Post by Kassandros on Jun 22, 2008 5:50:07 GMT -5
Ethnic Macedonian party accuses Greek authorities of wiretapping
June 20, 2008
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Either the Americans provide information to the Greek Foreign and Interior Ministries or - which is more likely - the Greek Secret Service (EIP) is wiretapping the telephones of the Macedonian representatives in Greece.
How else can a strictly confidential document issued by the Greek media include even the tiniest details of the US Embassy officials' talks with representatives of the Macedonian and other minorities in Greece?
Specifically, Greek newspaper Proto Thema has exclusively reported that the US Consulate in Thessaloniki has undertaken activities to create a kind of Kosovo in Greece by using the Turkish and Macedonian minorities living in western Thrace and Greek Macedonia.The newspaper bases its claim on the Greek Secret Service's "strictly confidential" document, the fax copy of which has been published, too, revealing - as the newspaper puts it - the US plan to destabilize Thrace and Greek Macedonia and cause a crisis throughout Greece.According to the newspaper, the US moves indicate the existence of "an ulterior plan" to create a sort of Kosovo on Greece's northern border. It allegedly does not suit the United States for a big and powerful state to exist in the region, but it prefers several small and unstable states (such as Kosovo and Macedonia), which may be easily controlled and destabilized. The Proto Thema sources say that this is why over the past few months the United States has been rather active in Greece's north (Aegean Macedonia and Epirus) and east (Thrace), areas populated with Macedonian, Albanian, and Turkish minorities.
The Greek Intelligence Agency allegedly sent the document specified as "strictly confidential" to the Foreign Ministry on 19 May 2008 and then it was delivered to all Greek embassies in southeast Europe with the sign "only for personal information." According to Proto Thema, this indicates the Greek Government's serious concern. It warns of the moves of the employees at the US Consulate in Thessaloniki, who contacted the western Thrace Muslims' leaders on 14 May 2008, the leadership of Vinozito [Rainbow], the political party of the Macedonian minority in Greece, and other Greek citizens.
The letter to the Greek Secret Service reads, "On 14 May representatives of the US Consulate in Thessaloniki contacted Vinozito leader Pavle Vaskopoulos, seeking information on the number of EU parliamentarians taking part in the meeting on the topic of 'Unrecognized Minorities in Greece - Turks in Western Thrace and Macedonians,' which took place in the EU Parliament's hall on 17 April.
"The United States posed the same question to Athanasios Parisis, chairman of the Greek EBLUL [European Bureau for Lesser-Used Languages] Committee and a Vinozito member, as well, the very same day."
The US officials talked to several representatives of the Macedonian minority in Greece, who were Greek citizens. Moreover, the very same day US officials contacted prominent Komotini journalist Dede Abdulhalim, who publishes a Turkish-language newspaper. They were not interested merely in the present events, but also in developments from the recent and more distant past, or more precisely, the EU parliamentarians' 1994 election. For example, they asked Parisis how come that, according to the Greek Interior Ministry, they won only 1,139 votes in the election, whereas Vinozito said that they had won 6,136 votes, to which he replied that the difference in figures was due to the ministry taking into account only votes won in the Lerin region.
Nova Makedonija has contacted both Parisis and Vaskopoulos and they have said that the Greek Secret Service's issued document quotes precisely their telephone conversations with the US officials.
"I wonder how a telephone conversation with a US diplomat can be made public. Are they wiretapping our telephones, and who gives them the right to do so? Have they received this information from the US Consulate, and how can this be done? How can a newspaper publish such a 'top secret' letter sent to the Foreign Ministry, and what kind of game are they playing? We are not a secret terrorist organization or criminals. We do not want to be used as an instrument of a policy that opposes the Balkans' peace and stability, because we fight for the opposite - the Balkans' peace and integration," Parisis said.
Source: Nova Makedonija, daily newspaper
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I think that says is all. Its up to our Balkanian neighbors if they will try to follow the American plans.
If they follow the American plans... and that will be absolutely respected...... I dont want to hear EVEN ONE WORLD of what will happen to them after Yankees go home in 10-20-30 years! No copencation, no claims for property, no genocides stuff etc etc not all that bs that comes after the revenge will take place... as always happens.
Its your decision. For sure... be sure when you take it... and dont cry if you made a wrong one. You know the future... act as you wish. You may gain a beautiful house in Thessaloniki for free.... but be sure.... you son or you grandson will be found dead on the porch of that beatiful house when Yankees go home.
