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Post by tito on Feb 9, 2009 1:11:51 GMT -5
Are there any Albanian sources about a possible Illyrian coat of arms? The Bosnian medieval sources suggest this:  Are there any Albanian sources that can confirm this or suggest some alternatives? And yes your national hero’s family symbols are there too:  PS. it seems to be the same kind of star in both pictures |
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Feb 9, 2009 1:19:20 GMT -5
Those drawings look really authentic... in a daycare centre art class kind of way.
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Post by tito on Feb 9, 2009 1:36:25 GMT -5
At least no one has changed them for the past 700 years.
Do you want me to post the original coat of arms of Serbia? ;D
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Feb 9, 2009 2:01:38 GMT -5
How about you post the original names of your forefathers before they became Alija, Mirza, Fihret itd...
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Post by tito on Feb 9, 2009 2:13:23 GMT -5
We have already discussed that issue, you wanted to look into my family tree so I gave you my last name but you "couldn’t trace it back to anyone specific"  |
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Feb 9, 2009 2:18:57 GMT -5
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Feb 9, 2009 2:28:18 GMT -5
The Illyrians had a Sun as their god and as their flag, they were sun worshippers. Here is a drawing of Illyrian Warriors against the Romans.  You can see the sun flag.  |
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Post by insomniac on Feb 9, 2009 2:34:39 GMT -5
Ok this thread is so many with so many symbols from communist relics to middle ages to illyrian coins.
This is a hard subject that even researched on Illyria would find difficult to answer.
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Post by tito on Feb 9, 2009 2:37:32 GMT -5
Thank you ILIR.  We seem to have a matching symbol:  Can someone translate the text please.  Also more info on this one would be nice. |
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Post by insomniac on Feb 9, 2009 3:15:12 GMT -5
It says translated in Alb: "Coin from Pafosi, where sketched is the temple of Afrodite and above the goddess, her symbols, the half-moon and morning star.
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Post by tito on Feb 9, 2009 3:47:58 GMT -5
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Post by engers on Feb 9, 2009 8:16:23 GMT -5
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Feb 10, 2009 0:29:57 GMT -5
 This one is the Muzaka (aka Musachi) Family's emblem, from Southern Albania, in the Muzeqe area. That jewish looking star was actually worshipped by illyrians as a god and so is the sun. |
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Post by kapetan on Feb 10, 2009 0:36:31 GMT -5
more uses of that of moon and star in balkans banner of constantanople  illyria   bosnian coat of arms   herzegovina flag  flag during the bosnian uprisings 1875-1877. .svg/250px-Flag_of_Bosnia_(1875-1877).svg.png)  here on top  |
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Post by bosna505 on Apr 6, 2010 11:22:28 GMT -5
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Post by bato2 on Apr 12, 2010 9:13:46 GMT -5
 Flag of Principality of Arber 1190-1255  Principality of Valona and Canina 1332-1417  Castrioti Family Seal - League of Lezha 1444-1479  Muzakaj Principality Berat, 1335-1444  Dukagjini Principality - 1387-1444  Topiaj Principality - 1368-1444  Arianiti Principality - 1432-1444 |
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 12, 2010 12:25:04 GMT -5
The star and crescent is one of those things found commonly among many culture, like the swastika. I believe it originated in the east and moved westward to represent Anatolia. Its a very very common Persian motif. The motif may have come to Anatolia and then Europe through the Hellenistic Persian rulers of Anatolia (like Mithridates) and maybe also through the adoption of various Persian cults (like Mithras).
The Double Headed eagle also has its origins in eastern motifs and moved westward through adoption into the Roman and later east Roman empires.
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Post by bato2 on Apr 12, 2010 13:16:31 GMT -5
The star and crescent is one of those things found commonly among many culture, like the swastika. I believe it originated in the east and moved westward to represent Anatolia. Its a very very common Persian motif. The motif may have come to Anatolia and then Europe through the Hellenistic Persian rulers of Anatolia (like Mithridates) and maybe also through the adoption of various Persian cults (like Mithras). The Double Headed eagle also has its origins in eastern motifs and moved westward through adoption into the Roman and later east Roman empires. Interesting...Portsmouth FC Crest with crescent and star  |
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Post by shkreli on Feb 22, 2012 23:14:40 GMT -5
Yll = star
yllir= star person
ylliria = the kingdom of stars
thats why the coat of arms all have stars..thats why the ancient yllirian shields have the star ..i wiSH slavs never came 1300 bc this way today all the illyrian assimilated bosnjaks croats even serbs n def montenegrans and assimilated arvanitis would speak yllirian langauge today and we wouldnt argue bout dumb shit n even kill each other...
belive it or not slobodan milosevic has malsor roots..........
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We seem to have a matching symbol:
