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Post by insomniac on Jul 3, 2009 11:53:15 GMT -5
You're also a bigger country with a much larger pop which means you sent more athletes. Look at Bosnia(with 4.5mil) and Montenegro at the end of the list.
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Post by SKORIC on Jul 3, 2009 11:53:11 GMT -5
lololol now they're gonna blame it on us having a 50 year head start etc etc...
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Jul 3, 2009 11:57:23 GMT -5
You're also a bigger country with a larger pop. Look at Bosnia and Montenegro at the end of the list. Look at Slovenia and Cyprus ahead of you with smaller population then Albania.
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Post by SKORIC on Jul 3, 2009 11:57:38 GMT -5
You're also a bigger country with a larger pop. Look at Bosnia and Montenegro at the end of the list. We're infront of France etc in some of those lists. Dont blame it on the population now. We dont really care about these sports though, we're more into team sports.. yet we're still better then you guys lol..
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Post by insomniac on Jul 3, 2009 11:58:02 GMT -5
Cyprus is only 2 medals ahead and we'll catch up to them.
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Post by insomniac on Jul 3, 2009 12:00:04 GMT -5
You're also a bigger country with a larger pop. Look at Bosnia and Montenegro at the end of the list. We're infront of France etc in some of those lists. Dont blame it on the population now. We dont really care about these sports though, we're more into team sports.. yet we're still better then you guys lol.. Whether you like it or not population has a lot to do with it. United States and Russia we'll always win more medals because they have a bigger population which means they will sent more athletes.
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Post by insomniac on Jul 3, 2009 12:08:47 GMT -5
You're also a bigger country with a larger pop. Look at Bosnia and Montenegro at the end of the list. We're infront of France etc in some of those lists. Dont blame it on the population now. We dont really care about these sports though, we're more into team sports.. yet we're still better then you guys lol.. Except you are not as good as you think. Albania has the population of Belgrade and its vicinities. It's not an achievement to be 15 million people and win 28 medals. It's proportional to size.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jul 3, 2009 12:27:50 GMT -5
Here we go with handball again. This didn't even make local news. Most people dont even know we have a handball team?
And we'll most likely rape Serbia in wrestling, judo, karate, boxing and shooting.
What can I say Serbs are very good at handling other people's balls.
And when the results shows that Serbia is pretty much better than Albania in every sport! u start with who got more population, plz give me a break.
You guys started the dick measuring and lost, now chill down.
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Post by SKORIC on Jul 3, 2009 12:45:23 GMT -5
Yah.. thats why India is so good at sports lol..
China and india should be football champions of the world using your logic. But what are they good at? India are only good at Cricket.. China table tennis, gymnastics, diving (China are good at alot of sports) etc reason might be that they arent traditionally good at sports like Football so they dont fund it as much. Same thing could be true with Albania not being traditionally good at handball etc thus not funding it as much. But even in what you say are your more stronger sports, you guys still arent that good.
If population was the main factor (and ill admit population is a big factor, but not a major factor) then how were Serbia/Yugoslavia able to become world champions in basketball more times then the USA and the Soviet Union? How do we have the same amount of medals all up with both of them?
Serbia doesnt have a 15 million population. You're right when you say its not a big achievment though.. We never said we were that spectacular at these sports.. we're just better then you guys.. even though we couldnt care less about them while you guys do.
So whats left? Weightlifting? Dont know much about it but Albs are probably better. But hey even cavemen would be able to do that sport..
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Post by Pejoni on Jul 3, 2009 13:37:27 GMT -5
I have yet to Serbia win Kosovo in anything, even Bajrami (born in Kosovo) humiliated your "glorious" U21.
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Post by insomniac on Jul 3, 2009 13:41:51 GMT -5
Yah.. thats why India is so good at sports lol.. China and india should be football champions of the world using your logic. But what are they good at? India are only good at Cricket.. China table tennis, gymnastics, diving (China are good at alot of sports) etc reason might be that they arent traditionally good at sports like Football so they dont fund it as much. Same thing could be true with Albania not being traditionally good at handball etc thus not funding it as much. But even in what you say are your more stronger sports, you guys still arent that good. If population was the main factor (and ill admit population is a big factor, but not a major factor) then how were Serbia/Yugoslavia able to become world champions in basketball more times then the USA and the Soviet Union? How do we have the same amount of medals all up with both of them? Serbia doesnt have a 15 million population. You're right when you say its not a big achievment though.. We never said we were that spectacular at these sports.. we're just better then you guys.. even though we couldnt care less about them while you guys do. So whats left? Weightlifting? Dont know much about it but Albs are probably better. But hey even cavemen would be able to do that sport.. Matter of the fact is Albania is pretty good in weightlifting, boxing and wrestling. Even in Athletics we are not doing pretty bad. Because you send a thousand athletes due to larger pop. and we sent 12 athletes. It does not mean you are over achievers. Those 12 people that we sent, 6 of them brought back medals and the rest silver and bronze.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jul 3, 2009 13:42:51 GMT -5
Maybe because kosovo havent participated in anything? Born in Kosovo dont count dickwise. Its wich country u play for lol, no one said Albanians suck at sports, but ALBANIA do.
