Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 15, 2008 3:31:36 GMT -5
pjerdhosh you are a paranoid schizophren and funny, tipycall greek malakas acting, listen pidhosh when my ancestors liberatet your country you and your gypso family (like most others) were in Asia Minor and Sirya. We came from Minor Asia or Syria? I clear indication of your credibility. Needless to say more. (gamiola-dardana, sou gamo thn kolara)
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 15, 2008 3:35:03 GMT -5
it dependes how you define vlachs. In greece, vlach is the latin speaker. Vlach is remotely mutually comprehensible with Catalan in Spain (and of course romanian). huahuahuaha ;D this guy is very stupid...but Vllach living outside of Greece what language have? Jamacian? this guy is very illiterate ;D a useless little nobody cant touch me.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 15, 2008 3:35:32 GMT -5
pjerdhosh you are a paranoid schizophren and funny, tipycall greek malakas acting, listen pidhosh when my ancestors liberatet your country you and your gypso family (like most others) were in Asia Minor and Sirya. We came from Minor Asia or Syria? I clear indication of your credibility. Needless to say more. (gamiola-dardana, sou gamo thn kolara) Yes you camed from Asia Minor 1923-1927 and established in Peleponese (where Arvanites-Albanians were Majority)...it is reason why you hate Albanians because you are newcomer in Peleponese and Albanains-Arvanites lived there at least 800 years. more 60% of today greeks have origin from Asia Minor who camed in XX Century.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 15, 2008 3:38:08 GMT -5
We came from Minor Asia or Syria? I clear indication of your credibility. Needless to say more. (gamiola-dardana, sou gamo thn kolara) Yes you camed from Asia Minor 1923-1927 and established in Peleponese (where Arvanites-Albanians were Majority). more 60% of today greeks have origin from Asia Minor who camed in XX Century. THE GUY HAS A PROBLEM!!!! Do you wanna show to you my dead grandpa ID? Also our house was built in 1890+ How can we be from Minor Asia. Dardana, as a friend, why dont you take some time off. I am not necessarily implying seeing a doctor, just have your mind rest. It clearly cant take much effort.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 15, 2008 3:41:39 GMT -5
ok there had too many migration from Asia Minor after Indepedence of Greece, if you did'nt camed in XX Century, your family arrived in XIX Century (you won more 1 century).
Yes can you show your grandpa ID ? and what is your tribes? (dont lie)
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Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 15, 2008 3:48:11 GMT -5
My dear, friend, I can assure you, all my family up to now, is from Epiros (Giannena). The refugees came after 1922, from Ionia, where they have lived for almost 2700 years, and from Pontos.
As to your question "what is my tribes", i really cant understand, .... my tribes!! i dont OWN any tribes!
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 15, 2008 4:41:40 GMT -5
of course you dont have tribes
anyway how you know that you are greek where are you basing? only bacause you speaking greek?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 15, 2008 5:31:17 GMT -5
of course you dont have tribes anyway how you know that you are greek where are you basing? only bacause you speaking greek? only because i want to. there are no "greek", latin, slav, german certificate authorities that can label someone a pure something. (and definately not ..... illirian, which left to civilazation)
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 15, 2008 20:54:56 GMT -5
The Turks reorganized their (Albanian troops) troops then drove the Austrians out of the Balkans. In the great migration of the 1690, caused by the retaliation on Serbian population "looking neither for the write nor for the wrong, but all under the saber they sent", 37 000 Serb families to Vojvodina led by the patriarch Arsenije III Carnojevic. At the time the Serbs formed the majority of the population (of Kosovo).
Tim Juddah
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 15, 2008 20:55:59 GMT -5
During the Turkish occupation, the Serbs were pushed to the north and west of Kosovo and gradually Albanians from the neighboring state emigrated to areas the Serbs had left, Miller explained. Miller said, "there were incidents where the Serb population was mistreated by the Albanian majority".
Article
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 16, 2008 0:38:00 GMT -5
i dont see link just propaganda of serbs...
