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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 1, 2010 17:52:36 GMT -5
I would. I will feel very home there since its my direct paternal's line origin...thats sth special. But as I know you have to be a turkish citizen in order to inherit or maintain properties in Turkey.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 1, 2010 17:54:50 GMT -5
Just read about some mysterious legend to do with that place, about an old tree. Although Konya isn't really Marmara it's more landlocked. thats another village. They have the same name. The one in Konya is Kurdish if Im not wrong...my Gölyazi is in the district of Bursa.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 1, 2010 17:55:03 GMT -5
Actually I don't think tat is accurate, since Cesme has much property owned by British, and Antalya by german landowners. Literally Land OWNED, not as in the UK where it is leased.
If that is where your roots are from perhaps you should get yourself a piece of property there, although I have to say it isn't a very pleasant place to be, i have been stopped from visiting by my family due to the mindset of many people that live there.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 1, 2010 17:57:13 GMT -5
Sorry you are right. I read the right place, i don't know why it said Konya since the tree legend is about the one between Bursa and Izmir. That is an absolutely beautiful place, and I'm sure the locals much more friendly than konya www.kured.org/golyazi/index.htm200 year old Rum homes are still standing there.
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 1, 2010 18:03:05 GMT -5
;D
the people there are very nice and open minded. Sad thing is they do hardly know about the Greek past of their village...I mean the young people. I know one Turk from there for example who has origins from Thessaloniki...and his family left just like mine with the population exchange...
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Post by Kastorianos on Feb 1, 2010 18:07:41 GMT -5
I know on which "quarter" of the village my great grandfathers house was...but unfortunately not the exact house. Many houses look neglected...they cant be too expensive...
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 1, 2010 18:19:55 GMT -5
Turkish properties are at there cheapest at the moment. If u have the money now is the perfect time to buy.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Feb 2, 2010 0:01:47 GMT -5
what do names ending in gan mean eg Atilagan erdogan
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Post by EriTopSheqeri on Feb 2, 2010 0:41:19 GMT -5
Erdogan is a mix of two words, er and dogan. And did you mean Atılgan perhaps?
Do Oktay and Erol mean anything? I had proffessors named such.
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Post by chalkedon on Feb 2, 2010 2:56:26 GMT -5
Ive always liked the name " Ipek "
btw: pure turkish names end in " alp "
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 2, 2010 9:15:47 GMT -5
Pure turkish names, - not influenced by arabic persian or other languages Oguz Kaan. Dogukan Efekaan Turker Cengiz Attila there are many more, these are just to give you the gist...
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 2, 2010 9:29:15 GMT -5
These are all very old pure Turkish names, mine for example is a new name but again no influence of arabic or persian. As far as I am concerned when I have kids, they will have names according to where we will be living, If it is going to be in Europe/America Deniz is a good choice, if in Turkey then they willhave duel names definatly named after my Dad and Mum, and a second more modern maybe even made up name.
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Post by hellboy87 on Feb 2, 2010 10:00:39 GMT -5
I wonder what are the Turkish names used by ordinary citizens of the Ottoman Empire.
I know there was a lot of Muslim names,but there Turkish ones also.
Its intresting that the Ottoman family,the non-Turkish wives adopted Turkish names when they married the family.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 2, 2010 11:16:02 GMT -5
They used names from the Kuran mostly if they were muslim. I don't think Turkish names were used as much, more persian, arabic style names were in use, as it was a Osmanli Muslim empire, although they were Turks they were 1st and foremost Muslims. They represented Islam before any race.
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Post by thracian08 on Feb 2, 2010 13:00:20 GMT -5
yes foreigners are buying homes in Turkey all the time...Greeks too I read in the Hurriyet newspaper.
Do Oktay and Erol mean anything?
I'm not sure of their meanings.
By name is Ipek which imeans silk - it is also a pure Turkish name...
Nope, pure Turkish words have vowel harmony.
examples: Erdem, Eda, Seda, etc..
Sentences are generally: Subject object(s) verb, so something like:
Turkish: Köpek suyu içiyor. English: (The) dog (the) water is drinking. Turkish: Güç bunda kuvvetli. English: (The) Force in this one strong (is).
