Bozur
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Post by Bozur on Jan 11, 2010 19:41:09 GMT -5
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Australia: The USA Of Old April2007
This is exactly what the USA was all about and should be all about now. If you did not know this was from the Australia Government…you could have sworn they are talking about the USA…but, just shows how “political correctness” has run amuck in the US.
Quote: Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia , as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks. A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. “If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you”, he said on National Television. “I’d be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia : one the Australian law and another Islamic law that is false. If you can’t agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that’s a better option”, Costello said . Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should “clear off. Basically people who don’t want to be Australians, and who don’t want, to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off”, he said. Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation’s mosques. Quote: “IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave It. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali , we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians.” “However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the
‘politically correct’ crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia .” “However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand.” “This idea of Australia being a multi- cultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. And as Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle.” “This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom” “We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society . Learn the language!” “Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture.” “We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us.” “If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don’t like “A Fair Go”, then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet. We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don’t care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others. “This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, ‘THE RIGHT TO LEAVE’.” “If you aren’t happy here then LEAVE. We didn’t force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.” Hmm… I wonder how a ‘take it or leave it’ policy would work in Southern California?? How would you say that in Spanish??
74.125.93.132/search?q=cache:_ObdiIAI0UAJ:www.scribd.com/doc/46100/Australias-Stance-On-Political-Correctness+%27IMMIGRANTS,+NOT+AUSTRALIANS,+MUST+ADAPT.+Take+It+Or+Leave+It.+I+am+tired+of+this+nation+worrying+about+whether+we+are+offending+some+individual+or+their+culture.+Since+the+terrorist+attacks+onBali+,+we+have+experienced+a+surge+in+patriotism+by+the+majority+of+Australians%27.+%27This+culture+has+been+developed+over+two+centuries+of+struggles,+trials+and+victories+by+millions+of+men+and+women+who+have+sought+freedom%27.+%27We+speak+mainly+ENGLISH,+not+Spanish,+Lebanese,+Arabic,+Chinese,+Japanese,+Russian,+or+any+other+language.+Therefore,+if+you+wish+to+become+part+of+our+society+..+Learn+the+language!%27+%27Most+Australians+believe+in+God.&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 17, 2010 14:16:10 GMT -5
The basic idea is that the immigrants who move to a specific country are the ones who need to adapt to the cultural norms of such country and if they are antagonistic towards that they should not be welcomed to move there.
Interesting view.
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Post by hellboy87 on Jan 17, 2010 14:32:40 GMT -5
It's sooo DUH Heard this from Germany,UK,France,and the Netherlands among them. Another thing to add,John Howard is a white supremacist. He even showed sympathy for Pauline Hanson when she was sentenced.But most European-Australians are white supremacists anyway.Hell,most Europeans are Also,there's no such thing as Lebanese language
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 17, 2010 14:54:18 GMT -5
Most Europeans are not at this point the supremacists and when they are that then this will become publicly known as it was known in Nazi Germany for example. Another indication that they are not is the fact that, on one side, they have many non-European populations living in countries which were created by European descended people (Europe, US, Canada, Australia) and, on the other side, they even tolerate just about any cultural influence (even if it comes from areas which are rabidly anti-western in orientation).
From the looks of things they are not only not supremacists but due to media induced guilt perhaps even too liberal for their own sake and thus prone to swinging back towards the other extreme the moment the world encounters another radical economic depression which in a way caused Nazism in Germany.
Make no mistake, most Europeans (which to me are all European descended people) are probably inside indifferent (not antagonistic just indifferent) to non-related cultures and personally I see no reason to feel otherwise.
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Post by hellboy87 on Jan 17, 2010 15:20:21 GMT -5
you dont understand
you thought I meant those skinhead types.No! White supremacists.Supremacists.I meant that most Europeans everywhere think they are better than non-Europeans.This is of course due to the state of the world,AAANNND,also due to their beauty and desiresness being reflected to them from non-white world:skin whitenning,colouring hair brown and blond,blue contacts,mad about marrying Europeans etc.
AAdmin,I am a Malaysian.I know what I'm talking about.I see this reality nearly everyday.
As for countries like US,Canada and so on having non-Europeans,well,of course,today,they cant bar them fully can they? They've signed deals with coloured countries,shook hands,say racism is bad bla bla bla,develop an economic relationship,so of course they cant act on it.The US in particular brought in slaves to be slaves,second class citizens.Not really as humans.
Another important thing,just look at the Albanians and Greeks here.Both hate each other,Albanians try to "gun down" the Greeks down by pointing out their more common Middle Easternish features and contrasting it with the more common "Aryanish" features of them Albanians.
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Trazi Vise
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Post by Trazi Vise on Jan 18, 2010 13:06:01 GMT -5
hellboy you are abit behind man...john howard hasn't been the Prime Minister for 2 years lol.....
and bozur this is an old article....tsk tsk tsk :-)
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 18, 2010 13:55:40 GMT -5
I think this is about a general message here The basic idea is that the immigrants who move to a specific country are the ones who need to adapt to the cultural norms of such country and if they are antagonistic towards that country then they should not be welcomed to move there.
