladeshians (or whatever theyre called), that is what gives them the economic upper-hand. Kind of like Slovenia compared to Bosnia and Serbia. The differences in this "work mentality" isnt as big between Serbs and Bosnians, that is why population (and resources etc) matter more in our case. Погледај ГДП. Јел 50% разлике мало (и то по глави становника)? that BNP was taken of wiki, I do not know if they are true... anyways, BiH lost our markets, for heavy industry...
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Post by theblackswans on Oct 15, 2008 23:15:58 GMT -5
Whatever you might think of Dodik he definatley aint stupid. I agree. He is the smartest most effective Bosnia leader in recent memory. I wish he was working for the Federation or the whole of BiH!
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Post by theblackswans on Oct 15, 2008 23:20:02 GMT -5
he get popular support by leashing out us Balije once in a while... So he is the sole ruler would be fudal lord, of the Serb Republic good for himWell with Silajdzic yapping away like a rabid dog and revealing his cards on the table with the speaches he has recently made Dodik will be there for quite some time...the fact is most people still feel uncertain in BiH and the saying better the devil you know rings true. People feel safer with him. I never said Silajdzic was better or different, they run on almost the same platform.....Spreading fear.... True but at the same time Dodik has brought RS up to or even past the level of the Federation. At the same time Siljadzic has lost some economic power in the Federation to the RS as well as not scoring any points internationally by crying for intervention like it is 1992 all over again. Leaders like Siljadzic brought Bosnia to the brink of oblivion.
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Post by kapetan on Oct 16, 2008 0:09:04 GMT -5
I think you give Siljadzic too much hate...he was oneof the few who had to go through all the crazy shit in the war....that can be seen as a negative...but alotof the stuff he says IS true.
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Post by tito on Oct 16, 2008 4:28:54 GMT -5
Dodik has brought RS up to or even past the level of the Federation. At the same time Siljadzic has lost some economic power in the Federation to the RS as well as not scoring any points internationally 1. Dodik has not brought RS past Federation, he has robbed RS. 2. Silajdzic is not in charge of the Federation, he is in charge of Bosnia where the overall value of foreign direct investment during his mandate has grown from 556 million Euro in 2006 to 1.628 billion Euro in 2007. 3. Silajdzic is scoring many points for Bosnia internationally, the latest being the pro-Bosnian resolution made by the Council of Europe. Leaders like Siljadzic brought Bosnia to the brink of oblivion. Leaders like Silajdzic make sure that Bosnia stays outside greater Serbia and greater Croatia.
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Post by fazlinho on Oct 16, 2008 6:48:56 GMT -5
Ne kontam kakva veze ima ovo sa Dodikom. I još manje kontam šta je novo u naslovu ovog topika... nećete naći niti ijednu izjavu bilo kojeg Bošnjačkog političara koji ima problem sa Srpskim narodom, nego sa RS. Da Bosna ne može postojati bez Srba je tačno, da Bosna može postojati bez RS je isto tako tačno.
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Post by theblackswans on Oct 16, 2008 12:46:29 GMT -5
Dodik has brought RS up to or even past the level of the Federation. At the same time Siljadzic has lost some economic power in the Federation to the RS as well as not scoring any points internationally 1. Dodik has not brought RS past Federation, he has robbed RS. 2. Silajdzic is not in charge of the Federation, he is in charge of Bosnia where the overall value of foreign direct investment during his mandate has grown from 556 million Euro in 2006 to 1.628 billion Euro in 2007. 3. Silajdzic is scoring many points for Bosnia internationally, the latest being the pro-Bosnian resolution made by the Council of Europe. Leaders like Siljadzic brought Bosnia to the brink of oblivion. Leaders like Silajdzic make sure that Bosnia stays outside greater Serbia and greater Croatia. You know in 2006 I supported Siljadzic but he really hasn't done much to improve the situation. Either reclaim Bosnia as a whole or move on and work on making the Federation more powerful. Economic prosperity makes the Federation stronger as well as attracting moderate Serbs to the Federation. If you want people to turn away from Belgrade and Zagreb then you have to give them a reason to. Obviously the retards will still be retarded but the moderates See Bosnia as there home anyway.
