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Post by terroreign on Jun 25, 2009 1:23:10 GMT -5
They have a powerful mafia?
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Post by bob1389 on Jun 25, 2009 1:46:38 GMT -5
::crickets chirp:: ::hay stack rolls by:: *whooosh*
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Post by insomniac on Jun 25, 2009 1:58:47 GMT -5
Black people are pretty good in sports too. Sometimes being a big dumb slav just doesnt cut it. Well at least give us SOMETHING... ANYTHING.. that Albanians have done to be proud of. I certainly don't need to tell or account to you for anything. I am proud of my heritage and history. What do South Slavs have to be proud of anyway? Their sports achievements are average unless its girly sports like waterpolo or tennis. But who the hell cheers & prides for waterpolo anyway? Nobody cares or gives a chit. In the west the only conceptions people have of Serbia or Bosnia is genocide, wars,,,etc Actually in the paper that i picked up few weeks it was headline news: "Serb massacres graves found in Bosnia". Heck that's the conception i had when i was a kid. I thought these were exotic places in Africa were people killed each other. It's only recently i learned that they unfortunately were our neighbours.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 25, 2009 2:18:46 GMT -5
Black people are pretty good in sports too. Sometimes being a big dumb slav just doesnt cut it. Well at least give us SOMETHING... ANYTHING.. that Albanians have done to be proud of. well, that's just a stupid question anyway because any race, even in their passivity, have accomplished more than the serbs whose name is synonymous with mass murder, concentration camps, the first country to declare itself jew-free, genocide, inciting racial hatred, the last contry in europe to establish concentration camps and in the 90's .... lets take a pause here, IN THE 90'S!!!!!!!!! oh what else, oh yeah, yo have managed to antagonize and sourrounded yourself by neighbours that hate you, you were the only...i repeat....the only 'EUROPEAN' country to get blasted by NATO...in the 21 CENTUARY no less, you think you're gonna cancel that out by winning a handball tournament? serbs are, to all intents and purposes, a backward, hateful, unrefined, tribal and rudementary race whose thirst for blood is only exceeded by their greed to steal land and history.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jun 25, 2009 2:19:50 GMT -5
lol you are Albanian but you didn't even know until recently that Serbia & Bosnia are in the same region.
Being world & European basketball champions on numerous occasions & having teams regularly participate in soccer, handball, waterpolo, volleyball - European & World championships (…ie the most popular global sports), they aren’t average achievements. In any case the point is Albania can’t even get in to these competitions in the first place. They never even have. You can’t even pull off a couple of random individual champions like Djokovic, Ivanovic, Janica Kostelic… For shame.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 25, 2009 2:29:21 GMT -5
alrite all of those are accomplishements, well done, you have achieved a lot in sports, you're had a 50 year head start ok? and athleticly you are very good, largely due to the fact that no longer than 3 generations ago your forefathers were a bunch of primates, but that's neither here no there...i just wouldn't dare take a banana from one you guys,
but what's that got to do with anything? should i feel inferior to you because some of your bretheren shoot a few hoops? run track? or make it into big football tournaments? is achievement in sports some sort of a social status i am not aware of, should i start calling a master now?
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Post by insomniac on Jun 25, 2009 2:57:13 GMT -5
they aren’t average achievements?
In that case Black people have achieved a lot esp. since their presence is in every sport (basketball,,etc) A genetic predisposition is not an achievement. I would say it is more of an advantage. But fair enough you can pride in that. I'm not going to deny you that. I just could care less if you win handball or waterpolo tournaments.
I pride myself in other things. Also, Albanians are pretty good in boxing, wrestling and weightlifting. They are considered sports as well. In weightlifting we have been at the top of the charts in Europe and the World. In boxing as well. We have had similar success as you have in water splashing.
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Post by terroreign on Jun 25, 2009 3:02:31 GMT -5
There's nothing 'girly' about waterpolo lol...
So doing well in sports makes a country or people more primitive? are you serious?
It makes more sense that Albania just never had good trainers, or never really funded their sports programs...
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Post by insomniac on Jun 25, 2009 3:09:23 GMT -5
First time i saw people talk about waterpolo and en masse be proud of it was Serbia forum. Damn, you must have run out of things to take pride in such silly things.
There's nothing 'girly' about waterpolo lol...
I guess enough time splashing water works out your abs and arms. Still not as manly or intensive as weightlifting 300 pounds on your shoulder. Or endurance exercise like boxing.
