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Post by srbobran on Aug 14, 2008 11:44:44 GMT -5
Why the hell would any normal person view joining the European Union as a good thing. It's a spineless American vassal with a crappy socialist economy.
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Post by ccccnjegoscccc on Aug 14, 2008 11:45:23 GMT -5
My bad...tito would have wanted Bosna to join with Afghanistan.
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Post by MiG on Aug 14, 2008 16:37:52 GMT -5
^ However you look at it, we're all screwed in the Balkans, so let's live with it.
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Post by bihvojska on Aug 14, 2008 18:21:49 GMT -5
i agree with Mig we are all in the same shit, and i think its about time people learn to live together and not hate cause, we arent getting far. If some one asks where u from Europe u say balkans, that second they think dam this guy went through a huge war and he is a maniac and etc....we all the same balkan blood, no matter of religion, people can say what they want but were all the same live with it. i hope it hurts the nationalist, cause a serb shares blood with a Bosnian and croat shares blood with a serb as well and etc.....
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Post by kapetan on Aug 14, 2008 18:44:27 GMT -5
Da ti kazem ljudi mi smo Balkanci s time se pomiri i zivi nece nam pomoc' stranci - Edo Maajka
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Post by MiG on Aug 14, 2008 19:50:14 GMT -5
It's true. We are considered a mere economic exploitation to the European world.
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Post by kapetan on Aug 14, 2008 20:08:37 GMT -5
Heroin and cheap labour yay!
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Post by terroreign on Aug 14, 2008 20:15:38 GMT -5
Crna Gora spent half its "independance" being owned by Turkey. The old myth that our fathers rammed into our brains about Montenegro being Independant for 600 years is all fabrication. Yes our Serbian ancestors did fight bravely in and around Cetinje for many a generation, yes we did have phases of so called "independance", and yes we did make the Turks piss on numerous occasions, but to say we were always independant is a laugh. The fact of the matter is when the Serbs retreated to Crna Gora after Kosovo, although we may have held the Muslim scum at bay amazingly: If the Turks really wanted to smash us, they could have. But the area around Cetinje was/is/and forever will be crap land.....why would the Turks want to spill blood for such crappy land. They only started taking Crna Gora seriously when other Serb lands around Podgorica, Hercegovina etc started uprisings. PS. TerrorReign your pig-breeding family were in Tirana when mine were in Montengro, stop claiming my families history as your own you rat. Montenegro was never a part of turkey, it was it's own sandzak (Montenegro sandzak) for about 50 years, but after that independent. Obviously a posrbica like you wouldn't understand history very well. But the fact is our ethnic Montenegrin ancestors were great warriors who were able to defeat the turks throughout the area with much smaller numbers, and keep their land consistantly free. Btw the land around cetinje is very fertile land, thus it's been a sheperding area for over 2000 years and the Mecca of the Montenegrin nation!! Btw noone went to CG from kosovo, that's just one of your little posrbica fairy tales. My ancestors were in Grahovo, in Niksicko polje, in Vuci Do! We fought and preserved our Montenegrin ethnicity and national freedom and pride!! E VIVAAA Long live Montenegrin Hercegovina!
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Post by MiG on Aug 14, 2008 20:15:40 GMT -5
^ Very good for all of our people indeed.
