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Post by odel on Nov 1, 2010 13:16:22 GMT -5
Well, I dont think they were particularly numerous to begin with. I have also been to Ulqin a couple of times, perhaps five times, and at two of those times I stayed maybe two weeks each, and despite this I never saw any black Ulqinak. I never heard of Ulqin or Ulqinak, where in the hell is Ulqin anyway?? However i did hear about a place called Ulcinj but not Ulqin. You're not even smart enough to add two + two are you?
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Nov 2, 2010 5:14:44 GMT -5
I never heard of Ulqin or Ulqinak, where in the hell is Ulqin anyway?? However i did hear about a place called Ulcinj but not Ulqin. You're not even smart enough to add two + two are you? Four?
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Post by odel on Nov 2, 2010 11:36:10 GMT -5
You're not even smart enough to add two + two are you? Four? It's an expression, what I meant with the expression is that you can't even link the names Ulqin with Ulcinj which is as easy as adding two + two. When someone says this expression it basically means that you don't see the context. Which you obviously can't as Ulqin is an Albanian city with an Albanian name and calling it Ulcinj won't change these facts. So don't play more stupid than what you already are.
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Post by tsompanos on Nov 2, 2010 11:38:43 GMT -5
now it makes sense why its called monte negro
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Post by Patrinos on Nov 2, 2010 15:32:39 GMT -5
now it makes sense why its called monte negro lol monte-niggger
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Nov 2, 2010 15:39:59 GMT -5
Or Mountain Negroes
Monteniggers - So i Tekila
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Nov 2, 2010 19:26:25 GMT -5
It's an expression, what I meant with the expression is that you can't even link the names Ulqin with Ulcinj which is as easy as adding two + two. When someone says this expression it basically means that you don't see the context. Which you obviously can't as Ulqin is an Albanian city with an Albanian name and calling it Ulcinj won't change these facts. So don't play more stupid than what you already are. But the city is called Ulcinj and not Ulqin. That is what i am trying to point out, also why would you call a Serbo-Montenegrin city an Albanian name when Ulcinj is even Albanian or even part of Albania?? That is what i don't understand. I never heard of Ulqin and i tried finding it on the map but it just doesn't exist but then i realise the topic is about Ulcinj and for a second i thought you made a spelling error but then several times you wrote Ulqin or Ulqinak so i thought i would come and correct the name of the Serbian-Montenegrin city. Also i don't understand why you brought up Maths into the subject?? Maths has nothing to do with making a spelling mistake, i was only correcting your spelling and hopefully you and Donnie will use the correct name next time in your post. It is also due out of respect as we do not appreciate our cities being Albanised such as much as you wouldn't want us Serbs and Montenegrins Serbianising Albanian cities in Albania.
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Post by drinus123 on Nov 2, 2010 23:47:06 GMT -5
StankoISaSerb It's Ulqin and it's Albanian word, Albanian city, Albanian populated. Serbs are temporary visitors You dont pronounce Washington into Vashington. New York pronounced as NjÜ Jork. That would be a mistake. So learn to pronounce Ulqin not Ulcinj... dont forget. you are a slav or in other words slaves of holy roman empire. just like the black people of ulqin. you were brought into the balkan for labor, farming, and other duties -- only difference between you and the black guy is skin color. img5.imageshack.us/img5/2874/n1126767149446941223.jpgnow tell me the montenegrin guy from mogadishu. he probably pronounces the name of the town ULQIN right. why shouldn't you? give me one good reason?
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Nov 3, 2010 5:49:58 GMT -5
It is spelt Ulcinj and it is not part of Albania therefore it isn't an Albanian city. It maybe populated by Albanians but don't forget that it was the Albanians that migrated into Yugoslavia in large numbers post 1941 and after 1946. These so called Albanians are Albanians diaspora living in another foreign country that is not Albanian. If they want to live in a Albanian state then they can go back to Albania as nobody is stopping them from living in their own country in which they call Albania.
Washington is Washington and we say it in English, Ulcinj in English is also spelt as Ulcinj as there is no way of turning the name Ulcinj into a English name.
Also i am not Albanian and Ulcinj is a Serbian-Montenegrin city and it is part of the Republic of Montenegro so i am spelling it and pronouncing it as Ulcinj which is the correct name and correct pronounciation.
