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Post by terroreign on Feb 2, 2008 2:13:07 GMT -5
And just in case anyone's wondering, AAdmin is falling off his rocker, unlike some I have the capacity to speak more than one language
Am I 'touchy' in the """FYROMian""" forum? Or am I just participating in discussion?
I actually ironically never been to """FYROM"""...XD
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Post by Kassandros on Feb 2, 2008 2:47:52 GMT -5
Terroreign "I don't really care about tito....I'm just playing the devil's advocate here...." -------------------------------------------------------------------------- the devil's advocate... is what Tito and commounist used to say in our case.
"Now lets make an example here basil, so you can understand what I'm talking about : Lets say you go to Albania and call yourself an Albanian and that you fight for Albanianism, but at the same time all of the Albanians tell you to f*ck off because you're not an Albanian. Are you still an Albanian? " ------------------------------------------------------------ I love examples! Lets play!
To answer your question.. no... you never was Albanian if that is the case.
Lets say, you are a Dorian (prooved!) and you win in the Olympic games where only Hellenic tribes have the right to participate, and you are participating with Spartans (Dorians), Korinthians(Achaians), Iones(Atheneans) and Epirots (Dorians).... but everybody hate eachother and they usually have wars between them... are you or you're not one among Hellenic tribes?
Another one now. Lets say you're Dorian.... and you're in war with Athens... and your dream is to conquer them.... then what are you? Option 1: Macedonian Option 2: Spartan Option 3: Epirot
Since they both were Dorians with the same dream... who's not Greek betwen these 3 tribes? How can you understand for which Dorians do we speak about?
Terroreign.... like it or not... there is nothign non-Greek on Macedonians. The major differences with Macedonians and Atheneans was the Kingdom against democracy and the pronounciation of "f" like "v" from Macedonians. The word Veronique was written from Atheneans and Macedonians as Feronique (bring victory) but was pronounced from Macedonians like Veronique. They used to say V where F was standing. And because only ONE Athenean said to King Fillip that he is barbarian... does not include ALL Atheneans nor that is the true. Its like me.. hating you... and tell you "you're as.shole" . Does this mean that ALL the members of these forum see you like and "as.shole" or that you're a really "as.shole" ? Its not something you can claim as evidence.. especially when that ONE was a public speaker what wanted to PROOVE to other Atheneans that King Fillip was barbarian. If he was barbarian... then no need to proove anything to anybody would be neccesesary.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 2, 2008 4:08:14 GMT -5
Phil-ippos (with double pp) = Philos of Ippos = (Friend of Horses)
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Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 2, 2008 8:02:12 GMT -5
"another brainfart sponsored by terroreign. thank you"
lol - tell him to bring up his steve hawkings illyrian gene map and tell him to explain to you that the albanians and montenegrins are the purest of illyrians.
If vardarians are seeking their rights then why can't the macedonians in vardar?
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Post by slowdent on Feb 2, 2008 13:21:44 GMT -5
Novi
i will not be surprised at all. certain alb member in the past claimed that illyrians were eating meat with potatoes.......
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 2, 2008 13:54:43 GMT -5
^ What are your thoughts on the human rights abuses on Greek Macedonians living in FYROM ? Can you understand what is spoken in Greek on that youtube ?
Your thoughts are appreciated.
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Post by Kassandros on Feb 2, 2008 15:15:07 GMT -5
There will be a huge surprise for Fyromian when and if they ever enter EU They dont even know what EU stands for... and they will be very dissapointed when they enter some day. The FIRST rule of EU is "freedom of speech"! That means when they enter EU, Macedonians and Vlachs can form instutes or ogranizations that can promote their culture openly. They can form political parties too where the 200,000 votes of them can be targeted. Greece had to apply that rule to "Rainbow Party". Fyromians were shouting that 2 million Macedonians were suppresed by Greeks and bla bla bla. Finally, Rainbow Party took.... 3,600 votes! lol lol We gave our test. Now its time for Fyromians to do so when the Macedonian Party will be formed by the Greeks of Fyrom and that will be the first time they will have the right to speak openly. That will have fun! lol lol The poor miserables... they dont even know what EU stands for.. and they want to enter! lol lol
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Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 2, 2008 19:06:14 GMT -5
"i will not be surprised at all. certain alb member in the past claimed that illyrians were eating meat with potatoes......"
LMAO - jesus christ almighty lol lol lol
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Post by terroreign on Feb 3, 2008 2:20:39 GMT -5
Ah novi, my map made more sense than yours
As far as that goes, there are 20 of them. And they live in the embassy.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 3, 2008 2:22:33 GMT -5
I remember slowdent claiming that greeks came from south america, namely columbia.