The Roots of Serbian Mythology
some historical facts for those who beleive in mythology
* The seat of the Serbian Orthodox Church was not founded in Kosovo; it merely moved there after its original foundation (in central Serbia) was burnt down. Nor does the Patriarchate have any continuous history as an institution: it was recreated by the modern Yugoslav state in 1920 (having been defunct for 154 years), and since that date the Patriarch has tended to reside mainly in Belgrade. (In emulation of Jewish nationalism, as expressed by Zionism, the Serb nationalists claim that Kosovo is the 'Jerusalem' of the Serbs. This claim is belied by the fact that in no form of Christianity, including Eastern Orthodoxy, does a 'holy place' play any sort of theological role equivalent to the role of Jerusalem in the theology of Judaism.)
* As for Serbian Empire,this was a medieval starte wich had his origins not in Kosovo but in Rascia,aera beyond Kosovo's north-west borders and most important early medieval Serbian monasteries and churches were build outside Kosovo itself.(Studenica monastery)
* One Historical -demographic myth wich enjoyed great power in late nineteen century was the idea that most of the Albanians were "really" Slavs;wile it is true ethnic identities have always been fluid to some wxtend,this claim is simply not justyfied by the historical evidence
*Another Myth has grown up around "Great Migration" of Serbs 1690 wich alleged created a demographic vacuum,subsequently filled by a flood of alien Albanians from outside Kosovo.A closer study the evidevence presented that, although were heavy looses in 1690 affectin all categories of population,most aspects of "Great Migration" are fanciful.And the evidence also suggest that ,wile there was a steady flow of Albanians"demographic" growth there was the expansion of indigenus Albanian population within Kosovo itself
* Edith Durham, who knew the region well and witnessed the effects of Serb-Montenegrin conquest of Kosovo in 1912,later recalled a characteristic exchange." I once pointed out to a Serb schoolmaster that we had held Calais at the same time but not give us the right to it".He replied " Why not? You have a fleet?"
In March 1920, Durham wrote to Seton-Watson complaining about what she saw as a pro-Serb bias in The New Europe and accusing the editors of wilfully ignoring the Albanians of Montenegro and Kosovo:
"I have recent information that ever since the armistice the Serbs have burnt and pillaged Albanian villages, Catholic as well as Moslem. But New Europe, I know, would deny any such charge and imply the informant was a liar. If the truth is thus concealed, what wonder that things go wrong?"
* The roots of today's conflict are traced to the nineteenth-century Serbian ideology, which created a cult of the medieval battle of Kosovo as some sort of nationally-defining historical and spiritual event. This may well be related to the rapid transformations that took place in Europe at the time including the rise of nationalism. The mass-expulsion of Albanians and other Muslims from the areas conquered by Serbia and Montenegro in 1877-8 played a part in persuading the Albanians in Kosovo that Serbia - and the Serbs of Kosovo who were claimed as an unredeemed part of the Serbian population - represented a threat to their existence. The Albanians perceived Serbian-Montenegrin rule (and its re-imposition as Yugoslav rule in 1918) as a foreign colonial rule similar to that imposed on many other peoples conquered and colonised by European Christian powers. Just as the French did in Algeria and the Russians in Chechenia, the Serbs embarked on an explicit programme of introducing Serb colonists to Kosovo throughout the inter-war period.
* As for the supposedly long history of ethnic conflict, have been many battles and wars in Kosovo over the centuries, but until the last 100 years or so none of them had the character of an ethnic conflict between Albanians and Serbs. Members of those two populations fought together as allies at the battle of Kosovo in 1389 - indeed, they probably fought as allies on both sides of that battle, some of them under Prince Lazar and others under the Ottoman Sultan. Three hundred years later, when an Austrian army invaded Kosovo, both Serbs and Albanians (including even Muslim ones) rose up in sympathy to throw off Ottoman rule. A later rebellion in support of another Austrian invasion in 1737 also involved a mixed Albanian-Slav group from the mountain areas of northern Albania and Montenegro: the Slav and Albanian mountain clans there had long traditions of cooperation and intermarriage, and, in some cases, legends of common ancestry. And over many centuries in Kosovo the ethnic divisions between Serbs and Albanians were never entirely clear-cut. There was ethnic-linguistic assimilation in both directions; and enough of a shared way of life was established for the Serbian colonists who arrived in Kosovo in the 1920s to feel that the long-established local Serbs were almost as foreign to them in some of their practices as the alien Albanians.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 16, 2008 1:13:56 GMT -5
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 16, 2008 1:45:02 GMT -5
^ Dr. Kaplan Resuli:
On the territory of today's Albania, as has already been confirmed by the most distinguished world scholars, from whom I have already mentioned some, first settled the Slavs. In 548 A.D., they enter also in Durrachium. The Albanians come via Transylvania (Romania) and Bulgaria much later, IX-X century. In the meantime, understandably, the Slavs have already named all mountains, valleys, rivers, towns and villages, and built some new ones, giving them their own names.
