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Post by terroreign on Dec 1, 2010 18:21:54 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Dec 5, 2010 14:15:44 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Jan 8, 2011 7:21:01 GMT -5
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jan 10, 2011 8:32:46 GMT -5
They all look 100% Serbian apart from this one who looks Albanian because of the curly hair, pale skin and shorter stature. Possibly an Albanian mouth to.
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Post by ljubotan on Jan 10, 2011 10:14:25 GMT -5
I will admit that Montenegrin Serb and Albanian Malesor females are the most attractive on avg in all of ex-Jug. They have this dark italian look with a Slavic crossover.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 10, 2011 12:26:20 GMT -5
shejtani - I'm not Arsenije you little budala Caslav Klonimirovic - dude it's super ironic you think that way, because she's a Belgrade Monte and was former Miss Serbia lol
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Post by odel on Jan 10, 2011 14:40:48 GMT -5
They all look 100% Serbian apart from this one who looks Albanian because of the curly hair, pale skin and shorter stature. Possibly an Albanian mouth to. Lol, how can you see that she is short? You can't see the whole of her! And of course because she is supposedly short she is Albanian right away. If curly hair is enough to make a person Albanian then there would be quite many Yugoslavs that would be Albanian. Curly hair is associated with Cro-magnids, Dinarids and Alpines (Alpines can be considered as reduced Cro-magnids). Also a lot of those girls probably straightened their hair. Stefan Jovetic for example is a montenegrin with quite curly hair, actually Jovetic looks similar to this girl. According to your logic every curly haired balkanite is an Albanian, so who knows? Also believe me most Albanians don't have curly hair, it's usually wavy, although many do have curly hair. She does not have an Albanian mouth (does that exist???), and she would only appear pale skinned if she was standing next to a 100 blacks from Congo. Anyways all of the girls are good looking, most of them would fit in as Albanians just as we mostly would fit in as Montenegrins or Bosniaks. I liked Jelena Kostic and Mariana Mihajlovic the most.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jan 10, 2011 17:38:08 GMT -5
Stevan Jovetic looks like a freak. He doesn't look like any ethnicity. And they don't look like Albanian girls at all you are full of s**t they look as Serbian as you can get because Montengrins are Serbs. f**king ridiculous Albanians and Serbs fighting over who is more "Montenegrin." It is the heart of where Serbia began and more Serbs have connection to the region then Albanians do. Not to mention Serbian influence went further into todays northern Albanian regions then vice versa. Montenegrins them selves have a national hobby of claiming every second Serb (not Albanian) as Montenegrin. A large minority self declare as Serbs and most of their diaspora declare as Serbs. Albanians need to stop with their massive fantasies about being Montenegrins(Serbs). Just because you can name one or two families that may have been assimilated it does not make you Serbs. Stop embarrassing your selves. Also when you claim you look like Bosnians lol that is just because you and Bosniaks are friends due to the Muslim friendship you favour them in anything. The most that can be said about that is that Albanians look closer to the south slavs moreso then anyone else in the region. Everything I said about that girls Albanian look is true btw although it has probably got more to do with her styling and the photo.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jan 10, 2011 17:50:16 GMT -5
Caslav Klonimirovic - dude it's super ironic you think that way, because she's a Belgrade Monte and was former Miss Serbia lol There's nothing ironic about that at all if as you say she's "Montenegrin". What's actualy ironic is you claiming Serbs as Black Mountaineers. Vedrana Grbovic is Serb.
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Post by alb12345 on Jan 10, 2011 18:29:44 GMT -5
Stevan Jovetic looks like a freak. He doesn't look like any ethnicity. And they don't look like Albanian girls at all you are full of s**t they look as Serbian as you can get because Montengrins are Serbs. f**king ridiculous Albanians and Serbs fighting over who is more "Montenegrin." It is the heart of where Serbia began and more Serbs have connection to the region then Albanians do. Not to mention Serbian influence went further into todays northern Albanian regions then vice versa. Montenegrins them selves have a national hobby of claiming every second Serb (not Albanian) as Montenegrin. A large minority self declare as Serbs and most of their diaspora declare as Serbs. Albanians need to stop with their massive fantasies about being Montenegrins(Serbs). Just because you can name one or two families that may have been assimilated it does not make you Serbs. Stop embarrassing your selves. Also when you claim you look like Bosnians lol that is just because you and Bosniaks are friends due to the Muslim friendship you favour them in anything. The most that can be said about that is that Albanians look closer to the south slavs moreso then anyone else in the region. Everything I said about that girls Albanian look is true btw although it has probably got more to do with her styling and the photo. According to Professor of Anthropology at Harward and University of Pennsylvania Carlton Steven Coon he believes that Montenegrins are Albanians that were Slavized and he basis his theory on the similarities in the genetic makeup of the two and cultural similarities. Also when Albanian warrior prince Scanderbeg formed the "League of Albanian Princes" he included a Stephan Cernojevic of Zabiak, Montenegro perhaps because of this fact. Carleton Coon (1904-1981) president of the ‘American Association of Physical Anthropologists’ underlines the fact that: ‘The Montenegrins, who are the tallest people in Europe … are linguistically Serbs, but there can be no question that they are to a large extent Slavicized Albanians; the Cultural Continuity between the two Peoples is striking, the only real differences being those of language and religion As Prince Nicholas of Vasoyevich states in his notes: ‘... High Albania is a perfect natural Fortress that no power has ever been able to subdue or Conquer ‘. However, a considerable number of the Illyrian population did not move, but stayed in their territories for centuries. This population came to withstand Slavization up to the last few centuries. This includes the population of Herzegovina and Montenegro, who even are linguistically Slavic, although in many anthropological and ethnological aspects they still retain the old substance of their ties with Albanians (the last Illyrians not assimilated) and the evidence is more than clear. Krivo can claim to be whatever its mind says but by blood most of monteniggers are albanians
