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Post by theblackswans on Jul 3, 2008 18:16:47 GMT -5
UN APPEALS COURT ACQUITS BOSNIAN HERO NASER ORIC OF ALL WAR CRIMES CHARGES THE HAGUE, The Netherlands (July 3,2008) - A U.N. appeals court today overturned the war crimes conviction of Bosnian war hero Naser Oric,the commander of the Bosnian Army in the eastern Bosnian town of Srebrenica,during the 1992-1995 Serbian aggression against Bosnia.
Oric,41,had been convicted in 2006 of failing to prevent subordinates from killing six genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor's soldiers captured and held by the Bosnian Army in 1992 and 1993 in Srebrenica.
However,judges gave him a lenient two-year sentence and ordered his immediate release because of time spent in custody.
But appeals judges went even further, overturning both convictions because the original trial failed to establish that Oric had control over Bosnian forces responsible for the killings of six captured genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor's soldiers.
"The appeals chamber reverses Naser Oric's conviction," said judge Wolfgang Schomburg of the International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia, (ICTY) based in The Hague.
The court emphasized that "proof that crimes have occurred is not sufficient to sustain a conviction of an individual for these crimes."
The court criticised the fact that the perpetrators then had not been sufficiently identified. So it could not be proven whether they had in fact been under Oric's command.
Oric stared ahead without showing any emotion as the judgment was read and then bowed briefly to judges before sitting down. Outside court, he hugged friends and his lawyer before walking out the front door a free man.
"Of course I am very happy," he said.
His lawyer, Vasvija Vidovic, said the acquittal was no surprise.
"Anyone who followed the trial could expect the result that he is not guilty," she said.
Oric said he was not bitter about spending nearly three years in pretrial custody, only to ultimately be found not guilty on all charges. "It was my destiny," Oric said.
Oric led the heroic defense of the Srebrenica enclave against attacks from the genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor's forces from early in the war. In 1995, the genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor's forces stormed a U.N.-declared "safe haven" in Srebrenica and mass murdered some 10,000 Bosnian civilians,which was Europe's worst civilian massacre since World War II.
Oric defended the actions of all Bosnian soldiers in the enclave, saying they were in a desperate situation.
"I don't think they really committed crimes," he said outside court. "We were under siege. We were just fighting to survive and fighting for our lives."
One of the genocidal Serbian fascist aggressor's commanders,Serbian war criminal Radoslav Krstic, has already been sentenced to 35 years after a conviction on genocide charges.
The commander of the genocidal paramilitary fascist forces of the Serbians living in Bosnia (VRS), Ratko Mladic - also charged with genocide for the Srebrenica mass murders - is believed to be hiding in the genocidal Serbia.
Munira Subasic, head of the Women of Srebrenica Association, said Oric's innocence was obvious from the start.
"He was himself the victim of genocide" as 22 members of his family members had been murdered by Serbs, Subasic said.
"The fact that the court even indicted him for war crimes made us all believe it had become unjust."
In March 1995 Naser Oriæ was awarded the "Golden Lily", the highest award given by the Chief of Staff of the Supreme Command of the Bosnian Army.
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Post by theblackswans on Jul 3, 2008 18:17:09 GMT -5
How about that! It is about time!
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Post by sweetnugs on Jul 3, 2008 18:49:52 GMT -5
Second time he got off free. At least Bosniacs have no problem sending their people in, unlike Serbs who hide their 'heroes' like rats.
