Patrinos
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Peloponnesos uber alles
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Post by Patrinos on Aug 7, 2009 9:26:41 GMT -5
OH okay. Thanks for reminding us Patrinas. Albanians come to Greece to rape and steal and Arabs come to provide for their family. Gotchya. Truth be told, if there is one group of people I don't mind raping and stealing, it's the Greeks. Ishalla the Albanians continue on this same path of criminality. Albanians...?I haven't mentioned them...you did... ;D ;D
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Post by L0gjICK on Aug 7, 2009 9:40:20 GMT -5
OH okay. Thanks for reminding us Patrinas. Albanians come to Greece to rape and steal and Arabs come to provide for their family. Gotchya. Truth be told, if there is one group of people I don't mind raping and stealing, it's the Greeks. Ishalla the Albanians continue on this same path of criminality. Albanians...?I haven't mentioned them...you did... ;D ;D Good point.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Aug 7, 2009 11:10:27 GMT -5
LOL!!! Thats what the Germans were saying about the Turks. "They come to work and leave"... and then the families came. Have fun. I would love to see your country rot in some way, maybe this is the way.. inshaallah!!!
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Post by todhrimencuri on Aug 7, 2009 11:22:47 GMT -5
Next to the fact that the EU is at least 1 mio times better and more humanitarian than the f.ucking USA... come on meltdodown as if you would care about the lifes of ni.ggers...you justify the armenian genocide and are telling they got what they deserved but in rwanda-case meltdown is turning a humanitarian...? lool surely.. learn to appear with your real face and spare us your double-faced-games....your supposed bother about killed humans is so unbelievably unconvincing on the one hand...and on the other hand the reader becomes aware of how inconsequent you are in your thoughts... like a 15-year old teen. Get adult. and ex ante: Spare me your cheap justifications and pseudo-differentiations...I wont even read them. 1. The Armenian massacres were brought about because Armenians attacked first and received punishment. That is how I see it. It wasnt a western created societal division in order to divide and conquer. 2. I do care about "ni*ggers". I think what has happened to them throughout history is disgusting. I think the way they have been treated in the US is similar to how Albs have been treated in Yugoslavia and continue to be treated in places throughout "humanitarian" Europe (such as your country). In this sense, I define with them. 3. Dont bother reading my response... couldnt care less.
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Post by luarasi on Aug 7, 2009 11:27:45 GMT -5
Well, the majority have came without their families and are here to work and send money to their homes, and return in few years. Well they can start a new family in Greece, they can have multiple whifes also provide a fresh blod for the coach potato nation, also they can blend in well with their Greek brothers of the same blood.
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Post by srbobran on Aug 7, 2009 13:13:30 GMT -5
Kuragjozi, if it wasn't for the Europe (and America) you hate so much, you would have NOTHING in Kosovo or FYROM and you know it just as well as I. They are the reason we lost, not a half-assed militia (which was funded, supplied, and logistically equipped by them anyways).
Show some fvcking gratitude, the West was and is your only real ally, what real support did your "Muslim brothers" give you in Kosovo (hell, most of them won't even recognize Kosovo). The West mobilized her forces in support of your people and sent her young to die in a war that was not theirs and you spit on them? Disgusting.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Aug 7, 2009 13:18:43 GMT -5
If it wasnt for the west handing out Kosovo and Macedonia to Serbia in the beginning of the 20th century, or signing Ulcin off to Montenegro, even when the population protested... we would not have needed their help.
Just because I dislike Europe doesnt mean I like the Islamic World. And America mobilized. if it was up to Europe, Kosovo would never have become an issue. Hell the west was initially against recognizing even Croatia and Slovenia. Germany was the belligerent one in that arena.
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Post by srbobran on Aug 7, 2009 15:09:37 GMT -5
Kosovo and Macedonia weren't handed out, they were won in war by the Serbs defeating the Ottomans. And if it wasn't for the west, Albania wouldn't have existed (the whole of Albania was captured by the Serbs and Greeks). If it was for Austrian pressure, Albania would have never became a state in the first place.
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Post by insomniac on Aug 7, 2009 15:14:36 GMT -5
It wouldve became later with 7 million Albanians living on Russian-made borders.
Kosovo would've happened much earlier if Albania didnt exist as a state.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Aug 7, 2009 15:19:12 GMT -5
The British and French had long decided to give Kosovo to Serbia and the Russians were pushing for it since they starting putting diplomats and consulates in the region in the late 19th century. The Germans had even denied that Albanians were an ethnicity. If it wasnt for the west, the moment for Serbia to enter it would have never came.
Austrians didnt get involved with Albania until late. The ultimate decision for the statehood of Albania came down to America after WWI through the heavy influence of Bishop Fan Noli.
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Post by insomniac on Aug 7, 2009 15:19:46 GMT -5
On that note Albania celebrates soon its 100-year Anniversary. Of being a stable and united country. Cheers to another 100 years destroying Serb enemies.
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Post by captainalbania on Aug 8, 2009 0:05:23 GMT -5
Meltdown....let me explain the Rwanda issue in simple terms.