When the Albanians arrive on the Balkan and today¹s Albania, there is nothing else they can do except to take those toponyms. A large part of Albania is flooded with Serbian and Macedonian toponyms. Just as an example, I wish to mention the towns of Pogradec, Kor?a (Korcha), (Chorovoda), Berat, Bozigrad, Leskovik, Voskopoja, Kuzova, Kelcira, Bels and others.
Already in 1995 at the University of Skopje, it became clear to me that there will not be peace on the Balkan until the Albanian question is clarified. For that reason I switched rom the law faculty to the albanological studies and here, contrary to what was being said and written not only by the Albanian, but also by our, Yugoslavian scholars, contrary to what is being taught not only in the Albanian language schools (in Albania, as well as in Macedonia), but also in the schools of ³south-slavic² languages, I discovered that not only the Albanians are not autochthonous people, but they are also not related in any way to the Pelasgians or the Illyrians. Understandably, not one of the professors in Albanology has said this to me. They continued with the tale that allegedly Albanians are autochthonous Pelasgoillyrian descendants.
I discovered that by chance, studying the Albanian language, which, all agree, is of the type SATEM. According to that global division of languages, researching the Illyrian language I discovered that it is of the type KENTUM. The most elementary logic was saying to me that one SATEM language can not be a direct descendant, not even a kind of derivative of some KENTUM language, without a change of its substrate.
Since the Albanian language does not have any changes in its substrate, that means that the Albanians can¹t be, under any circumstance, genealogical descendants of the Illyrians. Later I discovered this, as well, in the works of the world renown professors and scholars... Paul, Hirt, Vaigand, Tomashek, Georgiev, Pushcariu
...and many others, who with numerous scholarly arguments, linguistic and historical, have proven that the Albanians not only do not have anything in common with the Illyrians, not only that they are not autochthonous at any place in the Balkan, but they are not even autochthonous in the territories of modern day Albania.
Vaigand for example has formulated 12 arguments. To all of those I've added another five. Unfortunately, these scientists are not being mentioned in (the study) Albanology, nor in Albania, nor are they mentioned in Yugoslavia, or in Macedonia, because the Albanian professors consciously hide the truth about the origins of the Albanians and, instead of (the truth), to their pupils and students they serve up the lies about their autochthony and Illyrian origin.
Via those lies, they poison the whole nation. This is not done accidentally, but with the aim to incite the Albanians against the neighbouring nations, thus, hooking them on the ³fishing line² of some invented, wide ethnic territories, to use them as cannon fodder for the interests of some criminalised leaders and the international Capital.
The primary motive that inspired me to oppose the Albanian pseudo science about their Illyrian origin was the truth, the love for the truth, my special inclination towards it, but second and equally as important motive was the fact that, watching the Albanians being breast-fed with chauvinism and racism, are being encouraged to fight their neighbouring peoples (nations), I was hoping that if the truth is explained to them, they will move away from the tales, legends and myths about their autochthony and illyrom, thus ceasing with their inexcusable and baseless hatred towards their neighbours.
Since in the publication ³YLBERI² (comes out since 1993, in Geneva) and especially through my albanological collection THE ILLYRIANS AND THE ALBANIANS I demonstrated in written form my points of view, the Albanian academic Vincent Golleti, in the printed media stated: "The stances of Kaplan Burovich about the albanological problems, especially on the problem of the origin of the Albanians, need to be greeted most warmly, while the studies which he publishes in relation with those problems should be propagated throughout the whole of the scholarly world".
After him followed the Albanian scholar Dr. Adrian Qosi who in the middle of Tirana openly opposed the hypothesis about the Illyrian origin of the Albanians. With me agreed, via the printed media, several other younger scholars of whom I would especially mention Fatos Lubonja, Prof. Adrian Vebiu and others.