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Post by vinjak on Jul 3, 2008 19:13:55 GMT -5
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Post by vinjak on Jul 3, 2008 19:19:23 GMT -5
So the makeshift motley military force of the Muslims in Srebrenica, under the command of its 25-year old warlord, learned to fend for itself. Its desperate pleas to Sarajevo for more weapons and ammunition remained unanswered. They ravaged and ransacked neighbouring ethnic Serb villages, killing and maiming the residents, who were often too old to offer any resistance. Hunger drove the Muslims to ignore age-old food laws: pigs were slaughtered and taken home to the enclave. The Serb villages were then set on fireBosnian Serb retaliation The Bosnian Serbs did not forget Naser Oric and his raids. They claim he was responsible for killing over 1,000 Serb civilians. It was uppermost in the Serbs' minds when in the early summer of 1995 they tightened their stranglehold on the enclave. Once Srebrenica had fallen (the weak Dutch UNPROFOR peace force stationed in the town had not attempted to offer any resistance to the Serb onslaught), Bosnian Serb Army units led by General Ratko Mladic immediately started separating women and children from the men and boys. The Bosnian Serbs gave Nasir Oric's raids as reason for this sinister move: they said they wanted to find out whether any of the male population had taken part in them. Then, Mladic's forces executed them all, up to 8,000, an unmatched atrocity in post-World War Two Europe.www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/region/internationalorganisations/icty030411.html
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Post by kapetan on Jul 3, 2008 19:25:25 GMT -5
Heh, they just can't catch a break.
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Post by vinjak on Jul 3, 2008 19:33:56 GMT -5
If not in this world than in the next. The bastards who killed the innocents are now where they should be.....Oric's time will come one day. As will Mladic's. They will all answer to God one day.
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Post by theblackswans on Jul 3, 2008 20:15:36 GMT -5
At least Bosniacs have no problem sending their people in, Troops of the international peace force in Bosnia (SFOR) have captured Naser Oric, a former Bosnian Muslim militia leader. Naser Oric, who used to command the Bosnian Muslim military forces in Srebrenica, unlike Serbs who hide their 'heroes' Hopefully they are never handed over to this bullsh$t court. THATS BS!!!!!!!!!!!! Oric wasn't in hiding in Tuzla he owned a resturant on a lake and was highly visible. It was a sealed warrant that they executed so cut out the bulls*it! Thats why I hate dealing with you cetnik bast*ards!
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Post by theblackswans on Jul 3, 2008 20:19:04 GMT -5
So the makeshift motley military force of the Muslims in Srebrenica, under the command of its 25-year old warlord, learned to fend for itself. Its desperate pleas to Sarajevo for more weapons and ammunition remained unanswered. They ravaged and ransacked neighbouring ethnic Serb villages, killing and maiming the residents, who were often too old to offer any resistance. Hunger drove the Muslims to ignore age-old food laws: pigs were slaughtered and taken home to the enclave. The Serb villages were then set on fireBosnian Serb retaliation The Bosnian Serbs did not forget Naser Oric and his raids. They claim he was responsible for killing over 1,000 Serb civilians. It was uppermost in the Serbs' minds when in the early summer of 1995 they tightened their stranglehold on the enclave. Once Srebrenica had fallen (the weak Dutch UNPROFOR peace force stationed in the town had not attempted to offer any resistance to the Serb onslaught), Bosnian Serb Army units led by General Ratko Mladic immediately started separating women and children from the men and boys. The Bosnian Serbs gave Nasir Oric's raids as reason for this sinister move: they said they wanted to find out whether any of the male population had taken part in them. Then, Mladic's forces executed them all, up to 8,000, an unmatched atrocity in post-World War Two Europe.www.radionetherlands.nl/currentaffairs/region/internationalorganisations/icty030411.html All that talk of thousands of Serbs killed around Srebrenica it BS! Most killed were soldiers or armed civillian defense. Cetniks had 10x the weapons as Bosniaks! How were they suppose to get weapons on a large scale into Srebrenica? Gorazde was different because they had an armorments plant in the town. You are so full of crap you stink!
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Post by vinjak on Jul 3, 2008 20:29:07 GMT -5
THATS BS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oric wasn't in hiding in Tuzla he owned a resturant on a lake and was highly visible. It was a sealed warrant that they executed so cut out the bulls*it!Did I actualy say he was hiding numbnuts ? LOL I posted an article, Wannabe Balija All that talk of thousands of Serbs killed around Srebrenica it BS!Of course it is Hypocrite Most killed were soldiers or armed civillian defense.LOL of course they where. How were they suppose to get weapons on a large scale into Srebrenica?They should not have it was supposed to be a freakin demilatirized safe zone numnuts. You are so full of crap you stink! LOL nothing worse than a American apologist wannabe Balija. Thats why I hate dealing with you cetnik bast*ards!Dealing with ? LOL Moron.