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Post by tito on Oct 16, 2008 13:48:46 GMT -5
You know in 2006 I supported Siljadzic but he really hasn't done much to improve the situation. Either reclaim Bosnia as a whole or move on and work on making the Federation more powerful. Economic prosperity makes the Federation stronger as well as attracting moderate Serbs to the Federation. Again: Silajdzic is NOT in charge of the Federation!! The overall value of foreign direct investment during his mandate has grown from 556 million Euro in 2006 to 1,628 billion Euro in 2007. And because of the entity-voting it is more important to have "moderate Serbs" in RS then FBiH. Anyway the only thing Silajdzic can be blamed for really is the so called police reform where he backed down in order to get Bosnia the SAA from EU. If you want people to turn away from Belgrade and Zagreb then you have to give them a reason to. Actually I don’t care what way those traitors are turning, Silajdzic is offering them a democratic citizens state inside EU and how do they thank him? In my opinion they can all go to Belgrade and Zagreb but they will not separate any part of BiH. Silajdzic was elected by the Bosniak people in order to block the legalization of genocide and that is exactly what he has done with the exception of the so called police reform where he preferred to sign the SAA deal with EU.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Oct 16, 2008 17:11:08 GMT -5
Moreover, the RS would not be able to survive economically as an independent state. ^_^ Really? Why is that?
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Oct 16, 2008 17:22:09 GMT -5
1. Dodik has not brought RS past Federation, he has robbed RS. 2. Silajdzic is not in charge of the Federation, he is in charge of Bosnia where the overall value of foreign direct investment during his mandate has grown from 556 million Euro in 2006 to 1.628 billion Euro in 2007. 3. Silajdzic is scoring many points for Bosnia internationally, the latest being the pro-Bosnian resolution made by the Council of Europe. Leaders like Silajdzic make sure that Bosnia stays outside greater Serbia and greater Croatia. You know in 2006 I supported Siljadzic but he really hasn't done much to improve the situation. Either reclaim Bosnia as a whole or move on and work on making the Federation more powerful. Economic prosperity makes the Federation stronger as well as attracting moderate Serbs to the Federation. If you want people to turn away from Belgrade and Zagreb then you have to give them a reason to. Obviously the retards will still be retarded but the moderates See Bosnia as there home anyway. What do you mean by economic prosperity? Compared to what? The Federation entity of Bosnia isn't exactly ideal haven of prosperity as the people there face much of the same problems that people in the other entity do. Given the socio-economic and political situation there, its highly unlikely that Serbs would be drawn to the Federation and one of the last reasons would be 'economic prosperity' when none significantly exists. In other words one may plan an economic future in Serbia just as well as in the Bosniak entity or perhaps even more securely in Serbia. Given my relative knowledge of economics and personal observations through traveling I still see Bosnia as a whole floundering when it comes to economic security and actual real growth. With the exception of Sarajevo and a larger city like Banja Luka perhaps, the main source of economic growth in Bosnia appears to be in the south western Herzegovian region. Most of the rest of the country still suffers from unemployment and near poverty conditions similar to those found in the countryside of Croatia.
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Post by Croatian Vanguard on Oct 16, 2008 17:27:53 GMT -5
And Sarajevo only has some prosperity because it happens to be the commercial hub and political capital of BiH. It seems to me that most Sarajevan projects are funded through blood money ( taxes) which is ultimately a net loss and no *new* wealth created. One can observe a similar phenomenon in neighboring Croatia. Zagreb out paces the coastal cities economically but most of that is redirected wealth to Zagreb and not actually newly created wealth. The coastal cities create more net wealth.
SA and BL compared to other capitals and cities in the region and Europe as whole are still severely lagging. To be fair, the 'bounce back' of Sarajevo is most impressive considering the turmoil the people there experienced almost two decades ago.
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Post by kapetan on Oct 16, 2008 17:41:58 GMT -5
Moreover, the RS would not be able to survive economically as an independent state. ^_^ Really? Why is that? Ask the guy who said it, (Lajcak). It's from the article.
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