I can say that today appear a group of new Albanian scholars who do not agree with the false myths and courageously accept the scientific truth. I am proud that I lead this group and that they took up from me the necessary scholarly courage. Because, believe me, that is not easy at all, as the extreme Albanian nationalists, chauvinists and racists led by Ismail Kadare, through the most severe forms of chicanery and satanising are attempting to silence us at any cost.
They mentioned Dr Adrian Qosi when he stated that the hypothesis for the Illyrian origin of the Albanians is unfounded, added: ³But it is better not to talk about that because they will declare us anti-Albanians². And they did.
SERBS, CROATS OPEN FIRST SCHOOLS IN ALBANIA:
The oldest evidenced text in an Albanian language is "Formula paleximit" (Formula for communion), translated from Latin in 8-11-1462 by the Serb Pavle Angelic, whom the Albanians have albanised with the name Pal Engjylli. The first book in Albanian is ³Meshari² (The Book of Thoughts), a manual for religious sermons, dates from 1555 and is written by the Croatian Ivan Buzuk and published in Montenegro. And, understandably, they albanise him with the name Gjon Buzuku. For your information, the first primer in Albanian, after the proclamation of the Albanian independence is a work of ³Slavs² and Vlachs. Dositej Obradovich is the first in history who opens a school in Albanian language, while it was exactly Serbia, which was the first state to recognise independent Albania.
MACEDONIANS DEVELOP CULTURE IN ALBANIA:
The Macedonians have a significant input in the development of the Albanian culture. For example, one of the oldest publishers in Albania is the Macedonian Petar Budi (1566-1622) who has published three books in Albanian, and also a Macedonian is Jovan Kukuzel, whom the Albanians have claimed as their own and have albanised with the name Jan Kukuzeli, although it is known that when he was born in Drach, XI century, here there still is not even one Albanian. Let me remind you also of Grigor Prlichev (1830-1893) who for some time is a teacher in Tirana and published the wonderful poem ³Skenderbeg². Undeniable is the fact that always at the forefront of all of their positive processes the Albanians had namely non-Albanians.
Dr. Kaplan Resuli famous Albanian dissident and historian
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 16, 2008 1:47:14 GMT -5
The second significant expansion of Albanians in Rumelia occurred in the 17th and 18th centuries. They came to settle in the plains of Djakovë (Yakova), Prizren, Ipek (Pec), Kalkandelen (Tetovo) and Kossovo, especially after the mass migration of the Serbs from these areas in 1690.
It seems that the Albanian settlement was mostly the result of the land mukâta‘a system (see my Tanzimat nedir, in Tarih Araštirmalari, Ankara 1942) prevailing there in this period. Albanians came to these rich plains and settled there permanently.
The albanisation and islamisation of these plains went hand in hand in the 17th and 18th centuries. Conversion to Islam received a new impetus under the Bushatlis and ‘Alî Pasha [q.v.] of Tepedelen (who) according to contemporary witnesses, forced a number of villages to adopt Islam.
Fehim Suleimanoglu
Independent Study
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 16, 2008 1:56:10 GMT -5
The Serbs of the Caucasus
The historical sources of the II and following centuries mention the Roman colony of Servitium not far from the modern Bosnian city of Gradiska on the Sava. (37) Safarik and L. Nierderle are of the opinion that this place took its name from the Serbs and that accordingly the Serbs already lived on the Sava by the beginning of the II century A.D. (38) It would be the oldest mention of the Serbs in history. Yet this can not be true. In the Roman sources there is no mention anywhere at all that in the Roman Empire from the I to IV century A.D. lived any branch of Serbs or Slavs from whom the aforesaid place might have taken the name Servitium. The verb "servire" and all its derivatives (servus, servitus, servitium) is a pure Latin word and we must not look for a Slavic origin in the case of names arising from that word. The Latin term "servitium" signifies service, supplies, payment and even the place of service. The Roman city in the neighbourhood of the modern Bosnian Gradiska took the name Servitium because in Roman times it was the naval base of the Roman fleet on the Sava where the ships on that river were supplied with all that they needed to function. (39)
Pliny the Elder (ca. 23 – 73 A.D.) in his History mentions the tribe of the Serbi (40) and in the middle of the II century Ptolemely mentions the Serboi. (41) The Slovenian ethnologist N. Zupanic first pointed out that in those names lies the key to the genealogy of the modern Serbs. He places those old Serbs on the northern slopes of the Caucasus southeast of the southern part of the Azov Sea. According to Zupanic the Serbs in the Caucasus were an aboriginal Alarodian nation and not of Indo-European stock. (42)
Although textually with regard to the manuscripts Pliny’s and Ptolemey’s appellation is not above reproach in every way, we may not reject what they attest. Therefore the oldest mention that we have the Serbs dates from the middle of the II century, more precisely from the last quarter of the I century A.D.
