Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 7, 2008 3:02:30 GMT -5
Eisai poly sostos file Sotirie.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 8, 2008 7:35:15 GMT -5
IMO politicians have lost their marbles. According to international law it’s forbidden to rip of away territory from a sovereign nation. I don't think Greece's help would do anything much ?.
In lament terms so a ten year old can understand. Is like Serbs got beaten up for defending their own homes from squatters.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 8, 2008 8:29:54 GMT -5
Very right, our frind Ajax too!
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Post by epiroti on Feb 8, 2008 9:03:03 GMT -5
It's good to see that the greek politicians are not as "sick" as some members of this forum.
Can't say thank you with all my heart because it's easy to see this was done mainly out of self-interest (EU pressure); but I do mean it when I say thank you for proving that you are not as anti-albanian as some other balkanians.
Teuta, 40000 greeks in albania are hardly the same case as 1.8million albanians in kosova! South albania will never be in danger from those greeks (especially considering that we always got along with them). If there's ever going to be a conflict (using that pretense), it will be an attack from outside. And that is completely different from the kosova issue.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Feb 8, 2008 9:09:22 GMT -5
Epiroti, nice to have a Greek amongst us! in case you are not greek, please change your nick. Thank you.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 8, 2008 9:14:08 GMT -5
It's good to see that the greek politicians are not as "sick" as some members of this forum.
Can't say thank you with all my heart because it's easy to see this was done mainly out of self-interest (EU pressure); but I do mean it when I say thank you for proving that you are not as anti-albanian as some other balkanians. Quit while your ahead...My words can cut like a knife. Because the truth hurts.
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Post by epiroti on Feb 8, 2008 12:31:28 GMT -5
but I am an epirot - born in Tepelen. Which is part of north epiri, which in turn has an overwhealming albanian majority. We never ethnically-cleansed nobody out the region to become a majority. And as far as I know, we never assimilated nobody neither...
And if someone proves to me that the south albanians are not epirots, I will gladly let go of the idea. I'm not boosting up my self-esteem by looking at what Pyrrhus and the ancient epirots did. That glory belongs to them, not to me, not to you.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 8, 2008 16:25:36 GMT -5
but I am an epirot - born in Tepelen. Which is part of north epiri, which in turn has an overwhealming albanian majority. We never ethnically-cleansed nobody out the region to become a majority. And as far as I know, we never assimilated nobody neither... And if someone proves to me that the south albanians are not epirots, I will gladly let go of the idea. I'm not boosting up my self-esteem by looking at what Pyrrhus and the ancient epirots did. That glory belongs to them, not to me, not to you. Is people like you who try and incite hatred btw two countries in the pretend with good will intentions, for simply being cut at our comments ? of freedom of expression OF A CONCERN ON THE REGION WHICH CAN AFFECT US ALL when at the same time no insult was involved from my part nor from another Greek YOU CALL OUR THOUGHTS OF A MATTER OF CONCERN "SICK". Talk about hyper sensitive. Oooh the hypocrisy and all this ego it’s to over crowded I can barely fit. Now. Photo: Greek and Albanian archaeologists are working together to uncover the secrets of ancient Antigoneia and its founder, Pyrrhus, king of the Molossians. Pyrrhus was a descendant of Achilles. He founded a city in 296 BC that was destroyed in the second century BC. The Romans meted out harsh treatment to the Epirote tribes who had been allies of Perseus.By Iota Sykka - Kathimerini Though Greece and Albania have much in common, Greece has not been officially involved in the burgeoning archaeological excavations and the activities of foreign archaeology schools in Albania in recent years. But the cooperation memorandum signed last year by the Greek Culture Ministry and the Archaeological Institute of the Tirana Academy of Sciences has paved the way. Joint research is being carried out at ancient Antigoneia under the supervision of the institute, headed by Muzafer Korkuti, and the 12th Ephorate, headed by Constantinos Zachos. While they explore the mysteries of the city and its founder, Pyrrhus, king of the Molossians, a group of Albanian students from the universities of Girokaster and Tirana are in training for the future. The Greeks and Albanians will be working on the project together for the next three years.Zachos talked about the Greek-Albanian project and the history of Antigoneia on Tuesday in a lecture at the Archaeological Society. Pyrrhus was a descendant of Achilles. The city he founded in 296 BC was destroyed in the second century BC. The Romans meted out harsh treatment to the Epirote tribes who had been allies of Perseus.