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Nikola
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Post by Nikola on Jan 19, 2010 2:53:51 GMT -5
I meant that most Europeans everywhere think they are better than non-Europeans.This is of course due to the state of the world,AAANNND,also due to their beauty and desiresness being reflected to them from non-white world:skin whitenning,colouring hair brown and blond,blue contacts,mad about marrying Europeans etc. I don't think you can just group all Europeans as one and say they feel superior to the rest of the world. In fact, you could quite easily break it up and say that most rich European countries think they are superior to the poorer European countries. Or even that most fair Europeans think they are superior to darker Europeans. AAdmin,I am a Malaysian.I know what I'm talking about.I see this reality nearly everyday. Then you would also know that Japanese think they are superior to the rest of the east asians, including yourself. And the Japs aren't "white".
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Post by Nikola on Jan 19, 2010 2:56:49 GMT -5
Anyway, I agree with the message in the original post. I live in Australia and I know how racist the Anglo-Australians are but in a way, I can see why they are like that. If a similar immigration trend emerged in some Balkan country, I know the people there would react the same way.
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Post by hellboy87 on Jan 19, 2010 4:39:33 GMT -5
hellboy you are abit behind man...john howard hasn't been the Prime Minister for 2 years lol..... and bozur this is an old article....tsk tsk tsk :-) I am very well aware of that.But fact is,you guys elected him for over a decade and it was not that long ago he was out.
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Post by hellboy87 on Jan 19, 2010 5:09:08 GMT -5
I don't think you can just group all Europeans as one and say they feel superior to the rest of the world. In fact, you could quite easily break it up and say that most rich European countries think they are superior to the poorer European countries. Or even that most fair Europeans think they are superior to darker Europeans. Then you would also know that Japanese think they are superior to the rest of the east asians, including yourself. And the Japs aren't "white". Yes I can Nikola,Europeans(white people),most of them think they are better than coloured people. Sure,among Europeans,the Scandinavians think they better than all,northern Europeans think they are better than southern and Eastern Europeans,northern italians think their better than southern Italians and likewise for the Spaniards.Blue eyed blonds think they're better than brunettes Again,lighter skinned people think they're better than darkies,thin ppl think they're better than fatties,the rich think they're better than the poor,the beautiful think they're better than the ugly,the professionals think they're better than those who arent and so on.......... Most of the modern world came from Europeans,it all harks back to the days of global European colonialism,so no suprise,they are the standard,the ideal.And that goes for beauty too Europeans,they critisize coloured people condescendingly,they come here to my country and act all big as though they own it,they dont act respectfully.Of course not all.I have seen these behaviour and I often think whether they are purposely doing it to say indirectly to the locals "f*ck you dumbasses! You are so stupid and inferior and I can come here and sh*t on you and you dont dare stand up to us because were mighty...." This is partly why I am very much against Europeans coming to my country.They love coming here for ego-tripping.I have noticed many white men in my country,when they walk,they swagger,have an arrogant expression on their face. In 1998,when my sister went to Canada,people ask her,do Malaysians live on trees? You see,to Europeans,their fellow Europeans are more or less alike,relatable,but coloured ones are primitive savages,with exceptions of course.
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Post by chalkedon on Jan 19, 2010 8:07:07 GMT -5
The title of this thread is debating the obvious. Unfortunatly in a world of political correctness, few countries actually implement it. So everyone bends over and changes their life for the immigrants in order to not be labled racist and seen progressive.
A muslim woman demanding she wear a full burqa covering her face during a drivers license picture won her case in court...Enough said...
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Post by L0gjICK on Jan 19, 2010 8:11:50 GMT -5
Well............do they?
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Post by chalkedon on Jan 19, 2010 8:29:09 GMT -5
^^^ I think in sumatra they do...lol !
durians anybody ?
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Post by hellboy87 on Jan 19, 2010 9:23:52 GMT -5
logic,they dont and never have in my country.
Durians chakeldon? Yes please! Havent had that in ages
and chakeldon,yes,when you migrate to a country,you must obey its laws and accept its ways.I mean,if you choose to migrate to a country,you must be attracted to it,like it for what it is.
But wearing the burqa thing for the licence picture,no I dont agree with that.But wearing burqa for other things,can.
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Post by chalkedon on Jan 19, 2010 9:42:20 GMT -5
Exactly Hellboy. You have to follow the rules in the host country. Not change the rules to suit you. I just dont understand why this does not happen. Im really starting to hate globalization....
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tyson
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Post by tyson on Jan 20, 2010 17:39:19 GMT -5
i basically agree with what the article is saying.
feel free to practice your culture or religion, but adapt to the ways of your host country. the burka on the drivers licence thing is just one example,.. there are many others.
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jan 20, 2010 19:21:51 GMT -5
Paltalk News - New Airport Scanners Raise Concerns
New scanners at airports which permit security officers to virtually strip search passengers are raising concerns among many in the flying public.
Budgettravel.com senior editor Sean O'Neill was my guest on News Talk Online on Paltalk.com to discuss the scanners. He says they were put into place as an alternative to patting down passengers in several airports because tests have shown that TSA personnel have missed contraband during those one-on-one searches.
Some people find both the pat-downs and the scanners intrusive, including a Muslim woman who called the show who believed both to be affront to the modesty dictated by her religion.
Just imagining some ultra religious fundamentalist flipping out when he finds out that the youngsters behind the screen are salivating while looking at his wife's naked body.
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Post by SKORIC on Jan 21, 2010 9:48:52 GMT -5
lol the area of Sydney that i live in:
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Post by hellboy87 on Jan 21, 2010 10:12:43 GMT -5
careful^^
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