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Post by Novi Pazar on Dec 23, 2007 21:44:50 GMT -5
"Will Serb's who once lived in Kosovo return after Serbia regains control of IT'S territory?"
I'm for that, the refugees do have a right to return to their properties, but the problem Dsurazal is that part of my family who originated from south western kosovo, for example, won't want to return to a region that is 100% ethnically Albanian....imagine the isolation or danger.
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Post by Mimi on Dec 24, 2007 6:27:48 GMT -5
HD: I predicted years ago that Russia would assist Serbia to get her land back. Not just Kosovo. I mean GREATER SERBIA. But you Kosovo Albos lving abroad are going to be able to see your family again when they get expelled from Kosovo - if you can sponsor them as refugees.
NP: HD, l'm confident that kosovo won't be independant, could be wrong. But l believe expelling is wrong and it will only then prove the wests initial propaganda spin. I would only target the KLA and anyone linked to them. HD, do u believe expulsion is a form of genocide? all i know that never with Serbia again, we are ready to give everything that we have to brek away from them, even our bodies and souls cuz we albanians are tired of being push around, serbia has cost us so much pain its painful to even say their name there just no way that we will ever give up and accept it, WE WILL NEVER FORGET! we will not rest untill kosovo gets its independent thats when we can really be happy again and move on
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Post by highduke on Dec 24, 2007 14:01:44 GMT -5
Mimi targetting the KLA and everybody linked to them necessarily means expulsion because Albanians are all linked to the KLA.
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Post by rex362 on Dec 24, 2007 14:17:54 GMT -5
Hajdut ...we Albs have been liberation army since 600ad
WHAT !!! .....you think we gonna let you waltz in and rape people of their lives
serbian colonization is dead
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Post by greekslav on Dec 24, 2007 17:49:21 GMT -5
No Albanians will be kicked out of Kosovo. Guaranteed.
I have seen what the Serbs had done to the Albanians in Kosovo for two whole years (1991-1992). It was disgusting and I would never wish the ugly sights on anyone.
I know many Kosovars living in America. They all have the same reason for immigranting out of Kosovo. And that is to get away from the heavy Serbian boot on them, keeping them down and in poverty.
Albania forum moderators: Do you consider this thread trolling? I do because it stresses that Serbia WILL take Kosovo back. And it implies that this will be done by force. Consider closing this thread.
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Post by Mimi on Dec 24, 2007 19:48:57 GMT -5
No Albanians will be kicked out of Kosovo. Guaranteed. I have seen what the Serbs had done to the Albanians in Kosovo for two whole years (1990-1991). It was disgusting and I would never wish the ugly sights on anyone. I know many Kosovars living in America. They all have the same reason for immigranting out of Kosovo. And that is to get away from the heavy Serbian boot on them, keeping them down and in poverty. Albania forum moderators: Do you consider this thread trolling? I do because it stresses that Serbia WILL take Kosovo back. And it implies that this will be done by force. Consider closing this thread. THANK YOU GREEKSLAV! ...at leased one greek that understand what we have been through you see what they are about greekslav? they would kick us out anytime and anyday if they had the chance but we cannot let that happen.
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Post by donnie on Dec 25, 2007 13:19:51 GMT -5
donnie: They don't contradict themselves. It's called 'diplomacy' and that means knowing what to say or what not to say and when. You don't go infront of the UN and announce war. It's called "barking like a desperate dog". Serbian officials threaten with war -- the next day, some other officials dement what has been said. It is like saying; 'there might be troubles if you let Kosova seceede, so please be on the safe side'. Truth is, Serbia is in no position to militarily engage KFOR and Nato. We saw the results in 1999; total humiliation. The economical sanctions intensified the humiliation; Serbs themselves betrayed and handed over the very man or "hero" (Slobodan Milosevic) to Hague without hesitation. Likewise, Russia has already achieved its goal with this whole ordeal; its reassertion as a global player. It marked the line that the US and EU can no longer trample over here as if nothing. For that sake, it does not mean it will risk everything it has achieved for its tiny 'brother' Serbia. Nor will any supplies in weaponry change the inevitable outcome of a hypothetical conflict between the democratic West and a fascist Serbia. P:s What are your predictions about the upcoming elections in Serbia? Will the Radicals score a victory and drag Serbia into deeper sh*t than ever? Are Serbs trully that thickheaded? How about Haradinaj vs Seselj; who is most likely to be acquitted in the Hague Tribunal? I know, unfair questions ... as unfair as yours is unrealistic!