«Seventy walled settlements in Epirus were destroyed and 150,000 were taken into slavery,» Zachos said. Rome was taking revenge for Pyrrhus' campaign in Italy more than a century earlier. Some scholars believe that Illyria and Epirus were razed in order to ensure unhindered communication with eastern Greece. Albanian archaeologist Dhimosten Budina identified the city on a 35-hectare site at roughly 600 meters altitude, with walls 4 kilometers long. The identification was made on the basis of bronze ballots bearing the inscription «ANTIGONEON» on a Hellenistic-era house. Pyrrhus named the city after his first wife Antigone, the daughter of the Macedonian nobles Berenice and Philip. Budina has unearthed many finds, including the ancient agora, a 69-meter stoa, a treasury of bronze judicial ballots, vases, agricultural implements (including one used to castrate bulls), fragments of a bronze equestrian statue - the horse's tail and a life-size hand with a signet ring and a bronze muzzle. Most of the 700 coins that were found are from the Assembly of the Epirotes. A sixth-century Early Christian basilica as well as a tomb monument in one of the houses near the agora were also found. Zachos said the impressive tomb, which contained fragments of jars, a glass vase, loom weights, a lamp, potsherds and Roman storage jars, was «along the lines of Macedonian tombs» and dates from the Hellenistic era.The monument will be restored. As for the house, the bronze Macedonian coin (232-168-7 BC) found in it may be associated with the abandonment of the house in 167 BC. Research will continue in the agora, where there is a continuous sequence of material from the third century BC at the lower level to the second century BC at the higher level. www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/news/content.asp?aid=68701================================== They are working together and know the truth.
Is why I know you folks on message boards do not represent the main stream Albanians who are decent folks. Then try and play the victimMany more I could underline, many more. So enough of this propaganda.
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Post by epiroti on Feb 8, 2008 16:42:19 GMT -5
Good attempt to sound poetic and deep in that first paragraph.
But the article you published didn't serve to disprove anything I said.
Sharpen your knife Ajax. You don't seem to cut the truth yet.
And even if you bring me all the relevant articles and valid information on the issue, I won't have the time to read and weight everything the way the issue deserves because I am very busy with my studies. I hope you take my word for this.
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Post by Arxileas on Feb 8, 2008 16:49:32 GMT -5
I don't know if you can handle the truth. As for being poetic ? Do you think so ? + For that nice comment. Well is a start.
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Post by SuperAlbanian on Feb 9, 2008 19:17:38 GMT -5
I think we have to agree with Greece in the situation of Macedonia. Macedonia is proven to be Greek and not a slav origin. Macedonians today are Bulgarians and most of the land belong to Greece and Albania. I say Greece and Albania invade Macedonia and get their lands back. For once.... we should help eachoher and fight for our rights.
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Post by rex362 on Feb 10, 2008 20:13:34 GMT -5
"Cyprus is NOT going to recognize kososvo under no circumstance for obvious reasons..."
Yes......I forgot ....Cyprus banks are loaded to the till with dirty serbian money ....it all makes sense now
shame on cyprus .....
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Post by kartadolofonos on Feb 11, 2008 18:48:03 GMT -5
superalbanian
your idea is not bad i hope we can realize it in the future
when fyrom will not give's up his claims and the Greek term
"M a c e d o n i a"
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Post by SuperAlbanian on Feb 15, 2008 8:44:04 GMT -5
superalbanian your idea is not bad i hope we can realize it in the future when fyrom will not give's up his claims and the Greek term "M a c e d o n i a" Yes, and we Albanians would feel very angry if for example a group of Serbs started rebelling against Serbia and declaring themselves as " Dardania " or any other former Illyrian autonomous reagon. OK, we may not be best of friends with Greeks but seriously..... What FYROM is trying to do is totally unfair and illegal.
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