From these two instances it is clear that the Serbs mentioned therein were not Slavs. Indeed the Slaves did not reach the Azov Sea and the Caucasus until the II century A.D. However we cannot concur with Zupanic that the Serbs were originally native to the Caucasus. In Epiphanius’ register of the bishoprics of the Byzantine Empire which first appeared at the outset of the dynasty of Heraclius (610 – 717) the bishopric of Gordoserboi in Bithynia is mentioned. (43) This appellation cannot possibly refer to the Serbs in Thessaly because they, in all probability, had not yet arrived in Thessalian Srbiste when Epiphnius’ register of bishoprics was written. (44) In spite of this it is not certain that the emperor Justinian II relocated to Asia Minor the Serbs for Srbiste on the river Bistrica when in 688 he resettled in Bithynia the Slavs from the vicinity of Salonica. (45) The Serbs of Thessaly were so few in number that they did not even have their own bishopric before 869, (46) and it is wholly probable that in 688 they were transferred in such numbers to Asia Minor that a VII century bishopric in Bithynia would have taken its name from them. In any case Epiphanius’ register first appeared before the Third Constantinopolitan Synod in 680-81, and the bishopric of Gordoserboi could not be called after the name of the Serbs whom Justinian II resettled in Asia Minor only in 688.
The appellation Gordoserboi itself tells us that the Serbs mentioned in that bishopric did not originate from the Balkans but from the city of Gordium and its vicinity. Gordium was the capital of Phrygia and was situated on the right bank of the river Sangarios not far from the ancient city of Sardis. (47) We are of the opinion that this is where one should look for the paleo-fatherland of the Serbs who came subsequently to the Caucasus and from there to central Europe. Accordingly one should look for the name "Serb" which has not been yet elucidated in the ancient Sardian language or in the modern languages of the remnants of the native populations of Phrygia. (Kurds, etc.) (48)
Pliny the Elder does not consider the Caucasian Serbs to be Iranian Sarmatians. (49) This to us indicates that we must look for the origin of the race elsewhere.
The Serbs on the Elbe
From the II to the VII century A.D. we have no authoritative historical sources at all on the Serbs. The Frankish chronicler Fredigar was the first to mention the Serbs in 631. The Serbs were already Slavicized and lived on the east bank of the middle Elbe. On the subject of the war waged by the Frankish king Dagobert in 631 against Samo, king of the Slavic Wends, Fredegar writes:
"The Wends invade Thuringia and other dominions of the Frankish kingdom and plunder Dervan as well, duke of the Serbs, of Slavic race and previously a vassal of the Frankish king has gone over with all his men to the king of the Wends." (50)
Fredegar’s account of the Wends living on the boundaries of Thuringia in 632 and 641 refers to the Serbs as well. (51) The northern Serbs remained independent of the Franks right up to the first years of Charlemagne’s reign (768 – 814). The Frankish chronicler Einhard writes about them in 782:
"The Slavic Serbs living in the areas between the Elbe and the Saale have overrun the Thuringian and Saxon dominions in order to plunder them." (52)
The Arab writers (53) and the Anglo-Saxon king Alfred (54) mention the northern Serbs in the IX century. Constantine Porphyrogenitus writes in his "De administrando imperio":
"These Serbs come from the non-Christianized Serbs, called the White, living beyond the Turks (Hungary) in the area which they call Bojki (Bohemia). The Franks and Great Croats i.e. non-Christianized Croats, also called White, are their neighbours. There, then, have these Serbs lived from olden times." (55)
Porpyrogenetus’ expression "ap’arches" means "from the beginning". This would mean that the paleo-fatherland of the Serbs on the Elbe in modern Bohemia. Meanwhile the name "Serb" is a specific national name and wherever Serbs are mentioned they must be of the same national origin as the Serbs in the Caucasus or in Asia Minor. The Serbs must have come to the Elbe from those territories. It was so long ago that among the Serbs of the X century there no longer existed any tradition to record that they had originally come from the East. Only in the appellation White i.e. Western, as the Polabian Serbs called themselves, had the fortuitous tradition survived that they came from the East or South. The Polabian Serbs were the western because they were other Serbs, eastern or southern.