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Post by zgembo on Jun 25, 2009 3:13:19 GMT -5
What the hell is the problem with these Shiptars? They call us Turks yet they converted to Islam, stole our land in concert with the Turks and are most often associated with Turks in the Balkans. They say we have no history, yet their modern state is a hundred years younger than ours, they never had a medieval state and weren't even mentioned in any historical records until like the 15th century. It's ridiculous! All the Shiptars who lived in the former Yugoslavia were treated as a social and genetic class related to Gypsies, yet these internet warriors would have you think all Albanians are Roman emperors and knights.
I mean give us a break already! It's obvious you guys are just trying to compensate for your inferiority complexes. Getting into a verbal spouting match with kids over the internet (and being ignorant of all reason and fact) doesn't make you equal to us.
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Post by insomniac on Jun 25, 2009 3:25:15 GMT -5
Serbs known for genocide, war criminality, rape camps,,, giving lesson on social and genetics. I don't know which really has an inferiority complex.
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Post by vinjak on Jun 25, 2009 3:29:26 GMT -5
is achievement in sports some sort of a social status i am not aware of, should i start calling a master now?
Not a social status but an achievement of a nations people shows character,determination,strength and pride in competing with other Nations peoples.
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Post by terroreign on Jun 25, 2009 3:30:40 GMT -5
You must not go to Europe often then...it's pretty popular over there.
People take pride in their teams all around the world, from the Red Sox-Yankees rivalry to the Rangers & Celtic
Waterpolo demands tons of endurance, try playing...
Weightlifting and boxing aren't team sports...and nowhere near as popular as Waterpolo is globally
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Post by vinjak on Jun 25, 2009 3:32:29 GMT -5
Serbs known for genocide, war criminality, rape camps,,, giving lesson on social and genetics. I don't know which really has an inferiority complex. What a fkn idiotic thing to say was this just a backlash or are you reall that stupid ?
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Post by insomniac on Jun 25, 2009 3:39:08 GMT -5
Weightlifting and boxing aren't team sports...and nowhere near as popular as Waterpolo is globally
It just shows the character of a nation. Albanians being good at weightlifting and boxing shows individuality, roughness and leadership. Serbs succeeding in sports like water ball or hand ball shows organization, team-playing and all group qualities. You really come as a group and theres nothing particular about your people and i say that's really gay.
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Post by zgembo on Jun 25, 2009 3:40:19 GMT -5
Serbs known for genocide, war criminality, rape camps,,, giving lesson on social and genetics. I don't know which really has an inferiority complex. If you say so. But only somebody who is largely ignorant of the Balkans would make that kind of association (and why should I care what such a person thinks?). Fact of the matter is, the aspects of culture you guys insist on being superior to us are downright ridiculous and ignorant of any and all facts. Albania "the land where history was born". Serbia "a Turko-Iranian colony in Europe" LOL I mean, give it a break, do you guys actually believe all the crap you spout?
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Post by insomniac on Jun 25, 2009 3:43:36 GMT -5
and why should I care what such a person thinks
You dont care even a little when the headline in the Canadian daily reads: "New Serb massacre graves found in Bosnia".
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Post by zgembo on Jun 25, 2009 3:55:20 GMT -5
No, I don't. If anything I'd rather have that (and the ignorant Canadian thinking Serbs are badasses) than seeing something like "Serbian refugees crowd camps" and "Serbs found massacred" (and people thinking I am a refugee welfare case, and being associated with poverty and destituteness).
None of that is neither here nor there. I rarely associate with the ignorant person whose only knowledge of Serbia comes from glancing a headline in a local newspaper. University-educated people are almost never that ignorant. So why should I care what some white trash hillbilly thinks?
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 25, 2009 4:10:37 GMT -5
is achievement in sports some sort of a social status i am not aware of, should i start calling a master now? Not a social status but an achievement of a nations people shows character,determination,strength and pride in competing with other Nations peoples. no it doesn't it shows a spirit of competetiveness, only serbs place so much meaning behind, what ultimately is, just a sport, it shows skill and character...of those involved, fighting for once counciousness, shedding blood to protect your heritage, language and the land of forefathers, that is pride and a national identity, not sports, sports give you a fleeting sense of being proud, its not something to us to express superiority when comparing with other nations.
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Post by Lib-Fier on Jun 25, 2009 4:18:08 GMT -5
Fact of the matter is, the aspects of culture you guys insist on being superior to us are downright ridiculous and ignorant of any and all facts
we are steeped in authentic culture mate, no matter how you slice it, we have been here longer than you and you have fed off our culture and history for centuries, noting wrong with that, just like we have fed off the civilisations of greeks and romans, whether you like it or not its another story, you can be proud of your country and i'll be proud of mine, we all see things from different perspectives, every country has its own set of collective memories which make people be proud, no need to sheet on anyone's beliefs...having said that, the truth needs to be exposed and in many cases the serbian propaganda has really taken the piss out of history.
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