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Post by Pejoni on Jun 3, 2008 10:20:36 GMT -5
There are over 1,500,000 Albanians in Kosovo who are 1st, 2nd or 3rd generation colonizers. Its like saying 90% of K-Serbs are from Krajina
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Post by terroreign on Jun 3, 2008 12:56:32 GMT -5
Deucaon has no proof to attest to this, leave him be with his serv propaganda
Kosovo - Always and forever Albanian!!
Kosovo was Albanian ----> 0 (beginning of time) - 2008 !!!!!
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Post by filomen on Jun 4, 2008 4:32:42 GMT -5
I dont had study none of those church despite two that I said and alsou the church in decani region are buildet before the 14 sc and they were catholic one after become orthodoks this praktice was explain by ostrogorski a serb professor i think and deucaon y must join the funy dancing group below ;D
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Post by donnie on Jun 4, 2008 7:55:12 GMT -5
There are over 1,500,000 Albanians in Kosovo who are 1st, 2nd or 3rd generation colonizers. Proove it! The institutionally organized Serbian colonization of Kosova is well documented, especially by Serbs. Read Djordje Krstic's "Kolonizacija". But Albanians being 1st, 2nd and 3rd colonists (not colonizers) ... never seen evidence for such a claim.
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Post by albaniansoul on Jun 5, 2008 4:05:19 GMT -5
There are over 1,500,000 Albanians in Kosovo who are 1st, 2nd or 3rd generation colonizers. Yes of course, what are you Serbs gonna do about it? Cry yourselfs to sleep? Get real, ape.
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Post by terroreign on Jun 5, 2008 4:30:33 GMT -5
Kosovo is Albania! Stfu or Gtfo!
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Post by Arxileas on Jun 5, 2008 8:48:22 GMT -5
Proove it!
The institutionally organized Serbian colonization of Kosova is well documented, especially by Serbs. Read Djordje Krstic's "Kolonizacija".
But Albanians being 1st, 2nd and 3rd colonists (not colonizers) ... never seen evidence for such a claim. Oh please ! It is historically documented by facts that the Serbs were there before any Albanians ever were there, so having said this, how can they become the colonisers So according to your logic the American Indians are the colonisers of the U.S of America LOL !
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Post by donnie on Jun 5, 2008 9:00:44 GMT -5
Where has it been 'prooven' that Serbs were there 'before the Albanians'? Huh moron?
How was Kosova colonized? Well, when Kosova was annexed by Serbia, the Serbian population in Kosova composed 24 per cent. The Serbian officials wanted to increase this figures by bringing in Serbs who NEVER lived in Kosova to settle there, Serbs from Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia and Montenegro. These are called colonists, and they formed new settlements or colonies tha were given symbolical names drawn from Serbian mythology, such as 'Devet Jugovica' ('The Nine Jugovices') etc.
Altogether, sme 70,000Serbs, or 10 per cent of Kosova's population, were brought in as colonists and land distributed to them were previously confiscated from the Albanians.
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Post by Arxileas on Jun 5, 2008 10:03:41 GMT -5
Where has it been 'prooven' that Serbs were there 'before the Albanians'? Huh moron? How was Kosova colonized? Well, when Kosova was annexed by Serbia, the Serbian population in Kosova composed 24 per cent. The Serbian officials wanted to increase this figures by bringing in Serbs who NEVER lived in Kosova to settle there, Serbs from Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia and Montenegro. These are called colonists, and they formed new settlements or colonies tha were given symbolical names drawn from Serbian mythology, such as 'Devet Jugovica' ('The Nine Jugovices') etc. Altogether, sme 70,000Serbs, or 10 per cent of Kosova's population, were brought in as colonists and land distributed to them were previously confiscated from the Albanians. Can you pin point the first Albanian arrival in that region for me ? Found this;Early history Main articles: Prehistoric Balkans, Moesia Superior, History of Medieval Kosovo, First Bulgarian Empire, and History of Medieval Serbia During the Neolithic period, the region of Kosovo lay within the extent of the Vinča-Turdaş culture. In the 4th to 3rd centuries BC, it was the territory of the Thraco-Illyrian tribe of the Dardani, forming part of the kingdom of Illyria. Illyria was conquered by Rome in the 160s BC, and made the Roman province of Illyricum in 59 BC. The Kosovo region became part of Moesia Superior in AD 87. The Slavic migrations reached the Balkans in the 6th to 7th century. The area was absorbed into the Bulgarian Empire in the 850s, where Christianity and Slavic culture was cemented in the region. It was re-taken by the Byzantines after 1018. As the center of Slavic resistance to Constantinople in the region, it often switched between Serbian and Bulgarian rule on one hand and Byzantine on the other until the Serb principality of Rascia conquered it by the end of the 11th century. The Kosovo region became part of Moesia Superior in AD 87. The Slavic migrations reached the Balkans in the 6th to 7th century. Fully absorbed into the Serbian Kingdom until the end of the 12th, it became the secular and spiritual center of the Serbian medieval state of the Nemanyiden dynasty in the 13th century, with the Patriarchate of the Serbian Orthodox Church in Peć, while Prizren was the secular center. The zenith was reached with the formation of a Serbian Empire in 1346, which after 1371 transformed from a centralized