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Post by wbb on Oct 18, 2008 5:13:02 GMT -5
i say yes, but not the whole region, just the northern hungarian majority part, we dont care or need serb majority part, they can have it as a gift , but we are angry about the northern part like Zenta, Subotica,etc,etc, these are very important hungarian majority area that should go back to hungary. Srem-Mitrovica area can either be independent like montenegro or stay part of Serbia, the real serbia. I would prefare Serbs to get Srpska, get all the serbs in vojvodina and re-migrate them to Srpska then Srpska unite with Serbia actual and i think that's about it. bs, are u serious about this Vinjak? why not join us, nothing can stop u from being hungarian, look at Petofi (real name Petrovic), a serb who converted Hungarian, a great man, a great poet. it's a free world, be what u wannabe. hmm i think there's more change for hungarians to kick ur arse when u dont give back Madarska Vojvodina, wouldnt u recon Srbobran, dont forget world war 2, small hungary still had the balls to attack serbia and took vojvodina.
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 18, 2008 5:49:33 GMT -5
hmm i think there's more change for hungarians to kick ur arse when u dont give back Madarska Vojvodina, wouldnt u recon Srbobran, dont forget world war 2, small hungary still had the balls to attack serbia and took vojvodina. ...with the help of Germany, Italy, Romania and Bulgaria. If that was the greatest military victory of the Magyars then its a wonder that Hungary still exists as a separate entity.
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Post by yeni on Oct 18, 2008 10:32:40 GMT -5
actually this is a popular misconception and many Huns know this incorrectly too. Thats true Petõfi's original name was Petrovics, a south slavic name, but his father's side is originated from the Felvidék (todays Slovakia), their family tree can be traced back there to the 17th century. and they were Lutherans (it was most popular among Slovaks and Germans though in the 16th century it also spread among Huns and Croats (the Cro/Hun national hero Nikola Subic Zrinski/Zrínyi Miklós was also Lutheran) while i think reformation had no effect among Serbs. Petõfi's father already spoke Hungarian that was his mother tongue. So its more likely that Petõfi's paternal ancestors were originally Croats , many of them migrated to the Felvidék during the Ottoman wars (like the current Slovak president's ancestors). Then those Croats assimilated to the Slovaks or to the Hungarians. And Petõfi's mother was also Slovak origin. So in short Petõfi was not Serb.
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Post by wbb on Oct 19, 2008 3:55:58 GMT -5
hah give me a break deaucon, dream on with ur serbian superiority over hungary. Serbia never been superior to hungary, serbia only succeeded beating hungary with the help of slovene,croats and muslims = Yugoslavs and ur precious allies. At that time hungary was already surrendered and face major disasters back home, revolution for example, there wasnt enough army to fight against ur good for nothing south slav coalition forces, so basically hungary wasnt ready to fight another war, just think about that when hungary was ready to fight against serbs and without ur ally? serbia would suffer a huge disaster. That was a only major reason Yugoslavia had been created and ur allies supported it, to make hungary weak and to halt hungarian colonialism into balkans, but without yugoslavia, serbia would be part of hungary till present day, and serbian nationalism would have been abolished long then, so better thank ur american friend to help u survive even when serbia lost kosova, that a minimum u can do. and no, Germany, Italy didnt help hungary at all, hungary was in vojvodina most notably Bacska region by themselves, while germany and italy was worrying about keeping Croatia-Bosnia under their control and fighting the yugoslav partisan, yes germany and italy did gave hungary military equipment but that's about it, hungary does every work themselves.
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 19, 2008 4:16:56 GMT -5
Magyars did nothing save massacring civilians... all the fighting was done by the Germans and Italians (because all others were crap fighters... even the Italians weren't that good) while their puppets reaped the rewards. Anyone that knows even basic WW2 history can see that.
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Post by malsor4life on Oct 19, 2008 5:43:24 GMT -5
Wasnt there a genocide by Serbs on Hungarians in Vojvodina at the tail-end of the war ?
A Hungarian guy told me that.
How many were killed ?
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 19, 2008 5:54:54 GMT -5
Wasnt there a genocide by Serbs on Hungarians in Vojvodina at the tail-end of the war ? Nope. A Hungarian guy told me that. He was lying or propagating rumours.
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Post by yeni on Oct 19, 2008 10:17:37 GMT -5
Wasnt there a genocide by Serbs on Hungarians in Vojvodina at the tail-end of the war ? A Hungarian guy told me that. How many were killed ? around 30-40,000 ppl. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1944-1945_Killings_in_Ba%C4%8Dkawww.hungarian-history.hu/lib/cseres/index.htm1. column name of the settlement, 2. Serb resistants killed when the Hungarian forces occupied the territory, 3. ppl Died during internation between 1941-44, 4. ppl died in the counter intelligence hq in Novi Sad/Újvidék, 5. ppl executed during the raids in 1942, 6. total number of victims between 1941-1944 (under Hun occupation), 7. the massacred Hungarians by the Serb/partisan revenge 8. notes összesen=total memorial in Subotica/Szabadka for the massacre.
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 19, 2008 10:33:56 GMT -5
As you can see from the sources Yeni posted, the crimes were committed by the Yugoslav Communists and the Red Army... not Serbs.
