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Post by Arxileas on Sept 27, 2008 19:37:52 GMT -5
Arxileas, those names are more or less the ones presented in your map... Well there is no way words from a map can be indexed by search engines for any results to come up, only foreigners claiming these little known tribes are the Albanians. Also doubt they were be spelled that way..... If any of you ever saw the archeologically findings, your in for a shock, don't play with fire kids. At your prior post. The only major groups existing in ancient times were the Greeks, Illyrians and the Thracians at least in this small Bulkan geographical region. And they were separate distinct groups. .
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 27, 2008 20:03:23 GMT -5
Abri and Dardanians can be translated in Albania (Albanians used to be called Arber)...can you translate me one of those tribes in Greek language?
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Post by Arxileas on Sept 27, 2008 20:25:29 GMT -5
teuta. It is beleived Dardanians began as Hellenes like the Encheleans but were assimilated from the Illyrian incursions. Thus are known Illyrians to historians now and used true barbaric ways and the fact that they were called Illyrians later on after the Illyrian incursions before that they were Hellenes.
Real point here is how are you related to the Illyrians ? There is no proof of this, only Albanian internet self declared historians.
I have yet to find any blow minding evidence, if you can proof this to us all we will leave you alone.
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 27, 2008 21:23:38 GMT -5
We lie where we lie. Can you find me any language in the world where Albanian language may have originated?
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 27, 2008 21:31:23 GMT -5
Can you find me a language in the world where the Inuit language originated from?
Even cavemen had a language... Do you think you are special because of what? Or maybe the countless Greek and Latin words that you borrowed?
Albanians haven't really been studied mainly because no one paid attention to you or felt it was necessary.
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 27, 2008 21:51:49 GMT -5
referring to the caveman...weren't those languages spoken in the places people used to live?
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Post by albquietman on Sept 27, 2008 23:12:55 GMT -5
They were spoken in Chios, the place where Kanaris came from
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 28, 2008 0:03:16 GMT -5
Not for nomadic cavemen.
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 28, 2008 0:15:42 GMT -5
Kanaris my friend,
if Romans spoke Latin and Italians today speak a variant of Latin, (Italian) and Greeks speak new Greek that is a little different from the old one, (and it was an Empire), why Albanians didn't speak this language long time ago and when they were occupied from Romans, Greeks and Slavs, added the borrowed words? Isn't this the very fact that proves the existence of Albanians since the old times...or...otherwise....how could they have borrowed the words from the old Greek and Latin? Isn't it a prove? You need historical and linguistic proves of Illyrians in connection with Albanians where there are two huge problems:
1. Illyrian language disappeared since was not a written language though I doubt it 2. Greeks wrote the history. And they wrote their history very nicely.
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 28, 2008 0:21:03 GMT -5
It may be so. In the end, the word Illyrian and Hellas have some similarities by the way, but would you be able to show me some evidences of this "invasion" of Illyrian tribes in "Bulkan"?
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 28, 2008 0:25:54 GMT -5
If the Greeks and the Turks share a bunch of words in the 400 years they were 'together' why couldn't the Albanians have done the same in that time span?
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Post by albquietman on Sept 28, 2008 0:27:30 GMT -5
I don't think Kanaris can digest the fact that we were where we are since ancient times. He has said that numerous times here in this forum that we are newcomers in Balkan. I don't think we as albanians have any problems with that, at least I don't, but I wanted to know from Kanaris, and I consider it as a favor, since I guess we all want to know our origins, to let us know, where we did come from? What's the name of that place on this planet? Tell us administrator...
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 28, 2008 0:28:42 GMT -5
The point with Albanians is how long is that length of time and where is the beginning...also, we know where did Turks originate...but not for Albanians. How is that possible such a migration (of Albanians) to have escaped Roman Empire and Greeks (Byzant?)
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 28, 2008 0:32:11 GMT -5
AlbQ,
I would also be more obliged if either Kanaris or Arxileas told me where we came from, how and why and why didn't we leave anything or anybody behind from the place we left...probably we came from Azerbayjan?
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Post by albquietman on Sept 28, 2008 0:48:31 GMT -5
We don't know that yet Teuta...Mars Rovers are still searching for signs of life in Mars...this statue in Mars might be albanian
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 28, 2008 0:52:45 GMT -5
I don't think Kanaris can digest the fact that we were where we are since ancient times. He has said that numerous times here in this forum that we are newcomers in Balkan. I don't think we as albanians have any problems with that, at least I don't, but I wanted to know from Kanaris, and I consider it as a favor, since I guess we all want to know our origins, to let us know, where we did come from? What's the name of that place on this planet? Tell us administrator... This is from Albania.com The question of the origin of the Albanians is still a matter of controversy among the ethnologists. A great many theories have been propounded in solution of the problem relative to the place from which the original settlers of Albania proceeded to their present home. The existence of another Albania in the Caucasus, the mystery in which the derivation of the name "Albania" is enshrouded, and which name, on the other hand, is unknown to her people, and the fact that history and legend afford no record of the arrival of the Albanians in the Balkan Peninsula, have rendered the question of their origin a particularly difficult one. Which goes on to say the next line ... What does " however that might be" mean? Believe us or we will hit you on the head? OR beleive us cause we got no answers? Until there is a viable solution to these questions... yes I will continue to have doubt. Albania.com
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Post by albquietman on Sept 28, 2008 0:56:48 GMT -5
I will continue to have doubt too Kanaris that you are greek...greeks are not red haired
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Post by Teuta1975 on Sept 28, 2008 0:58:36 GMT -5
So will I ...keep saying we are Illyrians Kanaris...
as long as there are not proves, there are no anti-proves it depends what we look for...the former or the latter...the latter is easier though
PS: why don't the honorable scholars connect it to Albany somewhere in Scotland if I am not wrong? Why with Kaukasus?
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Post by Kanaris on Sept 28, 2008 1:02:33 GMT -5
I will continue to have doubt too Kanaris that you are greek...greeks are not red haired I really don't care if I am originally Greek... sometimes I doubt that too.... what's in the heart that matters. We are not a race.... Greece was a stepping stone for all types of peoples... I am sure we have more than a few mutts. ;D
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Post by albquietman on Sept 28, 2008 1:11:23 GMT -5
That's a different story then Kanaris...if you feel greek, you are greek, and you have the right to feel so, no matter if you are or not (which I believe that you aren't). But on the other hand you are telling us that we albanians came form some other place, somewhere on this planet, because you don't know either, but and if that's true, don't we have the right to feel that we've been where we are today since ancient times? Is about feelings isn't it?
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