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Post by donnie on Dec 25, 2007 13:35:33 GMT -5
Mimi targetting the KLA and everybody linked to them necessarily means expulsion because Albanians are all linked to the KLA. If all Albanians are linked to KLA, it is very much because of you; this was obviously not the case some years ago, even during the war. During the fighting period of 1998-99, the LDK with its intellectual leadership (Rugova, Agani) continued maintaining a pacifist approach to the conflict. Despite this, Serbs did not hesitate to execute Fehmi Agani as if nothing. The man was against the usage of violence, against KLA methods. The root of the problem lies in your outdated NAZI mentality which will continue to manure the wrecked reputation you have. A reputation as narrow-minded nationalists in a never ending endeavour to create an artificial Greater Serbia and cleanse the non-Serbian elements through a combination of physical annihilation, expulsions and forceful assimilation. It pains me (just joking; not really) that you're holding onto such dead dreams; they're as likely to occur as my left testicle is to be reincarnated as tsar Dusan. You Serbs had your chance in the 1920s and 1930s. You were quite successful initially after major kachak leaders were assasinated and the danger for usurping colonists getting what was coming eliminated. But World War Two intervened. One might call the ethnic cleansings of 1998-99 Serbia's "last chance" to achieve highduke's ambitions. I would not go so far. This was a different time; people were sick of your Hitlerian methods. On the contrary, during the first half of the twentieth century, pseudo-scientific fields were dominated by people much alike you with similiar ideas (Mussolini, Hitler, Nedic, Antonescu). Fascism wasn't a taboo. And you had your chance ... now, not even your 'brothers', the crnogorci, want to be part of your more and more petite country. P:s I cannot help but imagine you singing 'ko to kaze, ko to laze, Srbija je mala' (who says, who lies, that Serbia is small) with a poster of Serbia like Nokia behinc you hanged in a wall. The irony ...
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Post by jerryspringer on Dec 25, 2007 21:09:48 GMT -5
There are plenty of Albanians manifesting similar Fascistic ideals.
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Post by greekslav on Dec 26, 2007 0:42:59 GMT -5
The Serbs that I have seen in 90-91 know all too well what they have done. Yet you have supporters that use big words to justify their actions. There is no justification for all they have done to a defenseless people. The Serbs made sure the Kosovars had nothing. So how could they protect themselves?
One of the worst things I and my compatriots had seen was a Serbian pig trying to rape a 14 year old Albanian girl while his unit watched. Luckily we were able to stop them. Sadly, we were not able to stop the countless thousands more that were raped.
Teuta is right. Those that have seen what the Serbs had done will protect Kosovo and help them win their independence.
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Post by Georgios Kastriotis on Dec 26, 2007 8:54:04 GMT -5
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Post by donnie on Dec 26, 2007 8:54:33 GMT -5
There are plenty of Albanians manifesting similar Fascistic ideals. Yet the difference is that the Serbs have not just displayed fascist ideals, but also realized them institutionally, just like highduke is preaching. The examples I used earlier suffice to illustrate what I mean. And even now, the Radicals, a fascist party threatening with war, dominate Serbian politics. Are you done deepthroating highduke now Anittas?
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Post by srbobran on Dec 26, 2007 12:05:13 GMT -5
A grand total of 2,000 people (including Serbs, Albanians, civilians, and soldiers) were killed during the war.
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Post by donnie on Dec 28, 2007 10:38:34 GMT -5
A grand total of 2,000 people (including Serbs, Albanians, civilians, and soldiers) were killed during the war. Wrong. Firstly, when speaking of human casualties in Kosova during the war 1998-99, don't speak of Albanians and Serbs in the same sentence, let alone put the Serbs before the Albanians. That's an indirect attempt of trying to say that human casualties were evenly distributed along ethnic lines, Serbs perhaps even accounting for the highest number, which is hogwash. Albanians clearly suffered the highest amount of human casualties during the war. Secondly, the figure of found and identified corpses amounts over 3,000 victims -- higher than the preposterous figure you try to present as the total toll of killed people. Well over 2,000 of these are Albanian; the rest are Serbs (some 600 victims -- some died as a result of Nato miscalculations), Gypsies and others. Besides these, there is an additional figure of nearly 4,000 "missing" victims; people who most probably are dead. There are still massgraves in Serbia, and bodies are still recovered and identified as of yet. Just recently some 11 corpses found in a massgrave in southcentral Kosova were reburied in Mitrovica. Get your facts straight.
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Post by vinjak on Dec 28, 2007 21:24:55 GMT -5
One of the worst things I and my compatriots had seen was a Serbian pig trying to rape a 14 year old Albanian girl while his unit watched. Luckily we were able to stop them. Sadly, we were not able to stop the countless thousands more that were raped.
Where did you see this pig ? and how did you and your compatriots manage to stop them ?
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Post by greekslav on Dec 31, 2007 1:21:01 GMT -5
Near the border to Macedonia. The Serbs tried to make us believe that the border had miraculously moved south. We were simply on patrol keeping an eye out when we surprised the pig and his piglets. They were simply drunk, noisy and outnumbered. They knew who we were and was in no position to start trouble with us.
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Post by vinjak on Jan 1, 2008 17:07:08 GMT -5
WOw ok Just some questions if you dont mind as I have some knowledge of whos units where stationed around the area you are talking about. I wont be rude and ask what unit you where with but, What town are you talking about ? and this incident you mention that was happening what was the aftermath did you report it to your Senior officer and what was his response and what actions where taken. Thanks in advance
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Post by vinjak on Jan 4, 2008 16:55:43 GMT -5
Hehehehe I didnt think there would be a answer as you really dont know do you ?
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But just in case I have made an error and called you a LIAR I would like to ask you one simple question answer this and I will appolagize to you. The T55 was the standard what arrived via the Macedonian boarder accompanied by a new unit ? You should know this as your police where all over it taking pictures for NATO.
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Post by greekslav on Jan 5, 2008 16:54:25 GMT -5
Have you ever been in the military?
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Post by vinjak on Jan 6, 2008 2:10:53 GMT -5
Yes
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