This shows you how deluted this man is.
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Post by slowdent on Feb 3, 2008 7:06:24 GMT -5
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Post by Kassandros on Feb 3, 2008 12:01:39 GMT -5
terroreign "As far as that goes, there are 20 of them. And they live in the embassy" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Terroreign there are Greeks in Albania, there are Greeks in Bulgaria, the are Greeks in Turkey, There are Greeks in Black Sea, the are Greeks in Italy etc etc.
Now the simple question; Dont you wonder how it comes and there are no Greeks at all, according the Fyromian gvnt., in Fyrom? So close.... and not even a small percentange? Isnt it weird? Just use your mind...
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Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 4, 2008 0:23:18 GMT -5
"Ah novi, my map made more sense than yours"
So a made up map of yours made more sense than a scientifically proven map?
You are a very low person.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 7, 2008 19:08:14 GMT -5
Here is most of it translated. Testimony from expatriate Nikos Konstantinidis from Resna of FYROM about the situation of the Greek community in the province of Pelagonia in the southern part of the country. How the Greeks of FYROM. are treated by the government there and from the official Greek government, which does not recognize them as Greeks. Firstly I am Nikos Konstantinidis. I was born in Monastiri and I live Resna city of province Pelagonias , that is located in the plateau of Big Prespas. = With origin with roots …With final origin of my ancestors. I am from Moschopoli Korytsas of North Ipiros, where they remained until the 2/9/1769 therefore afterwards the persecution under the weight of Ali Pasa Tepenlis, the Greek-vlachs moved to the plains of Pelagonia. = When did you begin to realise that you are Greek, that you have Greek roots?When I was about 15-16 years old, I realised that the names of my family, differ from the remainder slabofono environment of region of Skopje ... = And …I asked why we have such names… because our grandfathers had other names and surnames… = Your surname had changed ?Yes. On status of our dictator Tito they had changed the surname. Then they named us “Michailofski”. And from the knowledge that I had from my genealogical tree, I discovered that the older greek archetype of my surname is Konstantinidis and I changed it. = Skopians however claim minority of thousands in western (greek) Macedonia.
No. They do not have neither cultural identity, neither conscience of the “slavo-macedonian” nation. If you look at their surnames, it appears who are Bulgarians, who are Serbs, who are Greeks. Unity does not exist. In this wider area, in frontier near Greece, remnants exist that have Bulgarian conscience, that occasionally play head or tails that they are Citizens of the ancient Yougoslavian Republic of Macedonia or are financed by the ministry of foreign affairs of Turkey and make propaganda on behalf of Turkey.=In your region how many are you ?In the wider area of Pelagonias, we are over 100.000 Greek orthodox. The thing is that they do not allow us to use the Greek churches of our ancestors, they are kept by the separatist priests of Skopje. = Some movement so that the problem of Greeks of Pelagonias will be published ?I ask from each responsible Greek official, to protect my family, and me because we are in the foresight of secret services of Skopje. Because also my ancestors were four Macedonian fighters and I am a holder of the book of descendant of the Macedonian fighters, that was given to me ten years ago by the association of Macedonian fighters of Thessalonica. I am a clean Greek, Greek orthodox in the religion; I respect also the Hellenic church and the Ecumenical Patriarchate. We want the “Greek Community of Monastiri Pelagonias area, to be formed in order to protect our cultural heritage. See here for more; northmacedonians.blogspot.com/2008/02/document-greeks-in-fyrom.htmlI have to thank Akritas my fellow Greek Mod at network54 for this.
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Post by terroreign on Feb 7, 2008 20:16:50 GMT -5
Haha, is that guy for real? That's horrible...
But he did say himself that he is not native to the area anyways...
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Post by Novi Pazar on Feb 7, 2008 21:06:54 GMT -5
^ its not funny terro, its terrible!.....they arn't even allowed to worship like they did years ago!.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 7, 2008 22:11:40 GMT -5
terroreign don't be such a tool.
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Post by areianos on Feb 8, 2008 4:28:08 GMT -5
Please don't expect the weak and incompetent governments of Greece to protect their own people.
They have single handedly decimated the Greeks of Epirus without a fricken whimper.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 8, 2008 6:57:30 GMT -5
^ Can't argue there....
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Post by terroreign on Feb 9, 2008 2:53:19 GMT -5
"Michailofski" How come that's not even close to his "original" surname?
Usually in assimilating ethnic minorities, or changing last names, the ending is simply changed
So he'd end up like : Konstantinoski
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