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Post by Duke John on Jul 3, 2008 23:26:24 GMT -5
Congratulation ;D
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Post by zgembo on Jul 3, 2008 23:40:06 GMT -5
The reconciliation process just got another setback.
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Post by Trazi Vise on Jul 4, 2008 1:00:33 GMT -5
How can you convict such puppy eyes as those, no way...it couldn't be; he wouldn't hurt a fly! :-)
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Post by engers on Jul 4, 2008 1:37:25 GMT -5
Congratulation to Naser Oric and Bosnian nation.
Burst into tears DUSMANI. ;D
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Post by osmano on Jul 4, 2008 4:50:53 GMT -5
Vraæam se èista obrazaOno što smo oduvijek znali moj narod, prijatelji i ja, neka danas znaju oni koji su me godinama proganjali - nisam ratni zloèinac... 04.07.2008. Samo desetak minuta nakon što je saopæena odluka Žalbenog vijeæa Haškog tribunala kojom mu je ukinuta prvostepena presuda od dvije godine zatvora, Naser Oriæ u telefonskom razgovoru za naš list poruèio je da bi najradije stao pred kapiju Haškog tribunala i uzviknuo da cijeli svijet èuje da on nije ratni zloèinac. Uloga Del Ponte - To smo znali moji prijatelji, moj narod s kojim sam živio pakao Srebrenice i ja, ali sada neka znaju i oni koji su me godinama vrijeðali prièom da sam ubijao nevine ljude. Sve što sam u ratu radio, bila je borba za goli opstanak podrinjske sirotinje s kojom sam se našao u srebrenièkoj ratnoj jami gdje nismo imali izbora - kazao nam je Oriæ. Na upit zašto se pojavio u haškoj sudnici iako mu je još prije mjesec javljeno da njegovo prisustvo nije obavezno, priznao nam je da je imao "neobjašnjiv osjeæaj" da æe Žalbeno vijeæe odluèiti pozitivno. - Da nisam vjerovao u Boga, u pravdu i posebno u moj advokatski tim s Vasvijom Vidoviæ na èelu, ne bih izdržao sve ove godine. Imao sam u sebi neki damar koji mi je govorio da moram otiæi u Hag, jednostavno da bih se u Bosnu vratio èista obraza. Ne zaboravite, Srebrenica nije zaslužila da se njenoj žrtvi sudi i presudi za ratni zloèin. Oni koji su mi krojili optužnicu, željeli su da ja budem uzrok za ono što se dogodilo 1995. godine. Zato sam ponovo ušao u sudnicu nadajuæi se da æu gledati pravdi u oèi. I nisam pogriješio - kaže Oriæ. Doèek na aerodromu Naser Oriæ, zajedno s dijelom tima svoje odbrane, danas poslije podne trebao bi se vratiti u Sarajevo. Na pitanje šta æe sada raditi, odgovorio je kroz smijeh: - Bit æu slobodan èovjek. Kako prenosi Fena, Organizacija demobilisanih boraca Armije RBiH Srebrenica organizirat æe doèek Oriæa u 15 sati na Sarajevskom aerodromu. Autobusi iz Srebrenice u Sarajevo polaze u deset sati ispred Islamskog centra, kaže se u saopæenju Organizacije.
