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Post by vinjak on Feb 10, 2008 17:35:51 GMT -5
Sramota means, shameful,or how embarasing depends on the contex in the case here it means shameful and it is shameful how you claim something which you have been either fed or somehow came to your own conclusion.
What you have done is collectivley laid the blame on a whole generation of Women in a specific age group which deep down i seriously think you cannot realy believe. You have done what the Media campaigns have succeded to do back in the nintys and that is to demonise a whole peoples it does however make it easier to hate and to swallow propaganda whole without doing what people do natuaraly and look into it themselves.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 10, 2008 17:37:04 GMT -5
by the way could you please explain to me what a Serb colonist is ?
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Post by cando4u on Feb 10, 2008 17:39:01 GMT -5
Sramota means, shameful,or how embarasing depends on the contex in the case here it means shameful and it is shameful how you claim something which you have been either fed or somehow came to your own conclusion. What you have done is collectivley laid the blame on a whole generation of Women in a specific age group which deep down i seriously think you cannot realy believe. You have done what the Media campaigns have succeded to do back in the nintys and that is to demonise a whole peoples it does however make it easier to hate and to swallow propaganda whole without doing what people do natuaraly and look into it themselves. shameful ? You could of just said it in English ,we were speaking it at the time anyways . And 1/2 applause for 2nd part . Good try but no ice cream for you. I was trying to make you understand the quilt but you have a knack or is that a Serbian trait of turning it around .
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Post by cando4u on Feb 10, 2008 17:44:53 GMT -5
by the way could you please explain to me what a Serb colonist is ? Serbia's colony demands independence Submitted on 9 February, 2008 - 19:54 * Former Yugoslavia * Solidarity 3/126, 7 February 2008 Former Yugoslavia Author: Colin Foster The narrow victory of Boris Tadic in Serbia’s presidential election on 3 February slightly lessens the tensions over the independence of Kosova. But only slightly. Kosova’s elected government, currently operating under UN control, was likely to declare independence immediately if Tadic’s rival Tomislav Nikolic had won the presidency. Now it will delay a few weeks. Kosova, 90% Albanian in population, was conquered by Serbia in 1912, and again after World War Two. It was a “colony” of Serbia for most of the 20th century. Its people have a right to self-determination.From about 1974 to 1988 Kosova enjoyed fairly liberal autonomy. Then Serbian leader Slobodan Milosevic launched a crackdown, culminating in an attempt in 1999 to massacre or drive out the Albanian population. In face of NATO bombing, Milosevic eventually withdrew from Kosova, and the following year his rule in Serbia was topped by popular revolt. Since 1999 Kosova has been under UN control. Chauvinism still runs warm in Serbia. Tadic does not dare recognise Kosovar independence, but - unlike Nikolic - he is determined to get Serbia into the EU, and knows that most EU states will recognise Kosovar independence. Serbian prime minister Vojislav Kostunica refused to back Tadic for president - although Tadic’s party is part of his government - because he considered Tadic too “soft” on Kosova. Kostunica is more “eurosceptic” than Tadic. Relations are further envenomed by the persecution by Kosova’s Albanian majority of its Serbian minority. Because most of the big powers (except Russia) are willing to accept Kosova’s independence, and Serbian imperialism is relatively small-scale and regional, some on the left are inclined to deny Kosova’s rights. But the rights of oppressed nations are not conditional on the power oppressing them being the USA, or a US ally.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 10, 2008 17:46:16 GMT -5
there is no need to make me understand as I know that heinous crimes have been commited but again those that did are either in the Hague, on the run or are haunted by there own demons which they will have to face one day. But you cannot go and demonise a whole peoples which is what you did.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 10, 2008 17:48:06 GMT -5
It is actualy a province of Serbia and as such there is no such thing as a Serb Colonist.
was conquered by Serbia in 1912, and again after World War Two.
Do you know the history of Kosovo before 1912 ?
Understand the whole history of Kosovo and then comment. Dont just swallow what is put in front of you.
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Post by cando4u on Feb 10, 2008 17:57:59 GMT -5
No I dont know much about the history before 1912 ,just what I have seen from the news since Yugolsavia stopped being.
I bet your going to tell me the history ,dont bother bcs If I ask a Croatian,Bosnia or Kosovor it will differ.
"It is actualy a province of Serbia and as such there is no such thing as a Serb Colonist."
Then why a province and never made an integral part of Serbia ?
