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Post by ioan on Jun 19, 2009 14:03:59 GMT -5
I m not very aware of this. I mean I know historically the Croats amd the Serbs lived in different states. That might ve contributed to feeling as belonging to a different nation. Also the different faith. I know you have almost the same language. So is there a orthodox Croat and a catholic Serb?
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jun 19, 2009 14:15:04 GMT -5
No.
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Post by SKORIC on Jun 19, 2009 14:23:07 GMT -5
Well my girlfriend's dad is catholic but considers himself Serb (though he isnt religious or nationalist anyways) since his dad was baptised into a catholic because of the ustase in ww2 and was raised into a Croat. I think even if he was older and wanted to convert back to orthodox it didnt matter cause it was during commie times. Dont know the full story though pretty confusing..
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Post by ioan on Jun 19, 2009 14:33:35 GMT -5
Aha, so it is very rare... and acception... yet you both agree you are different nation... is it because of living in different state or because the faiths different? do u think if u had the same faith u d ve been one nation?
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Post by SKORIC on Jun 19, 2009 14:46:29 GMT -5
Faith difference. Im from Croatia so living in different states has nothing to do with it, religion and culture is the big difference. Plus Serbs have bigger dicks while the Croat sh**ng is more checkered.
Nah..
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Post by ioan on Jun 19, 2009 14:53:01 GMT -5
Why not? You said the big difference is the faith . In Bulgaria we have very small perecent Catholics (under 1 I think) and there is no difference between orthodox and catholic Bulgarians. But we lived in the same state though... Skoric, Croatia is very beautiful, I ve been only in Dubrovnik, Neum and other costal towns there.
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Post by SKORIC on Jun 19, 2009 15:12:09 GMT -5
It is a big difference. But we were different people before we became orthodox and catholic so im just basing it on that.. dont know how it would have been now if we were the same religion but look at the Orthodox Montenegrins who dont consider themselves Serb.. (even though thats different because they really are ) oo the Bosnians wouldnt like you calling Neum Croatian Though i think if Cikola reads that he will orgasm.
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Post by ioan on Jun 19, 2009 15:31:40 GMT -5
Yaiks about Neum .
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Post by rusebg on Jun 19, 2009 16:58:06 GMT -5
Welcome to the club. At least they don't display the hatred fyromians show to us.
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Post by radovic on Jun 19, 2009 17:13:12 GMT -5
It is a big difference. But we were different people before we became orthodox and catholic so im just basing it on that.. dont know how it would have been now if we were the same religion but look at the Orthodox Montenegrins who dont consider themselves Serb.. (even though thats different because they really are ) oo the Bosnians wouldnt like you calling Neum Croatian Though i think if Cikola reads that he will orgasm. The Montes you refer to { the villagers in Cetinje and places around } constitute less then 10% of the Montenegrins in Montenegro.
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Post by terroreign on Jun 19, 2009 17:50:39 GMT -5
According to an orthodox Croatian who thinks hes a serb. Yet we somehow control every aspect of culture and politics in Montenegro Basically, 90% of the orthodox population in Croatia are ethnic Croats. Just like 90% of the serb population in Montenegro are ethnic Montenegrin.
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Post by Novus Dis on Jun 19, 2009 19:24:37 GMT -5
There was one during WW2 when Pavelic set up the Croatian Orthodox Church but nobody joined it. I wonder why. Anyway, it works like this: Men in the Balkans carry on the name and religion. Women are just surrogate baby factories who change their name and religion once they marry. This is the general rule. Keep in mind that at the height of crossbreeding, barely 1/5th of families were mixed.
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Post by ioan on Jun 19, 2009 21:49:37 GMT -5
Welcome to the club. At least they don't display the hatred fyromians show to us. exactly
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Jun 19, 2009 22:36:58 GMT -5
According to an orthodox Croatian who thinks hes a serb. Yet we somehow control every aspect of culture and politics in Montenegro Basically, 90% of the orthodox population in Croatia are ethnic Croats. Just like 90% of the serb population in Montenegro are ethnic Montenegrin. Another person who does not understand the definition of ethnicity. I started a topic in the Bosnia forum on it for people like your self while you were away. It's not that hard to look up in a few dictionaries anyway so do yourself a favour.
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Post by SKORIC on Jun 19, 2009 23:33:49 GMT -5
lol Terroreign has a self prolaimed Serb in his avatar and yet Monte's arent Serb
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Post by Novi Pazar on Jun 20, 2009 0:32:03 GMT -5
"Welcome to the club. At least they don't display the hatred fyromians show to us."
Becareful what you and Ioan are saying here because that was a completely sloppy post which doesn't consider the historical past of vardarians.
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Post by ioan on Jun 20, 2009 0:34:42 GMT -5
Shut it Novi. Obviously the Serbs here are no fools and know where to look for real Serbs.
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Post by radovic on Jun 20, 2009 10:12:25 GMT -5
Yet we somehow control every aspect of culture and politics in Montenegro Lol. No you don't. The people themselves control the culture it's not Brdjani from Cetinje. Politics is controlled by Djukanovic. And he has on more then one occasion indicated that if he needed to form a coalition government he would gladly make on with the strongest Serb party dropping his Brdjani based Social Democratic Party [who would probably get 3 seats instead of the 6 or so Djukanovic gives them]. Anyways. The fact that the attempts to sieze Serb Church property by the uncanonical Monte Church has failed and that Djukanovic's government has rejected the Brdjani's proposal to move the capital to Cetinje shows how much they control Montenegro. Lol. Funny how you claim this yet 90% of the orthodox population in Croatia descends from the Great Serb migrations from Central Serbia and Kosovo in 1690 and 1737.
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Post by Sh1 Shonić on Jun 20, 2009 10:50:35 GMT -5
Lol. Funny how you claim this yet 90% of the orthodox population in Croatia descends from the Great Serb migrations from Central Serbia and Kosovo in 1690 and 1737. I iz Hercegovine i iz Crne Gore. Lika je npr. najverovartnije dobila ima po tome sto lici na krs Crne Gore. Ima i jedna anegdota: Kada se jedan poslanik Kralja Nikole (inace deklarisani Srbin) vratio iz posete Lici kralj ga upita: Lici li onaj narod na ono sto je nekad bio? Ovaj mu odgovara: Lici gospodaru. I tako je Lika navodno dobila ime. Inace imam rodbinu u Lici i svi pricaju Istocnohercegovackim (Crnogorskim) naglaskom i izgovorom npr: nijesam, dje, varenika............
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Post by terroreign on Jun 20, 2009 16:52:56 GMT -5
I meant the people in power of politics are all ethnic Montenegrins, not your so-called "serbs"
Yet our proposal for the adoption of the Montenegrin Language received majority support in parliament. And the serbian church wasnt put in the constitution like the SPC was begging for the government to do.
You can't prove the corrolation, the odds are that the majority of the population are indeed croats who converted and mixed with serbs.
Haha i nevjerovatno ima i druga prica...
His meaning of serb was different than yours or mine, it was a synonym for an orthodox christian, ethnically he saw himself as Montenegrin, this is supported by countless evidence.
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