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Post by ulf on Jan 10, 2011 18:55:30 GMT -5
assumptions, assumptions... you'll never know for sure if there were Illyrians at all unless they invent some time machine or something like that, since they left no clear mark in history
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Post by terroreign on Jan 10, 2011 19:22:27 GMT -5
Caslav Klonimirovic - dude it's super ironic you think that way, because she's a Belgrade Monte and was former Miss Serbia lol There's nothing ironic about that at all if as you say she's "Montenegrin". What's actualy ironic is you claiming Serbs as Black Mountaineers. Vedrana Grbovic is Serb. Dude, her origin is from Montenegro, like 50% of Belgrade what's the big deal? And for the record she doesn't look like an Alb to me Unik - Whether Serbs look like Albanians or Albanians look like Serbs is debated, one thing's for certain, we resemble each other alot.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jan 11, 2011 7:43:32 GMT -5
Stevan Jovetic looks like a freak. He doesn't look like any ethnicity. And they don't look like Albanian girls at all you are full of s**t they look as Serbian as you can get because Montengrins are Serbs. f**king ridiculous Albanians and Serbs fighting over who is more "Montenegrin." It is the heart of where Serbia began and more Serbs have connection to the region then Albanians do. Not to mention Serbian influence went further into todays northern Albanian regions then vice versa. Montenegrins them selves have a national hobby of claiming every second Serb (not Albanian) as Montenegrin. A large minority self declare as Serbs and most of their diaspora declare as Serbs. Albanians need to stop with their massive fantasies about being Montenegrins(Serbs). Just because you can name one or two families that may have been assimilated it does not make you Serbs. Stop embarrassing your selves. Also when you claim you look like Bosnians lol that is just because you and Bosniaks are friends due to the Muslim friendship you favour them in anything. The most that can be said about that is that Albanians look closer to the south slavs moreso then anyone else in the region. Everything I said about that girls Albanian look is true btw although it has probably got more to do with her styling and the photo. According to Professor of Anthropology at Harward and University of Pennsylvania Carlton Steven Coon he believes that Montenegrins are Albanians that were Slavized and he basis his theory on the similarities in the genetic makeup of the two and cultural similarities. Also when Albanian warrior prince Scanderbeg formed the "League of Albanian Princes" he included a Stephan Cernojevic of Zabiak, Montenegro perhaps because of this fact. Carleton Coon (1904-1981) president of the ‘American Association of Physical Anthropologists’ underlines the fact that: ‘The Montenegrins, who are the tallest people in Europe … are linguistically Serbs, but there can be no question that they are to a large extent Slavicized Albanians; the Cultural Continuity between the two Peoples is striking, the only real differences being those of language and religion As Prince Nicholas of Vasoyevich states in his notes: ‘... High Albania is a perfect natural Fortress that no power has ever been able to subdue or Conquer ‘. However, a considerable number of the Illyrian population did not move, but stayed in their territories for centuries. This population came to withstand Slavization up to the last few centuries. This includes the population of Herzegovina and Montenegro, who even are linguistically Slavic, although in many anthropological and ethnological aspects they still retain the old substance of their ties with Albanians (the last Illyrians not assimilated) and the evidence is more than clear. Krivo can claim to be whatever its mind says but by blood most of monten**g**rs are albanians If "Montenegrins" are slavicized natives (correction of Albanians) then so are Serbs. Nobody would doubt that. If you want to live by Coon you'll die by Coon also. Has there been any further studies to confirm and broaden his results? All that I can see is results that shift the Dinaric centre west to Hercegovina and further classifications of south slavs as Dinaric. Put it this way it is not Albanian. All that is left for Albanians to do is keep posting Coons conclusion whilst ignoring genetics and hoping that further study will not emerge. I'll say it clear. I am quite sure Serbs as a whole are distinctly more Dinaric then Albanians and I am sure Montenegrins are genetically more closely related to Serbs then Albanians. I've given reasons a number of times nobody has disagreed with. Deep down you Albanians know it as well so I recommend to start coming to terms with it. Now, does anyone have a link to Coons Mountains of the Giants? I know it was posted on here a long time ago. I have a few things to say about his conclusions (which Albanians in turn convolute) but I'll refrain until I've read the study properly.
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Post by terroreign on Jan 11, 2011 18:07:30 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Jan 14, 2011 18:43:29 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Jan 14, 2011 18:51:57 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Jan 30, 2011 5:02:17 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Jan 30, 2011 5:09:19 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Jan 30, 2011 5:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by plisbardhi on Jan 30, 2011 14:14:01 GMT -5
^ Pure Slav
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