The word immediately before the verb is (usually) the most important word in the sentence and conveys the main point. The subject is often left out if it is a personal pronoun, since it can be derived from the verb conjugation.
Turkish is a language of the Ural-Altaic family. It's quite logical, with few exceptional rules and no genders, but its agglutinative structure is so different from Indo-European languages that speakers of those languages may find its grammar a challenge to learn at first.
(Agglutinative means that words and sentences are made by adding suffixes to a root-word.)
Suffixes
A Turkish word starts with a short root (such as git-, 'go'). One or more suffixes are added to modify the root (gitti, 's/he went'). English uses only a few suffixes, such as -'s for possessive, -s or -es for plural, but Turkish has dozens of suffixes.You can make whole sentences in Turkish out of one little word root and a lot of suffixes.
Vowel Harmony
Suffixes are formed according to Turkish vowel harmony, rules whereby most vowel sounds in a word are made either in the front of the mouth or the back, but not both.
The eight vowels of Turkish
The first rule of Vowel Harmony concerns the vowels - A - and - E
Second Rule concerns the Vowels - I, Ý and U, Ü
The Four Forms of the Suffix -I-These are the Complete Rules of Vowel Harmony
Vowel Harmony Rules according to Turkish Grammar
1 - Büyük Ünlü Uyumu - (Major Vowel Harmony)
2 - Küçük Ünlü Uyumu - (Minor Vowel Harmony)Examples of Vowel Harmony
There are eight vowels in Turkish which are divided into two groups as follows:
The A-Undotted Vowels - A I O U The E-Dotted Vowels - E Ý Ö Ü
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Post by todhrimencuri on Feb 2, 2010 13:09:47 GMT -5
Yea, some of my Turkish friends have a lot of trouble with using articles. They dont know where they belong. They also mess up gender alot since Turkish doesnt have them.
I wonder what the rule is on trying to connect with old family land. I dont have any, but my uncle, who is Muslim, had land in Istanbul until the 30s in some wealthy area since his grandfather had been a merchant. The family has no interest in ever trying to reclaim it, but I wonder if there is any procedure for procuring it. Especially considering that they are Muslim, with the sole exception of a daughter who married Orthodox and became so.
Erhan and Orhan are both two names very common among Albanians. Are they Turkish or Muslim. Artan, Dogan, Demir are also common. Fejza is a common name for girls.
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Post by thracian08 on Feb 2, 2010 13:23:01 GMT -5
If you have proof of ownership of the land you can send it to court and I bet you can obtain it. The court system takes awhile from what I understand as compared to the USA for example.
Erhan and Orhan are both two names very common among Albanians. Are they Turkish or Muslim. Artan, Dogan, Demir.
Erhan means khan
Orhan means great ruler
Artan don't know
Dogan being born
Demir means strong
I think all these names are Turkish as they meet the Turkish vowel harmony rule.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 2, 2010 13:33:42 GMT -5
Yea, some of my Turkish friends have a lot of trouble with using articles. They dont know where they belong. They also mess up gender alot since Turkish doesnt have them. I wonder what the rule is on trying to connect with old family land. I dont have any, but my uncle, who is Muslim, had land in Istanbul until the 30s in some wealthy area since his grandfather had been a merchant. The family has no interest in ever trying to reclaim it, but I wonder if there is any procedure for procuring it. Especially considering that they are Muslim, with the sole exception of a daughter who married Orthodox and became so. Erhan and Orhan are both two names very common among Albanians. Are they Turkish or Muslim. Artan, Dogan, Demir are also common. Fejza is a common name for girls. Han - usually means from the family of... Yucehan - huns of the great - if ts ur name ... comes from huns of the great.... Erhan means a fair brave ruler. Orhan - means ruler/director of the city Both Turkish names. Artan means, useful. Dogan is a type of wildbird similar to an eagle Demir means metal
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Post by hellboy87 on Feb 2, 2010 13:38:39 GMT -5
Yea I do remember reading about Bosniaks and Albanians also having Turkish names as well.Only came across a few though.Mostly Muslim ones,then.Now,I see mostly Albanian derived names,and a few Muslim ones.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Feb 2, 2010 13:40:01 GMT -5
Feyza means Abundance, prosperity
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