Rwanda actually has 3 ethnic groups. The Twa, pygmy hunter-gatherers, the sedentary farming Hutus (who belong to the Bantu group), and the ranching Tutsis (who look distinct and may have come from the Horn of Africa).
Lets clarify here, Europeans didn't do anything in that country except perhaps some prospecting for resources. The Germans didn't change the local power structure at all, they kept the guys who were already in charge, in power.
Let me translate... "after Germany lost WWI, the Belgians took over and built schools and proper farms with modern equipment". Instead of just leeching like the Germans, they contributed to the place. They didn't change the local power structure.
The one stupid thing the Belgians did was take away the independence of the localities.
But all that shit is history because on July 1, 1962, Belgium, with UN oversight, granted full independence to the two countries. Rwanda was created as a republic governed by the majority Party of the Hutu Emancipation Movement. The Hutus finally got their country and got rid of their masters, the Tutsis.
Is it the Belgians fault these people killed each other? Perhaps it was their responsibility to intervene, but it was not the European's fault there was a genocide.
In fact, by even insinuating it was Europe's fault, you are being racist. Aren't the Africans smart enough to make their own decisions or do they have to be babied by the "superior" Europeans and shown how to have a civilization?
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Post by monsterofsouli on Aug 8, 2009 0:17:01 GMT -5
^^^^ Agreed. On another note, I heard something that sounds so similar to a country in the Balkans (hint, hint). Apparently I think the Tutsis are lighter skinned and appear to have some European features. I think they held priveleged positions in the past and in recent times those types of things amongst others led to them being targets of violence.
You guys should rent the movie "HOTEL RWANDA." Very good movie.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Aug 8, 2009 0:23:50 GMT -5
We can always expect a good racist rant from captainAlbania. If white Europe, from which Albanians are generally excluded since we are perceived as pretty much the "ni**ers of Europe", is attacked... the white knight will come to defend them, KKK attire and all. BS. In an effort to divide-and-conquer the local population, the Belgians prefered certain groups over others and put a minority in position of power over the rest, creating discontent from the majority. This is a FACT, an undeniable one. Not to mention the brutal and repressive campaign inflicted on the Africans by the Belgians against revolts. Like lopping off the hands of all male boys. The massacres the Belgians inflicted are notorious all over the world today... so thats no something light. Interestingly enough: Modern day genetic studies on the y-chromosome show the Tutsi to be 100% of African origin (80% E1b1a, 15% B, 4% E3, 1% E1b1b) with little to no East African genetic influence.[1] In fact, the Tutsis are most genetically similar to the Hutu.Meaning there is no real diff between the two people. Read up on Leopolds actions in the Congo: The actions committed by the Belgians would, ironically, be repeated during the civil war. Just like how in the 20s, the British used White Phosphorous on the Kurds in Iraq... something which would be later repeated by Hussein. www.yale.edu/gsp/colonial/belgian_congo/index.htmlThe "schools" you mention were little other than cover. The reality was that Leopod practically privatized the region and allowed a brutal treatment of the locals. The Belgian colonization of the Congo is one of the most gross and dispecable examples of colonialism. Masters who were put into power by the Belgians, who considered the Tutsis to be "racially superior" and "Aryan" by origin. They measured the heads the skulls and randomly decided who would be Hutu and Tutsi. Whatever the difference between the two groups prior, why was it that they started killing each other only after the Belgians left. Why not before the Belgians came? The animosity and hate between the two was a colonial creation. Absolutely. They pillaged and butchered the population. Kept them repressed to an extreme and left the zone impoverished and in strife... it was 100% their fault. Silly argument. After their territory was rampaged, they were left with nothing. The Belgians didnt help one bit. Considering how they treated the people, its no surprise what happened happened.
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Post by monsterofsouli on Aug 8, 2009 0:37:24 GMT -5
""""""Masters who were put into power by the Belgians, who considered the Tutsis to be "racially superior" and "Aryan" by origin. They measured the heads the skulls and randomly decided who would be Hutu and Tutsi. Whatever the difference between the two groups prior, why was it that they started killing each other only after the Belgians left. Why not before the Belgians came? The animosity and hate between the two was a colonial creation. """"""
I have heard stuff similar to what you are stating. Interesting stuff.
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Post by monsterofsouli on Aug 8, 2009 0:37:57 GMT -5
Thank you all knowing oracle.
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Aug 8, 2009 0:53:37 GMT -5
Chalkedon ... I don't believe we have too many things in common with Albanians.... they have been here only since 1200.... their only connection is the Greek Arvanites that were sent to them to educate them..Let's not confuse these facts.... These people need another 500 years to come out of the bottom of the barrel their in.... Thank God I don't have to see it in my life time.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Aug 8, 2009 1:03:13 GMT -5
some teachers you guys sent us... they came out having been taught by us...
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Aug 8, 2009 1:23:27 GMT -5
What did you teach them.... How to sell Ak47''s,heroin and women? You got nothing..... the best Albanians are from todays gene pool...
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Post by todhrimencuri on Aug 8, 2009 1:28:22 GMT -5
Taught them? How about to speak our language as a first language for hundreds of years.
Anyway, enough about the Arvanites.
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