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Post by srbobran on Oct 19, 2008 11:36:08 GMT -5
Well, 1711, Kuruc War, Serbs fought the Hungarians alone and defeated you. In 1848, Hungarians got the whipping of their lives from the Serbian militia in Vojvodina. Hell, back in 1526, it took four huge attacks for Hungary to defeat the badly outnumbered rogue Serbian noble, Jovan Nenad.
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Post by yeni on Oct 19, 2008 11:51:32 GMT -5
Well, 1711, Kuruc War, Serbs fought the Hungarians alone and defeated you. In 1848, Hungarians got the whipping of their lives from the Serbian militia in Vojvodina. Hell, back in 1526, it took four huge attacks for Hungary to defeat the badly outnumbered rogue Serbian noble, Jovan Nenad. During the Rakoczi war of independence (1703-1711) the kuruc fought against Austrian Germans, pro Habsburg Hungarians ( labanc), Serbs, Croats, Transylvanian Saxons, not Serbs alone. in 1848-49, we fought against Austrians, Croats, Serbs, Romanians but this wasn't enough, the Habsburgs needed Russian intervention forces too to defeat us if no Russian agression, we would win... the fights with Jovan Nenad was in 1527, in 1526 the battle of Mohacs happened, u know when Ottomans crushed the Hun army killed the Hun king and the country fell 2 parts (Habsburg and Szapolyai).
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Post by wbb on Oct 20, 2008 1:03:14 GMT -5
hah, magyar army was busy fighting the russians with most of their army, if it wasnt for russian front then hungarian army would have wiped out all aggression that was coming from the yugoslav partisan, mostly serbs. magyar army was better than italian except the numbers, italians didnt know how to fight at all, they were just singing and singing opera music while in frontline and they lost their concentration on battles. Hungarians on the other hand was taking war so seriously, they cant accept the defeat and suffering they had with previous wars, they were fighting like a real mujahideens, they only go for the hearts. again like i was mentioning Deucaon about serbs fighting hungarians while hungarians was busy fighting someone else, all your comment has the same thing, serbs only attack while hungarians busy fighting someone else, in reality serbs cant fight hungarians in one on one, serb can only fight when some bigger nations fight with them against hungarians, get ur facts right, sorry but that how the world goes habib!!!.
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Post by sweetnugs on Oct 20, 2008 1:57:59 GMT -5
As you can see from the sources Yeni posted, the crimes were committed by the Yugoslav Communists and the Red Army... not Serbs. Yeah..right, next you'll say that it was Bosniacs and Croats who also did that, but heavens no.. not Serbs. Anyone but them. Your denial is sickening.
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 20, 2008 9:20:08 GMT -5
Yeah..right, next you'll say that it was Bosniacs and Croats who also did that, but heavens no.. not Serbs. Anyone but them. No... Commies don't consider themselves to be any ethnicity because if they did then they wouldn't be Commies. Thus this wasn't committed by Serbs, Muslims or Croats but by Communists. Your denial is sickening. I'm not denying anything save false propaganda. Crimes were committed but not by Serbs.
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Nov 4, 2008 6:05:59 GMT -5
typical of Serbs to deny genocide.....
"Princip, the official newspaper in Voivodina wrote the following on September 22, 1922:
"The eradication of the Hungarian race is the foremost task of the Slavs awakened after the war. In the course of a few decades, the tiny Hungarian oasis must be occupied with a systematic and aggressive Slav imperialist policy. Hungary must vanish from the map of Europe. The fate of minorities should not be a problem for Europe, because Europe can be consolidated only by the strengthening of national,
three "Cold Days" were followed by "freezing weeks" in the whole territory of VOJVODINA in 1944, when the Serbians brutally massacred about 40,000 Hungarian civilians, the overwhelming majority of them innocent beyond any doubt.
Serbia is very small now, hopefully it'll get even smaller like Slovenia. You people got what you deserve.
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Post by SKORIC on Nov 4, 2008 8:42:47 GMT -5
We are the SERBS we'll fuck your mothers, we'll fuck your sisters, we'll fuck your daughters, we'll fuck your dogs, we are the SERBS we'll ruin your country, we'll burn your city, we'll bomb your lands, We'll kill you ALL!
We are the nazi's we are the reds we are the monsters we'll fuck your dogs.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Nov 4, 2008 8:48:44 GMT -5
We are the SERBS we'll f**k your mothers, we'll f**k your sisters, we'll f**k your daughters, we'll f**k your dogs, we are the SERBS we'll ruin your country, we'll burn your city, we'll bomb your lands, We'll kill you ALL! We are the nazi's we are the reds we are the monsters we'll f uk your dogs. For the case of hungary, the song should go "... we are the Serbs. we will f uck your wh0res (for free)..." lol
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Post by szorostalpu1 on Nov 4, 2008 9:03:56 GMT -5
Don't you damn kuracs know anything?....the song goes.
We are serbs...we f*ck "our" mothers "our" sisters and "our" dogs. lol buta svinje
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Post by SKORIC on Nov 4, 2008 9:14:53 GMT -5
Nah sorry you're mistaken buddy. But thats pretty clever of you to change the "your" into "our". Very very sneaky you bad boy
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Nov 4, 2008 9:19:22 GMT -5
Don't you damn kuracs know anything?....the song goes. We are serbs...we f*ck "our" mothers "our" sisters and "our" dogs. lol buta svinje hey is Cassandra Wilde your sister?
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