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Post by cando4u on Feb 10, 2008 18:02:21 GMT -5
In the news and even here I have seen Kosovo called the "Heartland of Serbia"
An average person like me would simply say -Why isn't the Capitol of Serbia in Kosovo and how did the Kosovors dupe you out of it ?
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Post by vinjak on Feb 10, 2008 18:04:58 GMT -5
I bet your going to tell me the history ,dont bother bcs If I ask a Croatian,Bosnia or Kosovor it will differ.
Actualy it wont differ.
Kosovo was taken from Serbia by the Ottomans Serbia took it back Kosovo was taken again from Serbia by the Nazis Serbia took it back Kosovo taken from Serbia by the Albanians (watch this space)
Then why a province and never made an integral part of Serbia ?
Short and simple answer is Tito and comunism
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Post by cando4u on Feb 10, 2008 18:05:07 GMT -5
"Short and simple answer is Tito and comunism" Now that is a short and stupid answer. "Kosovo was taken from Serbia by the Ottomans Serbia took it back Kosovo was taken again from Serbia by the Nazis Serbia took it back Kosovo taken from Serbia by the Albanians (watch this space)" Just seems you couldnt keep hold of it and that pattern dictates you will lose it on the 17th . But in honesty you have never lost it bcs you never really had it . Pretending or dreaming does not make it so . maybe you take it back in year 2121 ,keep your heads up though.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 10, 2008 18:06:10 GMT -5
Why ?
If you read how Yugoslavia was created you will see its not stupid but fact.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 10, 2008 18:08:17 GMT -5
Look I am a Serb so my words probably are propaganda to you so please go ahead and read up on it all from history books not the media and discover for yourself.
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Post by Fender on Feb 10, 2008 18:11:49 GMT -5
Look I am a Serb so my words probably are propaganda to you so please go ahead and read up on it all from history books not the media and discover for yourself. don't bother vinjak, its proven that you can't teach the ignorant with a closed mind.
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Post by cando4u on Feb 10, 2008 18:11:56 GMT -5
Whats the Vatican's view on all this ?
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Post by vinjak on Feb 10, 2008 18:16:13 GMT -5
Whats the Vatican's view on all this ?
Why does it matter what the Vaticans views are ?
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Post by cando4u on Feb 10, 2008 18:19:00 GMT -5
Look I am a Serb so my words probably are propaganda to you so please go ahead and read up on it all from history books not the media and discover for yourself. don't bother vinjak, its proven that you can't teach the ignorant with a closed mind. My mind is very open and remember I have worked among Serbian people for 5 years and have heard most of the things you preach here. But I just nodded my head and let it go on bcs It might of cost me my job possibly. And maybe I might seem a bit harsh for you Serbians here but your just like them almost, trying to take me and seperatley try to convince me of their viewpoint like as if they were madly campaigning and it would satisfy them greatly if I held a Serbian flag up high. Bottom Line Its just that everybody around you (your neighbors) is against your history and politics. or is that just that they are all scheming against you ?
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Post by cando4u on Feb 10, 2008 18:20:19 GMT -5
Whats the Vatican's view on all this ? Why does it matter what the Vaticans views are ? Bcs I respect their view on it . I will do a search on my own ,nevermind
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Post by vinjak on Feb 10, 2008 18:23:49 GMT -5
Its just that everybody around you (your neighbors) is against your history and politics. Politics of the ninties yes but not of History of Kosovo what are you talking about. And dont freakin patronise me I aint preaching here I just gave you some facts and asked you to look it up yourself how is that preaching.
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Post by vinjak on Feb 10, 2008 18:30:21 GMT -5
me and seperatley try to convince me of their viewpoint like as if they were madly campaigning and it would satisfy them greatly if I held a Serbian flag up high.LoL actulay nobody really gives a stuff, all I want is for you to stop posting your versions of reality,and when you make comments against a whole peoples you should really know what you are talking about if you want go and read some history books if not well thats cool too.
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Post by CiKoLa on Feb 10, 2008 18:33:42 GMT -5
"Short and simple answer is Tito and comunism" "Kosovo was taken from Serbia by the Ottomans Serbia took it back Kosovo was taken again from Serbia by the Nazis Serbia took it back Kosovo taken from Serbia by the Albanians (watch this space)" What i want to know is what the ethnic composition of Kosovo was at each of the times in history u say serbia took kosovo back. ? Did they differ at any stage?
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