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Post by todhrimencuri on Nov 4, 2009 19:19:57 GMT -5
Dont worry guys, it wont be Kosovo or a for much longer. When the last Serb in Kosova dies, we will name it "NoSerbland"
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Post by Novi Pazar on Nov 4, 2009 19:34:52 GMT -5
lmao
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Post by gavrilo on Nov 4, 2009 19:46:16 GMT -5
yo whats up with the last quote toskali? i thought albanians were mostly christian and not muslim? thats what keeps getting pointed out in this forum by some albanians. furthermore, arent you all athiests and not related to religion. thats another thing many albs here say.
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Post by gavrilo on Nov 4, 2009 19:48:21 GMT -5
and asen, it would be more logical if you stopped relating everything in the world to the old bulgarian empire. i think that would be logical.
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Post by gavrilo on Nov 4, 2009 19:51:02 GMT -5
oh and asen, there is a between serbs and serbia. there are serbs outside of serbia the state. so there is serbia, then there is serbian land. understand? i hope i walked you through it so you can understand my logic.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Nov 4, 2009 20:12:50 GMT -5
yo whats up with the last quote toskali? i thought albanians were mostly christian and not muslim? thats what keeps getting pointed out in this forum by some albanians. furthermore, arent you all athiests and not related to religion. thats another thing many albs here say. Its an out of context quote that I have done on purpose to tick off some of my compatriots. If you note all the periods, Im skipping through an entire paragraph and picking out the words that are connected to create the effect. Also, the Christians he is talking about are almost all Macedonians.
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Post by cedorsk on Nov 5, 2009 4:49:17 GMT -5
Not that there is any evidence which proves today’s Albanians were the direct descendents of Dardania.
If the international community allowed Kosovo to be renamed Dardania (which incidentally they don't).
I would expect that today’s Albanians would also go back to "their" Dardanian roots and all Kosovo Muslims become Christians and all the Mosques are rebuilt as Churches, I believe mostly Catholic as this was a Roman province.
This is what you want, right?
Or is it that you don't really care about your origin?
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Post by PrijesDardanian on Nov 5, 2009 9:06:06 GMT -5
First, "KOSOVA" name have been created after invading of Turks...and turks called KosovA (not Kosovo) because is turkish word (not slavic).
Like "Metohija" which is Byzantine word (not slavic).
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Post by ivo on Nov 5, 2009 9:30:36 GMT -5
As far as I know, the Turks have a word that resembles this.. however, Kosova is a derivative of Kosovo which is of Slavic origin.
Yes Metohija has Byzantine roots, and I think it means something like "Land of Churches".
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Post by tito on Nov 5, 2009 9:39:14 GMT -5
First, "KOSOVA" name have been created after invading of Turks...and turks called KosovA (not Kosovo) because is turkish word (not slavic). Like "Metohija" which is Byzantine word (not slavic). You cant expect Serbian fanatics to understand, they don’t even seem to realize that Kosova is an independent state, independent from Serbia and Serb expansionist ideals which this topic is based on. What Serb fanatics think is totally irrelevant when it comes to the independent state of Kosova. In fact the republic of Turkey still calls Serbia with Vojvodina "Serbistan" ;D and serb fanatics cant do a thing to change that.
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Post by ioan on Nov 5, 2009 11:09:45 GMT -5
Turks do call Bulgaria Bulgaristan and Greece Yunistan, so what? Stan means a state in Turkish I think. Why should we do smth about it? Its their language.
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Post by ivo on Nov 5, 2009 11:23:50 GMT -5
Other examples are Kazakhstan, Afganistan, Tajikistan etc.
An interesting fact is that the Volga Bulgars, whose republic today is purposfully called Tatarstan was actually called Bulgaristan about 100 years ago.
And like Ioan said, so what? What's your point exactly? Different languages pronaunce country names in a different way.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Nov 5, 2009 15:42:26 GMT -5
Other examples are Kazakhstan, Afganistan, Tajikistan etc. An interesting fact is that the Volga Bulgars, whose republic today is purposfully called Tatarstan was actually called Bulgaristan about 100 years ago. And like Ioan said, so what? What's your point exactly? Different languages pronaunce country names in a different way. This is not a point and again your example is wrong. Bulgaristan means something in Turkish language Land/state of Bulgars. Kosovo or Kosova does not mean anything in Albanian language and that is the point of this topic.
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Post by todhrimencuri on Nov 5, 2009 16:30:07 GMT -5
Turks do call Bulgaria Bulgaristan and Greece Yunistan, so what? Stan means a state in Turkish I think. Why should we do smth about it? Its their language. Stan means land of in Persian. Turks adopted it. Yunanistan = "Land of the Ionians". Yunan is the old Persian word for Greek. Istan is also related to the Persian term astana, which means city. In Greek its to astu.
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Post by cedorsk on Nov 5, 2009 17:18:16 GMT -5
Thank You, Sh1 Shonic!!!
The Albinoids seem to be having problems with that.
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Post by bordura on Nov 6, 2009 0:51:05 GMT -5
This is ridiculous; words, names, are used in every language the way that particular language adopts them. Whats the big deal? Origin of the word is very different thing from the fact how the word is spelled and pronounced in different languages. Spanish speaking people call Denmark Dinamarka so what ? Greeks call Albania Alvania and we call it Shqiperia. Italians call Deuchtland Allemania, English call it Germany. Whats your point? You want Albanians to pronounce Kosovo? It doesn't come easy its that simple. Beograd also become Belgrade in English and it means nothing in English as Belgrade. Torino it is called Turin in USA, Constantinople has turned to Istanbul. No one complains about that. you cant change some others nation pronunciation to fit yours.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Nov 6, 2009 1:02:24 GMT -5
This is ridiculous; words, names, are used in every language the way that particular language adopts them. Whats the big deal? Origin of the word is very different thing from the fact how the word is spelled and pronounced in different languages. Spanish speaking people call Denmark Dinamarka so what ? Greeks call Albania Alvania and we call it Shqiperia. Italians call Deuchtland Allemania, English call it Germany. Whats your point? You want Albanians to pronounce Kosovo? It doesn't come easy its that simple. Beograd also become Belgrade in English and it means nothing in English as Belgrade. Torino it is called Turin in USA, Constantinople has turned to Istanbul. No one complains about that. you cant change some others nation pronunciation to fit yours. That's true. It just sounds retarded when said as Kosova for some reason.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Nov 6, 2009 1:31:48 GMT -5
This is ridiculous; words, names, are used in every language the way that particular language adopts them. Whats the big deal? Origin of the word is very different thing from the fact how the word is spelled and pronounced in different languages. Spanish speaking people call Denmark Dinamarka so what ? Greeks call Albania Alvania and we call it Shqiperia. Italians call Deuchtland Allemania, English call it Germany. Whats your point? You want Albanians to pronounce Kosovo? It doesn't come easy its that simple. Beograd also become Belgrade in English and it means nothing in English as Belgrade. Torino it is called Turin in USA, Constantinople has turned to Istanbul. No one complains about that. you cant change some others nation pronunciation to fit yours. You do not get it. Call it Kosovo or Kosova it does not mean anything in Albanian language and that is the point of this topic. Got it?
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Post by insomniac on Nov 6, 2009 4:57:25 GMT -5
Ok but who claimed that it means something in the first place?
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Post by cedorsk on Nov 6, 2009 6:31:07 GMT -5
~Bordur, so why are you (Albanians) trying to change the name and why do you call it Kosova even in English, when it's English name is Kosovo?
~Insomniac, I am so glad we finally agree on something, that's exactly right, it has no Albanian association.
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