We were never slaves to begin with as we already had our own kingdom when we settled in the Balkans a thousand years long before Albanians had arrived in the Balkans. We were part of the Byzantine Empire and we once ruled it aswell.
Albanians on the other hand were brought in by the Ottoman Empire and they were very well slaves and used as human shields and to fight the Christians.
He pronounces the name Ulcinj the way it is spelt, written and pronounced. He doesn't seem to nationalise the name of cities and claim these cities as Mogadishu. You Albanians on the other hand move to a foreign nation and as soon as you Albanians make up a majority of a town, a city or a region, you Albanians have a habbit of claiming it to be Albanian and want to annex it as part of Albania.
There is alot of Albanians in Footscray in Melbourne and now is Footscray part of Albanian or belongs to Albania?
I'll give you two good reasons,
1. Ulcinj is spelt Ulcinj, it is part of the Republic of Montenegro and not Albania. It was never Albanian to begin with or even part of Albania.
2. I am not Albanian but a Serb from Montenegro.
These are my reasons.
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Post by donnie on Nov 3, 2010 6:45:32 GMT -5
Ulqin.
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Nov 3, 2010 6:47:21 GMT -5
Ulcinj was never Albanian to begin with.
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Post by donnie on Nov 3, 2010 7:01:11 GMT -5
Ulqin.
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Post by terroreign on Nov 3, 2010 14:57:15 GMT -5
StankoISaSerb It's Ulqin and it's Albanian word, Albanian city, Albanian populated. Serbs are temporary visitors You dont pronounce Washington into Vashington. New York pronounced as NjÜ Jork. That would be a mistake. So learn to pronounce Ulqin not Ulcinj... dont forget. you are a slav or in other words slaves of holy roman empire. just like the black people of ulqin. you were brought into the balkan for labor, farming, and other duties -- only difference between you and the black guy is skin color. img5.imageshack.us/img5/2874/n1126767149446941223.jpgnow tell me the montenegrin guy from mogadishu. he probably pronounces the name of the town ULQIN right. why shouldn't you? give me one good reason? It's english name is Ulcinj, we are speaking english ergo, Ulcinj. Quit being stupid. Since they've been there since Roman times, 99% are well inter-mixed in Montenegro's local population. So their descendants appear white.
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Post by toskaliku on Nov 4, 2010 11:40:16 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Nov 4, 2010 16:24:26 GMT -5
Thanks melty for de-railing a perfectly interesting topic. ;D
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Post by terroreign on Dec 12, 2010 7:41:24 GMT -5
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Post by terroreign on Dec 12, 2010 8:26:36 GMT -5
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Post by tsompanos on Dec 12, 2010 18:30:39 GMT -5
They look like good people the old one seems to have a chetnik hat on ;D
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Feb 23, 2012 12:12:09 GMT -5
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Post by tovarishchpopovic on Dec 21, 2012 11:13:12 GMT -5
To relate to the both of you (donnie and Stanko), Ulcinj/Ulqin and its culture people, and view is relative. To Montenegrins/Serbs it is Montenegrin - to Albanians, it is Albanian-Montenegrin. As having recently attended a festival for Albanian independence, I immersed myself in the different cultures and peoples that were spread forth from what can be called "Albania" yet identified as Albanians. To my surprise, or rather, not so, they showed a segment on the Ulqini-Ulcinjac fishermen. One must note that those who inhabit Ulcinj are not so much Albanian as they are Montenegrin, or, perhaps, a hybrid of the two. Last time I checked, when I entered the room: I looked like absolutely no one there - spare one boy. Needless to say my father is Montenegrin and my mother is an "Albanian" - from Tirana.
Furthermore, as long as we're talking about Monteys, Albanians and genetics - I'd like to pose the question of the Cotaj clan and Popovic last name in Ulcinj. Does anyone know of their history or genetics? If anyone knows any history regarding either the last name (which is interchangeable with clan, though not vice versa for Cotaj) it would be much appreciated.
The only piece of information I could provide further is that my father comes from a town in Ulcinj know as "Saint George('s)". There is a statue of Saint George in the town. Furthermore, my family is Christian-Roman Catholic. Any help or information would be greatly valued and appreciated!!!
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