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Post by tyson on Jun 16, 2009 13:03:00 GMT -5
i dont know what you are gettin so upset about. obviously he's doing whats in the best interest of his career financially. he just came back from having an operation, so he wants to fight some easier opponents to have practice and getting back into the rhythm. after those 3 fights with dream, he will come back to ufc to fight the harder opponents. what is the point of him fighting a really hard opponent in ufc if he's physically not ready?... he could possibly lose real badly which could ruin his career, that he wouldnt be able to make good money anymore. who cares if you think he's a chicken/pus.sy ,.... he's doing whats best for him, financially, physically and careerwise. let the man eat ffs. your main problem is that you have these expectations fixed on him that he has to live up to, to meet your approval. honestly, who gives a fukk. let him do his thing. as long as he puts on a good show, thats what counts, and he nearly always does, and thats why he's so popular all around the world, by all different nations.
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Post by superstar on Jun 16, 2009 13:59:13 GMT -5
It's anti-sport.
I'm not telling anyone what they should think of him. If you still like him that's your business. I don't like him because I'm a fan of the sport. As a fan I expect top fighters to to want to fight top fighters. Declining to fight someone because you want to make sure you win is B.s**t.
He was considered an elite fighter. An elite fighter should always want to fight top fighters... You prove nothing by beating weak opposition.
"HE PUTS ON A GOOD SHOW"? Maybe should join the WWE where they put on a "good show" of BS fights.
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Post by tyson on Jun 16, 2009 15:05:34 GMT -5
i dont see whats he is doing thats so anti sport. he just came back from surgery not too long ago, so he needs to take it easier till atleast the end of the year, fighting lesser hard opponents to test how his body can handle it after the operation, and to gain form. he cant just go fighting real hard opponents straight away. he has to take a few extra steps before he is ready to take on the big guns again.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 18, 2009 6:20:00 GMT -5
like i said, he turned into a p*ssy after that gonzaga knockout, was he ever knocked out before that? i know he gave fedor a close fight, well as far as fedor fights go.
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Post by karabin on Jun 18, 2009 10:46:01 GMT -5
like i said, he turned into a p*ssy Evidently, you albos know all about what it means to be a pussy. I do not understand why everyone is bashing mirko. He is a superb fighter but what makes him respectable is his character and attitude. He is the only fighter who does not behave like a monkey and is quite down to earth. You do not hear shit coming out of his mouth as opposed to most of the UFC fighters. Mirko is also the only MMA figher that I have seen who goes to check up on the opponent that he beat. This whole UFC story is a little bit suspicious to me. All of the big guns who went from Pride to UFC suddenly started losing. Looking at that faggot Dana White I would not be surprised if fights are rigged as they really only care about a good show and most of the money comes from the US audience who only so happen to like big shows. Kongo and Alister Overeem badmouthing Mirko is just below Mirko's level. I could not believe it when Kongo accused Mirko of using steroids, not because I do not believe that Mirko has taken them at some point but because Kongo is FILLED with them. So is Alister. That guy went from looking like a stick to looking like a monster in 1.5 years time. I guess grandmother's cooking with alot of fruits and vegetables is the key here All in all every figher has to lose at some point. Everyone thinks that Mirko is unbeatable. Losing is part of the sport. Regarding the Al Turk fight, Mirko would have never dropped down to that level and poke an opponent in the eye intentionally. I am very certain it was a honest accident. I am also very suspicious about the stuff that was quoted Dana White saying all this stuff about mirko refusing opponents and he got poked too because Mirko kept on promising and not delivering...etc Sounds too made up to be true.
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Post by donnie on Jun 18, 2009 10:57:09 GMT -5
Tell it to this guy;
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Mirko is/was a top fighter. But surgery and age will eventually take their toll on him. If all this is true, him avoiding top competitors on purpose, then perhaps Gonzaga's KO was what had such an effect on him, though I doubt it. He faced a similiarly devastating KO against Kevin Randleman too, but it just motivated him to come back and win the second fight through submission. It would be cool to see Mirko fight Gonzaga a second time.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 18, 2009 10:59:39 GMT -5
like i said, he turned into a p*ssy Evidently, you albos know all about what it means to be a p**y. well, evidently you're a delusional cvnt.
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Post by MiG on Jun 18, 2009 13:47:02 GMT -5
In here, I see people bashing Cro Cop and shit like that.. but I'll bet you everything I own, you wouldn't have the balls to step into the ring with some of the guys he fights.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 18, 2009 13:52:07 GMT -5
that's because we're not lifelong trained fighters genius
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Post by MiG on Jun 18, 2009 13:58:36 GMT -5
^ Then STFU maybe? Quit criticizing if you have NO credentials in that field, whatsoever. If you qualified him to be a pussy, then obviously you're way braver than that, right?