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Post by theblackswans on Jul 4, 2008 6:26:53 GMT -5
THATS BS!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oric wasn't in hiding in Tuzla he owned a resturant on a lake and was highly visible. It was a sealed warrant that they executed so cut out the bulls*it!Did I actualy say he was hiding numbnuts ? LOL I posted an article, Wannabe Balija All that talk of thousands of Serbs killed around Srebrenica it BS!Of course it is Hypocrite Most killed were soldiers or armed civillian defense.LOL of course they where. How were they suppose to get weapons on a large scale into Srebrenica?They should not have it was supposed to be a freakin demilatirized safe zone numnuts. You are so full of crap you stink! LOL nothing worse than a American apologist wannabe Balija. Thats why I hate dealing with you cetnik bast*ards!Dealing with ? LOL Moron. Then what was the quotes about the capture of Naser Oric before, insinuating he was captured? It has all been explained what happened in and around Srebrenica and the world has passed it's judgment to be written in history cetniks terrorists committed genocide and losers like you make apologies. I am sure your momma is proud of you!
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Post by MiG on Jul 4, 2008 15:28:33 GMT -5
What happened and what was committed by both sides is nothing to glorify, absolutely nothing to glorify. 1,000 dead Serb civilians, and then in retaliation to this, 8,000 dead Bosniaks. Maybe in the next war there will be an even greater number of deaths, simply because the next generation will carry on the hatred of the past generation.
BTW, Blackswans, you cannot label and ENTIRE people for the actions of a few.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jul 4, 2008 15:40:04 GMT -5
Blackswans: LOL man ur taking this too serious..... To be honest i dont give a flying fuck about oric or mladic or whoever,,, they will pay what they did someday anyways...
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Post by vinjak on Jul 4, 2008 17:23:53 GMT -5
What happened and what was committed by both sides is nothing to glorify, absolutely nothing to glorify. 1,000 dead Serb civilians, and then in retaliation to this, 8,000 dead Bosniaks.
Exactly, Mig we all know what happened and why, I certainly did not try to justify anything nor have I, but this F&^k will not get away with spitting on the Civilians that where murdered, like they do not matter. Not only is he a American wannabe Balija but he takes a Nik that has nothing to do with him "Blackswans"
In an explanation from the ICTY it states,
ICTY emphasized that while grave crimes were committed against Bosnian Serbs in the area under Oric’s command, ‘proof that crimes have occurred is not sufficient to sustain a conviction of an individual for these crimes.’
And this Prik answers with,
All that talk of thousands of Serbs killed around Srebrenica it BS! Most killed were soldiers or armed civillian defense.
F&^ken Loser.
As far as the Siptaria that say hello here every now and again well.... Jebiga svi znamo da Zivotinje nemaju obraz.
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Post by theblackswans on Jul 4, 2008 19:21:36 GMT -5
What happened and what was committed by both sides is nothing to glorify, absolutely nothing to glorify. 1,000 dead Serb civilians, and then in retaliation to this, 8,000 dead Bosniaks.Exactly, Mig we all know what happened and why, I certainly did not try to justify anything nor have I, but this F&^k will not get away with spitting on the Civilians that where murdered, like they do not matter. Not only is he a American wannabe Balija but he takes a Nik that has nothing to do with him "Blackswans" In an explanation from the ICTY it states, ICTY emphasized that while grave crimes were committed against Bosnian Serbs in the area under Oric’s command, ‘proof that crimes have occurred is not sufficient to sustain a conviction of an individual for these crimes.’ And this Prik answers with, All that talk of thousands of Serbs killed around Srebrenica it BS! Most killed were soldiers or armed civillian defense.F&^ken Loser. As far as the Siptaria that say hello here every now and again well.... Jebiga svi znamo da Zivotinje nemaju obraz. F*ck you bit*ch! I don't have to justify myself or my connections to BiH, they date back to before the war and I have a lot more invested in BiH and it's future than you ever will. You just need a reality check, I don't know what your interest is on this forum anyway, shouldn't you be tossing some chetniks salad on the Serbian site? You just try to provoke and act like an as*hole, but really you are just a pus*sy! It's always you young expatriates that have to try to prove your manhood or nationhood when you really have no connection at all. Your just a fronting a*s mark who likes to pretend you are a patriot on the web or pretend you are a some character on a video game. Your such a bi*tch... I bet you pee sitting down and ride on the back of a motorcycle that your man drives.
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