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Post by terroreign on Feb 1, 2008 4:36:23 GMT -5
From albania, hence their name "Albanians"
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Post by Duke John on Feb 1, 2008 4:44:05 GMT -5
From albania, hence their name "Albanians" So when did this emigrations of Albanians from Albania to Montenegro happen? from which parts of Albania did these montenegrin albanian clans came to Montenegro?
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Post by terroreign on Feb 1, 2008 5:16:15 GMT -5
from northern albania, before the ottomans arrived
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Post by Duke John on Feb 1, 2008 5:32:43 GMT -5
from northern albania, before the ottomans arrived ;D " If thats true what you claim then with same logic you are also an immigrant since slavs arrived in 600-700 ad.
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Post by ILIRI I MADH on Feb 1, 2008 10:21:32 GMT -5
from northern albania, before the ottomans arrived wrong, they moved south from Herzegovina and Northern Montenegro due to the slavic invasion, at least most of those tribes trace their origins from!
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Post by terroreign on Feb 1, 2008 13:34:02 GMT -5
Ah but we are for the most part illyrians, the original montenegrins coming from the area around Lovcen, which is a illyrian name in itself.
We are slavic speaking Dokleats(tribe of illyrians).
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Post by worldcit on Feb 9, 2008 23:17:14 GMT -5
ok you are slavophone illyrians....we are illyriophone illyrians....how illyrian immigrated in illyria i dont understand that..
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Post by Arlin on Mar 19, 2008 1:12:37 GMT -5
I voted for Romanians but it could have been anyone really. I've had close friends from many of those countries, and I think how much contact I've had with people from the country in question, has greatly influenced how close I feel to the country. I suspect, as many have already hinted, that Romania's opposition to the independence in Kosovo is mostly due to the precedent it would set for their own minorities. (Hungarians being only one of the) HOWEVER there is a big difference: Romania did not oppress their minorities but actually integrated them. I have one such Hungarian-Romanian friend living in Romania. He was allowed to be educated in Hungarian, and willingly learned Romanian (also in school). This is a fare cry from the basement-schools Albanian children had to study just to be educated in the only language they knew. His passport says he is a Romanian with a Hungarian nationality. There are no hard feelings there. Actually he views his bi-culturalism as an asset. Hence, I believe the opposition Romanians have will eventually subside... And then Albanians and Romaninas can get back to sharing communist jokes ;D ! Back to the topic though, why not Slovenes? I've met a few and chatted, and surprisingly our high school experiences were almost carbon copy! Socially and academically. Besides, I've felt an incredible closeness to ANY people I have met from ex-Yugo provinces. Not in the serb-hating way one might immediately think, but based on the fact that all our countries went through difficult transitions, and therefore had very similar economic/social phenomenas that followed. And damn, Montenegrins are cool! If only they weren't so tall, so I wouldn't have to tilt my head up, just to get eye contact
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Post by jerryspringer on Mar 19, 2008 11:08:48 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, Arlin. Thanks for voting for Romanians. Albanians, in general, are good people. Unfortunatelly, few such Albanians post in this forum, but perhaps things will change.
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Post by sotneser on Mar 19, 2008 11:30:42 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, Arlin. Thanks for voting for Romanians. Albanians, in general, are good people. Unfortunatelly, few such Albanians post in this forum, but perhaps things will change. Well, many of these Albanians have to deal with a lot of crap in this forum.
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Post by Arlin on Mar 19, 2008 22:18:43 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, Arlin. Thanks for voting for Romanians. Albanians, in general, are good people. Unfortunatelly, few such Albanians post in this forum, but perhaps things will change. Thaks for welcoming me Well it's been a while since I last visited, but the internet connection there is pure crap and veeeeeery expensive even by international standards That's why not that many post. sotneser I hope it's not that bad. I come to a place like this to have fun and meet some people. If it gets to snippy... "hasta la vista"... things to do, places to be etc... Thank you though
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Post by isisgoing on Mar 20, 2008 0:59:43 GMT -5
[ We are slavic speaking Dokleats(tribe of illyrians). Excuse me, but never heard of a dokleat...tribe of Illyria. Ithought the dokleats are part of those Goranis in those mountains.
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Post by bordura on Mar 20, 2008 2:32:54 GMT -5
I voted Greece. Ok haters do not jump yet, lol my reasoning is this. first all balkan are a like if you scratch the skin, peal the religion and mute the language divide. We all boils same way and become a soup the tastes the same no matte rwhat national spice from balkan we through inside. but the key word is "more related too". So i imagined myselfe being droped in a ballkan village in every of the nations listed. I belive that most of albanians from south of Mat river, eat, dress, sing, coock, think have maniers closer to that of a Greek. Albanians north of mat river have some other afinities, more with montenegrin or south slavic. I'm talking about influences here on the everyday life in a village life wich to me it is logical to be used as a measure since the balkans very lately have a substantial percentage of respective nations being urbanised. but this factor can not be used with the personal life experience wich creates the bias for peception to all of us in this forum. We are havely influenced from todays actions and positions on the Albanian issue of our neighbors. If we manage to keep that out and see just the cultural socio-cultural affinities i belive my opinoin and my vote it is fair. Look at our epos wich is mostlyor should say entirely created from albanians north of Mat river. It is in structure and conflicts and rythm same similar to the hellenic epos. As far as romanian, i don't really know it apears Albanians are void of any Romanian feeling being good or bad. And do not confuse yourselfe since me and you do not represent albania really. Go to a remote albanian village and ask what they think of romanian people? Most of them would be surprised to even being asked. To distant to neutral to had been efecting anyones life at all in real Albania. It is difficult to answer questionare without geting influenced from todays politics, but guys if you try to undress it from it it might help. Imagine again an old albanian lady from a remote village and ask who is her eclosest old balkan old lady in here life style.
again almost immposible to answer. if it was an optiion : to all ballkan the same, i would had picked that
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Post by ngadhnjyesi on Mar 20, 2008 13:12:11 GMT -5
I voted for Romanians but it could have been anyone really. Back to the topic though, why not Slovenes? I've met a few and chatted, and surprisingly our high school experiences were almost carbon copy! Socially and academically. Besides, I've felt an incredible closeness to ANY people I have met from ex-Yugo provinces. Not in the serb-hating way one might immediately think, but based on the fact that all our countries went through difficult transitions, and therefore had very similar economic/social phenomenas that followed. Couldn't have said it better myself. I'm in the same camp. I'd also like to add that as an educated Albanian who grew in the capital of a communist country I'd probably feel closer to someone who grew up in communist Ljubljana, Zagreb, Belgrade or Bucharest than to some uneducated Albanian from Ndroq (a locality not too far from Tirana). Although my family comes from Southern Albania, not very far from the Greek border, I can't relate too much with the Greeks as my experience is vastly different from theirs.
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Post by bordura on Mar 20, 2008 18:52:18 GMT -5
well ngadhenjyesi, albanian from ndroq is a majority in albania, not you and me. go to an albanian funeral or weding and you would see the real affinities. and really u have to visit this cities you mentioned yourself to see that our life is not that similar as u might think. but as i said it is hard to see the question unifluenced from the personal point of view.
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Post by SuperAlbanian on Mar 20, 2008 19:14:58 GMT -5
I don't want to be very rude but we have something against towards most of them all actually.... Probably except Bosnians and Croatians although they do claim that they were the Illyrians and that we invited Turkey to invade us.
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