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Post by insomniac on Jul 3, 2009 13:46:00 GMT -5
^ Being born somewhere does matter. For example when Serbia suffers economically a lot of Serb athletes will represent other countries and Serbia will become "worse" at sports. But that does not mean you are bad at sports.
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Post by Pejoni on Jul 3, 2009 13:55:30 GMT -5
Maybe because kosovo havent participated in anything? Born in Kosovo dont count dickwise. Its wich country u play for lol, no one said Albanians suck at sports, but ALBANIA do. Did you bother wathing the video?
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Post by Pejoni on Jul 3, 2009 13:56:59 GMT -5
^ Being born somewhere does matter. For example when Serbia suffers economically a lot of Serb athletes will represent other countries and Serbia will become "worse" at sports. But that does not mean you are bad at sports. Eh, Albania has Kosovo to kick their asses, just like in ol' times. Even in Yugoslavia, their best boxers were all ALBANIANS.
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Post by SKORIC on Jul 3, 2009 13:58:59 GMT -5
Thats like the 5th time in a couple of weeks that i see an alb post that video. Keep clinging to it to make yourselves feel better. Insomniac, just admit it.. You said Albania were gonna "rape" us in those sports. Why werent you bringing the population difference then? btw Serbia's population to Albania's population isnt a 1000-12 ratio lol.. You guys should send almost half the athletes we do since your population is almost half of ours (not including independent kosova ofcourse ) p.s. we dont send 1000 athletes anywhere lol.. i dont think anyone does..
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Post by coke&broke on Jul 3, 2009 14:15:28 GMT -5
Actually, Albanians in the diaspora do much better than the Serbs who also live outside Serbia's borders. Just check the youth teams of Sweden, Switzerland, Germany etc. in various sports and you'd find more Albanians representing them. And these are countries with similar amounts of Albanian and Serbian immigrants. The fact that Albanians only started to immigrate to these countries in numbers in the last 10-15 years shows the competitive nature of our youth. It's a shame that many of these athletes will not represent Albania but rather their adoptive countries in international competitions. It all boils down to the amenities and sports infrastructure Serbia has in comparison to Albania.This has NOTHING to do with natural ability, otherwise you'd expect Africans to be succesfull in the sprint competitions; and they're definitely not, unless they move to the US or Europe to hone their skills. And yes Albanians are physically stronger than Serbs, we have already proven that with our numerous Boxing, Judo, weightlifting, mixed martial arts World and European Champions. Unfortunately for us the vast majority of these athletes do not represent Albania. Serbs on the other hand are more organized and disciplined as a group, hence their success in team sports.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jul 3, 2009 14:41:41 GMT -5
Just accept that you lost big time.
An Albanian who plays for Sweden has as much to do with Albania as i do with China, Albania didn't train him up and sent him to Sweden, he got the training there. Is it so hard to understand, everything has to do how well you are being trained and how your country,club sponsors you. Why do you think so much sport events has taken place in Serbia the last 2 years, not just Sport but other stuff to, its all because of the sponsorship.
What an Albanian achieve playing for France, Germany, UK has absolutely nothing to do with Albania, its like saying Bosnians are world known footballers just because Ibrahimovic whos parent are from Bosnia.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Jul 3, 2009 14:56:23 GMT -5
^ Being born somewhere does matter. For example when Serbia suffers economically a lot of Serb athletes will represent other countries and Serbia will become "worse" at sports. But that does not mean you are bad at sports. Eh, Albania has Kosovo to kick their asses, just like in ol' times. Even in Yugoslavia, their best boxers were all ALBANIANS. Best boxers in Yugoslavia were Mate Parlov (Croatian) and Slobodan Kacar (Serbian) ,the only good boxer Albanian I can recall was Salihu but he did not achieve as much as those two boxers that I mention did. You are misinformed.
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Post by Ja Ona i Pivo on Jul 3, 2009 15:01:12 GMT -5
it stings doesn't it :=)
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