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 18, 2009 14:24:22 GMT -5
are you implying that in order to pass judgement on fighters i have to be a qualifed MMA athlete? what are 2 years old?
do you want to know the truth? ok here it is, i have always thought crocop has no fvcking heart, he gives up, i've seen it numerous times, he is the most lethal fighter ever, tremendous knock out power, all the skill in the world, hard to take down, solid bases and an all around complete fighter and the only fighter i thought could beat fedor....but he has no HEART, gave up in his fight aganist minotauro, against overeem, fedor, against, congo and gonzaga...yea 'Wandy the axe murderer' has been knocked out a lot of times but he's a monster, he's got the heart of a lion, keeps moving forward and always goes to war, whereas crocop is a cautious fighter, he picks his shots, mentally very weak and very little agression, always plays it safe and bides his time to land a shot and finish his opponents off like that, i repeat crocop is one of my favourite fighters ever but his problem has always been his head, he even admits it himself, he could have been one of the best ever...so go learn and get up to speed in MMA and then we can discuss all you want coz i can school you all night long
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Post by MiG on Jun 18, 2009 14:35:32 GMT -5
No, and no. I am implying that in order for you to qualify someone as a pussy, you have to be at least at par, or stronger then them. But you are neither. So I don't really understand why you're making such a fucking deal about it me calling you out on it. I don't really care if you can "School" me, or anyone here. I'm telling you, that no matter how massive of an independent analyst you are, you have no right of calling anyone a pussy. Prove that I'm wrong.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 18, 2009 14:43:11 GMT -5
No, and no. I am implying that in order for you to qualify someone as a p**y, you have to be at least at par, or stronger then them. But you are neither. So I don't really understand why you're making such a f**king deal about it me calling you out on it.
so what? i can call him whatever i want, i'm not making a big deal out of anything mate, you're throwing a hissy fit over me calling your compatriot a pussy, which by the way you're missing the context, its not a comparison btw me and him, its a demenour its picked up from years of being a fan, i am comparing this crocop to what i have seen in K1 and pryde.
you have no right of calling anyone a p**y
are you talking about social ettiquete in general?
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Post by MiG on Jun 18, 2009 15:11:41 GMT -5
No, its not even calling him a pussy because he's Croat (My "Compatriot"), its that you shouldn't call anyone in such a profession a pussy. You have no right to.
Then maybe you could have used more analytical terms, instead of pussy. You call someone a pussy to insult them, and insulting someone like that is a little way beyond your league.
Refer to last comment.
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Post by Anthologic on Jun 18, 2009 20:35:36 GMT -5
If he was albanian you wouldn't have called him a pussy. Stop lying to us and yourself.
Point made.
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Post by superstar on Jun 19, 2009 0:18:28 GMT -5
I'm Croat and I have no probs with fieri calling him a "p**y".
Dream already has Cro Cop facing Mighty Mo on July 20th. WOOOO Mighty Mo with a 3-1 record going up against a former Pride Grand Prix Champ.... what a rip off!
I hope Mighty Mo wins.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 19, 2009 2:06:46 GMT -5
If he was albanian you wouldn't have called him a p**y. Stop lying to us and yourself. Point made. i'm starting to feel like i'm talking to a couple of kids
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Post by Anthologic on Jun 19, 2009 15:52:56 GMT -5
I'm Croat and I have no probs with fieri calling him a "p**y". Dream already has Cro Cop facing Mighty Mo on July 20th. WOOOO Mighty Mo with a 3-1 record going up against a former Pride Grand Prix Champ.... what a rip off! I hope Mighty Mo wins. I see so the institution placing Cro Cop vs Mo makes CC a pussy, as if he had a choice in who he fights. Retard.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 19, 2009 16:34:46 GMT -5
he a had pick of the top HW contenders for his comeback fight in the ufc, he turned down velasquez...which i understandable, he's coming back from major knee urgery but it nullifies your claim he has no choice, to get back to the dream issue, why is he dogding overeem? he should have fought overeem for his comeback fight in dream, i don't care if he loses, he needs to step up and deliver, did he not drop top names in the post match interview with joe rogan? he asked for randy, noguiera and he wanted to avenge gonzaga loss...listen, noone expects to see crocop to do any miracles at 36 ok? its a long shot, what i'm saying is that there seems to be a discrepancy btw what he claims his reason for coming back is and the moves he's pulling, i'll always be a fan of him, if he wants to build his confidence up by beating some chumps then so be it, but i like to see him stepping up in the ufc, it doesn't matter if he loses, as long as he puts on a good show i'll respect him infinitely, i like champs like randy who is never scared of anyone, he fought brock for fvck's sake at 45 years old giving brock 50 pounds on him, that's how you earn peopl's respect.
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Post by Anthologic on Jun 20, 2009 16:35:43 GMT -5
Well I'm assuming you're not in the UFC organization, and I'm assuming you're not Mirko's agent. How would you know he had an "offer" to fight velasquez?
The people running the fights aren't idiots, there's no point in pitting mirko against someone that would beat him today, when you can easily pit them together in a few months when it will be a closer match.
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