|
Post by srbobran on Dec 12, 2008 20:12:46 GMT -5
Wow. You killed warriors while they were sleeping, that's really something to proud of. Albanian fighting prowess at its best.
|
|
|
Post by Duke John on Dec 12, 2008 21:33:23 GMT -5
Wow. You killed warriors while they were sleeping, that's really something to proud of. Albanian fighting prowess at its best. We dont want to discuss the serbian fighting tacticues and its proudnes right? some people might get traumatized if we do. Kanun does not work in present day.
|
|
|
Post by meltdown711 on Dec 13, 2008 4:49:06 GMT -5
^ well i guess he was just trying to say how important the guest is. the Berisha family in Kadare's book was in the blood feud because a guest was killed in front of their house 100 yrs before lol. In decentralized clannish societies, order has to be in some way created through such systems. particularly so that some kind of safety for travel could be found and so people could find safe havens. This is also why gift-giving is regularly practiced among guests and hosts: to create links. A guest is your responsibility and anything that happens to him or he does is directly related to you, the host. So if he harms somebody your at fault; and likewise if he is harmed...
|
|
|
Post by meltdown711 on Dec 13, 2008 5:15:18 GMT -5
Thats a myth. The code was never written down until the 19th century, until then it was passed down orally. He is generally ascribed as the organizer of the laws, however it has never been proven and we know next to nothing about the man, outside of the fact that he was an ally of Venice and had some-what lukewarm views toward Scanderbeg since the latter was inching in on his historical family territory.
The characteristics of the Kanun do not show signs of having been created then, the influence is heavily non-Christian and there are signs of it being something native in the Balkans.
|
|
|
Post by Pejoni on Dec 13, 2008 15:25:53 GMT -5
The kanun is older then what leke dukagjni put together....True he put it together 500 years ago, but he didnt just invent those laws...those laws are ancient since the illyrian times... And during the Ottoman occupation in Malsia e Madhe the Albanians welcomed some ottoman troops in their house gave them to eat and when the Ottomans were sleeping Malsors cut their throats off and sent the Ottoman heads to the Ottoman Porte to show them that they wont bow down to the Ottomans and that they will fight forever! Thats acually nothig to be proud of.
|
|
|
Post by Pejoni on Dec 13, 2008 15:35:55 GMT -5
Thats one filthy law, who ever follows it should be send to jail befor destroying more families. Yeah, the sense of Besa and giving your life up for your friend is "filthy"--yet in another thread you and Mimi were cheerleading Alb girls posing nude for Playboy. Wow, you 2 are a couple of clowns. Both of you should be thrown in jail LoL Why dickhead, was it your sister posing nude?
|
|
SuperAlbanian
Amicus
King of Gays
20%
CANARIS IS THE REAL KING OF GAYS! OH WAIT! HES THE QUEEN OF GAYS!!!!
Posts: 1,283
|
Post by SuperAlbanian on Dec 14, 2008 0:54:38 GMT -5
We must remember that this law is only based on natural insticts... Calling it a filthy law is a bad idea... there are lots of good laws in there too.... At least you know what to expect if you comit murder. With current law somone could only get 2 days in prison for killing someone depending how wide their pocket opens. We have to reconsider which is fairer....
|
|
|
Post by Pejoni on Dec 14, 2008 13:04:04 GMT -5
We must remember that this law is only based on natural insticts... Calling it a filthy law is a bad idea... there are lots of good laws in there too.... At least you know what to expect if you comit murder. With current law somone could only get 2 days in prison for killing someone depending how wide their pocket opens. We have to reconsider which is fairer.... That ridiculous law has destroyed more families then it has helped. Thats a fact, who ever disagrees is simply a ignorant.
|
|
SuperAlbanian
Amicus
King of Gays
20%
CANARIS IS THE REAL KING OF GAYS! OH WAIT! HES THE QUEEN OF GAYS!!!!
Posts: 1,283
|
Post by SuperAlbanian on Dec 14, 2008 15:48:26 GMT -5
Pejoni don't come to us as being modernised and westernised because we know the Peja malsors are the prime followers of this law. As a matter of fact... most murders comitted in Kosovo are in Peja. If a person takes another persons life then they should not have the right to life. I agree that family members should not have to suffer from their crimes.
|
|
|
Post by plisbardhi on Dec 14, 2008 16:27:06 GMT -5
Considering the circumstances in which it was created, the Kanun is as fair as it gets. To assume there is something inherently wrong in it is to assume there is something inherently wrong with us.
With the change of circumstances and time, so changes our adherence to the Kanun.
|
|
|
Post by Pejoni on Dec 14, 2008 16:58:50 GMT -5
Pejoni don't come to us as being modernised and westernised because we know the Peja malsors are the prime followers of this law. As a matter of fact... most murders comitted in Kosovo are in Peja. If a person takes another persons life then they should not have the right to life. I agree that family members should not have to suffer from their crimes. Its mostly criminals who kill eachtoher, and I dont feel pitty for any of them. Its not any better in rest of Kosova, its just that Peja had media attention for killings such as FARK members and Ramushi's brother. In the last 6 months, Peja regional police has suspended more then 6 police officer, 2 of them being members of special units, what does it tell you for other criminals? The law of Kanun is mostly dead, who ever follows it will only see misery.
|
|