The Frankish chronicler Fredeger writes in 631 that the Polabian Serbs are of Slavic origin. (56) This means that the Serbs were slavicized already before 631 and spoke the language of the Western Slavs. Thus at least one century must have passed since the arrival of the Serbs on the Elbe hwich one ought to date at the latest by the second half of the V century A.D. The Roman writer of that time, Vibius Sequenter (ed. Oberlin, Strasbourg, 1778:5) writes: "The Elbe separates the Suevi for the Servitu" (Parisian Codex). L. Niederle is of the opinion that Vibius is talking abut the Serbs and we concur. (57) In all probability, the invasion of the Huns in 375 drove the Serbs of the Caucasus to the Elbe. The modern Lusatian Sorbs are the actual remants of the former Polabian Serbs.
Vicko Rendic
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 16, 2008 1:58:02 GMT -5
Not surprisingly, many Kosovars welcomed the German and Italian occupation forces because they destroyed the repressive interwar monarchy and offered the hope of unification with Albania. The recently-arrived Slav settlers, in their turn, were hounded out. The Kosovars also resisted the reimposition of Yugoslav rule in 1944-45. The new Communist Yugoslav regime declared martial law and eradicated the resistance, killing up to 48,000 Kosovars in six months (pp. 142-143). Thereafter, however, Tito's government implemented policies that were more likely to keep the peace in Kosovo than those previously tried by the monarchy. Any sign of Kosovar nationalism or secessionism was ruthlessly suppressed--but Serbian nationalism was held in check, too. Except in the mid-1950s, there were no concerted efforts to push Kosovars to emigrate to Turkey or to settle Serbian and Montenegrin immigrants in the region. Although Kosovo continued to be part of the Republic of Serbia within the Yugoslav federation, it was given some measure of autonomy.
Miranda Vickers
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 16, 2008 2:06:50 GMT -5
Noel Malcolm The Guardian,
"Kosovo is Serbia", "Ask any historian" read the unlikely placards, waved by angry Serb demonstrators in Brussels on Sunday. This is rather flattering for historians: we don't often get asked to adjudicate. It does not, however, follow that any historian would agree, not least because historians do not use this sort of eternal present tense.
History, for the Serbs, started in the early 7th century, when they settled in the Balkans. Kosovo was not incorporated into the Serbian kingdom in 1912; it remained occupied territory until some time after 1918. Then, finally, it was incorporated, not into a Serbian state, but into a Yugoslav one. And with one big interruption (the second world war) it remained part of some sort of Yugoslav state until June 2006.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Jul 16, 2008 2:11:03 GMT -5
hahahah Novi do so see how you post fake posts, dont tire man, why you dont post link of psychos? www.geocities.com/aia_skenderbeg/albanian_sources.htmlread what said famous historian Noel Malcolm: "Kosovo is Serbia", "Ask any historian" read the unlikely placards, waved by angry Serb demonstrators in Brussels on Sunday. This is rather flattering for historians: we don't often get asked to adjudicate. It does not, however, follow that any historian would agree, not least because historians do not use this sort of eternal present tense. ------------------------ yeah we can see tipycall actiong of fake serbs like this forum
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Post by libofsha on Jul 16, 2008 2:17:23 GMT -5
^ Dr. Kaplan Resuli: On the territory of today's Albania, as has already been confirmed by the most distinguished world scholars, from whom I have already mentioned some, hahahaahah distinguished WORLD scholars(who shall remain unnamed).....academics from the serbian mass genocide school that is
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jul 16, 2008 6:02:53 GMT -5
I wouldn't be quoting Noel Malcolm, if l were you guys!.
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