absolutist medieval monarchy to a feudal realm. Kosovo became the hereditary land of the House of Branković and Vučitrn and Pristina flourished. Kosovo region within Serbian Kingdom c. 1265 Kosovo region within Serbian Kingdom c. 1265 In the 1389 Battle of Kosovo, Ottoman forces defeated a coalition led by Lazar Hrebeljanović. In 1402, a Serbian Despotate was raised and Kosovo became its richest territory, famous for mines. The local House of Branković came to prominence as the local lords of Kosovo, under Vuk Branković, with the temporary fall of the Serbian Despotate in 1439. During the first fall of Serbia, Novo Brdo and Kosovo offered last resistance to the invading Ottomans in 1441; in 1455, it was finally and fully conquered by the Ottoman Empire. Ottoman Kosovo (1455 to 1912) Main article: History of Ottoman Kosovo Further information: Vilayet of Kosovo and History of Ottoman Serbia Kosovo was part of the Ottoman Empire from 1455 to 1912, at first as part of the eyalet of Rumelia, and from 1864 as a separate province. Kosovo was briefly taken by the Austrian forces during the Great War of 1683–1699 with help of 6,000 Albanian fighters led by Pjetër Bogdani. In 1690, the Serbian Patriarch of Peć Arsenije III led 37,000 predominantly Serbian families out of Kosovo. More migrations of Orthodox Christians from the Kosovo area continued throughout the 18th century. In 1766, the Ottomans abolished the Patriarchate of Peć and the position of Christians in Kosovo deteriorated, including full imposition of jizya (taxation of non-Muslims). In contrast, many Albanian chiefs converted to Islam and gained prominent positions in the Turkish regimen.[7] On the whole, "Albanians had little cause of unrest" and "if anything, grew important in Ottoman internal affairs."[8] The final result of four and a half centuries of Muslim rule was a marked decline in the previously dominant Slavic Christian demographic element in Kosovo, replaced by a Turko-Albanian [9] stratum. In the 19th century, there was a "awakening" of ethnic nationalism throughout the Balkans. The ethnic Albanian nationalism movement was centred in Kosovo. In 1871, a Serbian meeting was held in Prizren at which the possible retaking and reintegration of Kosovo and the rest of "Old Serbia" was discussed, as the Principality of Serbia itself had already made plans for expansions towards Ottoman territory. In 1878, a Peace Accord was drawn that left the cities of Pristina and Kosovska Mitrovica under civil Serbian control, and outside Ottoman jurisdiction, while the rest of Kosovo remained under Ottoman control. As a response, ethnic Albanians formed the League of Prizren, pursuing political aspirations of unifying the Albanian people under the Ottoman umbrella. 20th century Main article: 20th century history of Kosovo Balkan Wars to World War I The Young Turk movement supported a centralist rule and opposed any sort of autonomy desired by Kosovars, and particularly the Albanians. In 1910, an Albanian uprising spread from Pristina and lasted until the Ottoman Sultan's visit to Kosovo in June of 1911. In 1912, during the Balkan Wars, most of Kosovo was captured by the Kingdom of Serbia, while the region of Metohija (Albanian: Dukagjini Valley) was taken by the Kingdom of Montenegro. An exodus of the local Albanian population occurred. This was described by Leon Trotsky, who was a reporter for the Pravda newspaper at the time. The Serbian authorities planned a re-colonization of Kosovo.[10] Numerous colonist Serb families moved into Kosovo, equalizing the demographic balance between Albanians and Serbs. Kosovo's status within Serbia was finalised the following year at the Treaty of London.[11] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kosovo
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Post by engers on Jun 5, 2008 10:14:03 GMT -5
Kosovo was Albanian and will be Albanian.
KOSOVO IS INDEPENDENT
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Post by donnie on Jun 5, 2008 14:05:16 GMT -5
It was not me who claimed knowing the date of the Albanians' arrival in Kosova or ancient Dardania. It was you. So it's your task to proove we came after the Slavs (Serbs), not me to refute something you haven't even established.
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Post by vinjak on Jun 5, 2008 18:11:53 GMT -5
Arxileas they dont like going back past 1912
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Post by Arxileas on Jun 5, 2008 21:51:21 GMT -5
Arxileas they dont like going back past 1912 Then there is a problem for them !
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Post by Toskaliku on Jun 5, 2008 22:13:20 GMT -5
If we go before the nation-state era, then we can just say that we (as indigenous people of the Balkans) are simply retaking what the Serbs took... We simply retook what was unjustly taken from us centuries earlier. Call it a case of retribution. ;D
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Jun 8, 2008 12:59:04 GMT -5
I dont had study none of those church despite two that I said and alsou the church in decani region are buildet before the 14 sc and they were catholic one after become orthodoks this praktice was explain by ostrogorski a serb professor i think and deucaon y must join the funy dancing group below ;D Filomen do you want me to beat your claims with only one question? Are you ready for it?
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Post by fannoli on Jun 10, 2008 12:43:20 GMT -5
I guess Serbs thought that they could colonize Kosovo and keep Albanian divided from their own kind. Your plan didnt work so well.
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Post by vinjak on Jun 11, 2008 4:37:44 GMT -5
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