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Post by kapetan on Aug 14, 2008 20:18:04 GMT -5
Crna Gora spent half its "independance" being owned by Turkey. The old myth that our fathers rammed into our brains about Montenegro being Independant for 600 years is all fabrication. Yes our Serbian ancestors did fight bravely in and around Cetinje for many a generation, yes we did have phases of so called "independance", and yes we did make the Turks piss on numerous occasions, but to say we were always independant is a laugh. The fact of the matter is when the Serbs retreated to Crna Gora after Kosovo, although we may have held the Muslim scum at bay amazingly: If the Turks really wanted to smash us, they could have. But the area around Cetinje was/is/and forever will be crap land.....why would the Turks want to spill blood for such crappy land. They only started taking Crna Gora seriously when other Serb lands around Podgorica, Hercegovina etc started uprisings. PS. TerrorReign your pig-breeding family were in Tirana when mine were in Montengro, stop claiming my families history as your own you rat. E VIVAAA Long live Montenegrin Hercegovina! lolz
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Post by tito on Aug 14, 2008 20:19:09 GMT -5
Montenegro was never a part of turkey, it was it's own sandzak ;D ;D ;D
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Post by terroreign on Aug 14, 2008 20:29:27 GMT -5
^Turkey isn't the same as the ottomans buddy! And 50 something years is irrelevant when comparing to your 500 !!!
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Post by kapetan on Aug 14, 2008 20:36:21 GMT -5
Alot of the "Ottomans" who did anything in the Balkan were Bosnians and Albanians and other Muslims. We're the ones that had to die in every war waged. So when you read about Ottomans sacking your town and raping everyting, think of us as well
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Post by zgembo on Aug 14, 2008 21:03:33 GMT -5
^ Perhaps you will understand Njegos' Istraga Poturica and Ratko Mladic's vengence in Srebrenica a little better now.
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Post by terroreign on Aug 15, 2008 1:02:33 GMT -5
El Kapetan - So then 40,000 of you guys vs 4000 of us, and we come out on top, really shows your fighting skills ;P
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Post by kapetan on Aug 15, 2008 1:02:34 GMT -5
^ Perhaps you will understand Njegos' Istraga Poturica and Ratko Mladic's vengence in Srebrenica a little better now. No, since I was making a joke, and never supported the mass killing of civilians or unarmed men. Any men of any origin. Also those were medieval times, every army pillaged and raped. Mostly places where there was things to steal and booty. Not shitholes like Srebrenica where you kill just for the sake of exterminating an ethnicity.. One would hope the last years of the 20th century would be a LITTLE better. But they're not.
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Post by kapetan on Aug 15, 2008 1:08:13 GMT -5
El Kapetan - So then 40,000 of you guys vs 4000 of us, and we come out on top, really shows your fighting skills ;P Montenegro was conquered in 1496. Your terrain is what your advantage was obviosly.
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Post by sweetnugs on Aug 15, 2008 1:10:40 GMT -5
^ Perhaps you will understand Njegos' Istraga Poturica and Ratko Mladic's vengence in Srebrenica a little better now. prim·i·tive ˈprɪmɪtɪv/ Pronunciation[prim-i-tiv] –adjective - Not derived from something else; primary or basic. - Of or relating to an earliest or original stage or state; primeval. - Being little evolved from an early ancestral type. - Characterized by simplicity or crudity
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Post by terroreign on Aug 15, 2008 1:16:27 GMT -5
Not necessarily, the battle of Grahovac was fought on flat land, 7,000 Montenegrins defeated 13,000 turks.
Similar to the battle of Vuci Do, or Krusi
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Post by kapetan on Aug 15, 2008 1:18:21 GMT -5
Not necessarily, the battle of Grahovac was fought on flat land, 7,000 Montenegrins defeated 13,000 turks. Similar to the battle of Vuci Do, or Krusi Aka about the same amount of success anyone else had. Few you won, ultimately lost. Assisted by his state’s rugged terrain, Crnojevic turned back the raiders Mehmed sent against him during the 1450s, although a number of his regional tribal chieftains accepted Ottoman vassalage. After his death, his son Ivan Crnojevic (1465-90) swore vassalage to Mehmed in 1471, but that did not prevent the Ottomans from occupying large portions of his lands. When Ivan reneged on his tribute payments, Mehmed included an invasion of Montenegro in the massive assaults against Albania and its Venetian-held coastal cities that he dispatched in the years 1477 to 1479. Ivan was driven out and Mehmed annexed most of Montenegro.
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