You decide....
June 20, 2008
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Either the Americans provide information to the Greek Foreign and Interior Ministries or - which is more likely - the Greek Secret Service (EIP) is wiretapping the telephones of the Macedonian representatives in Greece.
How else can a strictly confidential document issued by the Greek media include even the tiniest details of the US Embassy officials' talks with representatives of the Macedonian and other minorities in Greece?
Specifically, Greek newspaper Proto Thema has exclusively reported that the US Consulate in Thessaloniki has undertaken activities to create a kind of Kosovo in Greece by using the Turkish and Macedonian minorities living in western Thrace and Greek Macedonia.The newspaper bases its claim on the Greek Secret Service's "strictly confidential" document, the fax copy of which has been published, too, revealing - as the newspaper puts it - the US plan to destabilize Thrace and Greek Macedonia and cause a crisis throughout Greece.According to the newspaper, the US moves indicate the existence of "an ulterior plan" to create a sort of Kosovo on Greece's northern border. It allegedly does not suit the United States for a big and powerful state to exist in the region, but it prefers several small and unstable states (such as Kosovo and Macedonia), which may be easily controlled and destabilized. The Proto Thema sources say that this is why over the past few months the United States has been rather active in Greece's north (Aegean Macedonia and Epirus) and east (Thrace), areas populated with Macedonian, Albanian, and Turkish minorities.
The Greek Intelligence Agency allegedly sent the document specified as "strictly confidential" to the Foreign Ministry on 19 May 2008 and then it was delivered to all Greek embassies in southeast Europe with the sign "only for personal information." According to Proto Thema, this indicates the Greek Government's serious concern. It warns of the moves of the employees at the US Consulate in Thessaloniki, who contacted the western Thrace Muslims' leaders on 14 May 2008, the leadership of Vinozito [Rainbow], the political party of the Macedonian minority in Greece, and other Greek citizens.
The letter to the Greek Secret Service reads, "On 14 May representatives of the US Consulate in Thessaloniki contacted Vinozito leader Pavle Vaskopoulos, seeking information on the number of EU parliamentarians taking part in the meeting on the topic of 'Unrecognized Minorities in Greece - Turks in Western Thrace and Macedonians,' which took place in the EU Parliament's hall on 17 April.
"The United States posed the same question to Athanasios Parisis, chairman of the Greek EBLUL [European Bureau for Lesser-Used Languages] Committee and a Vinozito member, as well, the very same day."
The US officials talked to several representatives of the Macedonian minority in Greece, who were Greek citizens. Moreover, the very same day US officials contacted prominent Komotini journalist Dede Abdulhalim, who publishes a Turkish-language newspaper. They were not interested merely in the present events, but also in developments from the recent and more distant past, or more precisely, the EU parliamentarians' 1994 election. For example, they asked Parisis how come that, according to the Greek Interior Ministry, they won only 1,139 votes in the election, whereas Vinozito said that they had won 6,136 votes, to which he replied that the difference in figures was due to the ministry taking into account only votes won in the Lerin region.
Nova Makedonija has contacted both Parisis and Vaskopoulos and they have said that the Greek Secret Service's issued document quotes precisely their telephone conversations with the US officials.
"I wonder how a telephone conversation with a US diplomat can be made public. Are they wiretapping our telephones, and who gives them the right to do so? Have they received this information from the US Consulate, and how can this be done? How can a newspaper publish such a 'top secret' letter sent to the Foreign Ministry, and what kind of game are they playing? We are not a secret terrorist organization or criminals. We do not want to be used as an instrument of a policy that opposes the Balkans' peace and stability, because we fight for the opposite - the Balkans' peace and integration," Parisis said.
Source: Nova Makedonija, daily newspaper
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I think that says is all. Its up to our Balkanian neighbors if they will try to follow the American plans.
If they follow the American plans... and that will be absolutely respected...... I dont want to hear EVEN ONE WORLD of what will happen to them after Yankees go home in 10-20-30 years! No copencation, no claims for property, no genocides stuff etc etc not all that bs that comes after the revenge will take place... as always happens.
Its your decision. For sure... be sure when you take it... and dont cry if you made a wrong one. You know the future... act as you wish. You may gain a beautiful house in Thessaloniki for free.... but be sure.... you son or you grandson will be found dead on the porch of that beatiful house when Yankees go home.
You decide....