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Apr 2, 2010 14:58:21 GMT -5
Post by Sh1 Shonić on Apr 2, 2010 14:58:21 GMT -5
1. Greece isn’t your neighbor. Greece is more than a neighbor ! 2. No problems with Vlachs? That’s not what I’ve heard from some of the Serbs I know. Sure, relations are not as intense as with Croats and Albanians for example, but I wouldn’t say they are rosy. Let’s just say that there’s a sort of indifference, much like Bulgaria’s relations with Vlachs. Simply, you heard it wrong.
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Apr 2, 2010 15:06:48 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Apr 2, 2010 15:06:48 GMT -5
O. K.
I know a decent amount of Serbs, never heard them say anything good about Vlachs, that's not to say that they proffess their dislike for them as I've heard them talk about Croats and Albanians. But regarding Vlachs, at best, there really is nothing more but indifference.
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Post by rusebg on Apr 3, 2010 1:57:55 GMT -5
If you try for a change to visit some other forums, like the macedonian one, you'll see what I mean. May be you won't have this feeling of being such a superstar as you are here, but it won't hurt.
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Post by shqiptars on Apr 3, 2010 3:03:02 GMT -5
1. Greece isn’t your neighbor. We're in the same neighbourhood. 2. No problems with Vlachs? That’s not what I’ve heard from some of the Serbs I know. Sure, relations are not as intense as with Croats and Albanians for example, but I wouldn’t say they are rosy. Let’s just say that there’s a sort of indifference, much like Bulgaria’s relations with Vlachs. Not quite. Out of all the degenerate tribes that gave themselves to the Nazis, Bulgars included, only the Vlachs didn't invade and pillage Serb lands. That's more than indifference. Apart from that, Serbs live in Vlach dominated lands in peace and Vlachs live in Serb dominated lands in peace. You see Vlachs aren't psychotic warmongers so they get along with Serbs. There's a lot that Vlachs, and other tribes, can teach your "people." 3. Macedonian Slavs.. well no s**t, politically Serbia recognizes Macedonia and everything Macedonian, which is just a follow up of its earlier politics. I thought this was about Serbs, not Serbia. Serbia is irrelevant as it wasn't defined by Serbs and was enforced unto us by socialists. But yes, Serbs generally recognise Macedonians as they wish to be recognised, more or less. I don't fully understand the issue that Macedonians have with Greeks and Bulgars. Frankly, I don't care either. But I'm more than willing to take the side of Greeks and Macedonians over Bulgars in the matter, if only because Bulgars are known to fabricate history to suit their needs. If you try for a change to visit some other forums, like the macedonian one, you'll see what I mean. May be you won't have this feeling of being such a superstar as you are here, but it won't hurt. If it's so common then you wouldn't have a problem find a quote. So shut up.
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bob1389
Apr 3, 2010 12:29:15 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Apr 3, 2010 12:29:15 GMT -5
You’ve phrased your statements as if you think that Bulgars and Greeks are somehow competing over Macedonia, which is not the case, not even close. But then again, there’s no point in discussing this with you as most of the Serbs on this forum are absolutely delusional when it comes to overall history of the Balkan Peninsula.
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bob1389
Apr 3, 2010 20:20:05 GMT -5
Post by shqiptars on Apr 3, 2010 20:20:05 GMT -5
You’ve phrased your statements as if you think that Bulgars and Greeks are somehow competing over Macedonia, which is not the case, not even close. But then again, there’s no point in discussing this with you as most of the Serbs on this forum are absolutely delusional when it comes to overall history of the Balkan Peninsula. Look who's the "ultranationalist with racist tendencies" now. I find it strange how you degenerates pick on Novi or Pyrros when you're no better, or much worse. Then again, I'm not a hypocritical degenerate so of course I'd find it strange. I'm guessing this thing happens all the time in Bulgar "intellectual" circles.
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Post by ivo on Apr 4, 2010 9:54:10 GMT -5
Easy there mr. philosopher man, read up a little.
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bob1389
Apr 4, 2010 10:17:08 GMT -5
Post by shqiptars on Apr 4, 2010 10:17:08 GMT -5
Easy there mr. philosopher man, read up a little. You're such a hypocrite. Is this a common Bulgar trait?
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bob1389
Apr 4, 2010 10:34:12 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Apr 4, 2010 10:34:12 GMT -5
Has the wheather in Australlia messed up your ability to think or what? Seems this may be the case with Pazar.
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bob1389
Apr 4, 2010 20:46:19 GMT -5
Post by shqiptars on Apr 4, 2010 20:46:19 GMT -5
Has the wheather in Australlia messed up your ability to think or what? Seems this may be the case with Pazar. You're the one who makes accusations (which you yourself are guilty of) then offer no evidence to back up your claim.
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Apr 4, 2010 22:26:33 GMT -5
Post by srbobran on Apr 4, 2010 22:26:33 GMT -5
Well I for one like Vlachs. They are a great peole with a rich history. With all the mixing thats gone on between us in the past 5 or 6 centuries, they are essentially our ethnic kin (especially to Krajina, Bosnia, and some central Serbs). We have long historical ties and have been living not only peace together for centuries but have fought beside one another on numerous occaisions (military frontier etc.)
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Post by ivo on Apr 5, 2010 0:55:13 GMT -5
Would you care to show me where I've generalized your entire people on a racial basis?
Your statment proves that you don't read the discussions, and you are only basing your conclusion on emotion.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 5, 2010 6:23:29 GMT -5
"Has the wheather in Australlia messed up your ability to think or what? Seems this may be the case with Pazar."
Asen, Asen, Asen, a man who relies on propaganda, lies, distortions and over exaggerations, needs to look very closely at himself before making comments about others.
Would you like to share with us here of the fake stone inscription that the Bulgars fabricated in the 19th century which talks about Vardar and the Bulgars. Didn't you and Ruse say that you both have evidence that proves Turkic Bulgars are the original Indo-Europeans?
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Post by shqiptars on Apr 5, 2010 9:16:40 GMT -5
Well I for one like Vlachs. They are a great peole with a rich history. With all the mixing thats gone on between us in the past 5 or 6 centuries, they are essentially our ethnic kin (especially to Krajina, Bosnia, and some central Serbs). We have long historical ties and have been living not only peace together for centuries but have fought beside one another on numerous occaisions (military frontier etc.) Vlachs are fiercely independent people as are Serbs. I see no such case where they would mate en masse outside the imaginations of regional interlopers. Would you care to show me where I've generalized your entire people on a racial basis? Your statment proves that you don't read the discussions, and you are only basing your conclusion on emotion. You use "Serbia" to refer to all Serbs. You collectively blame Serbs for the actions of individuals. But are you really saying you're not an ultranationalist with racist tendencies because you're constantly referring to your nonexistent Serb friends? Seriously though, point out Novi's ultranationalism with racist tendencies or get lost.
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bob1389
Apr 5, 2010 10:37:37 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Apr 5, 2010 10:37:37 GMT -5
Show me where I've done so. And to clarify it for you, if I do use the term Serbia, I use it to refer to the government and it's initiatives in general. If wanted to refer to Serbs, I’d use the term Serbs.
Show me.
I have 2 who are relatively close friends, and several acquaintances. I don’t really see how this is relevant to the topic, though I get along with them just fine. I think it has to do with the fact that they don’t share the views that Pazar and Gyrro keep posting.
Read some our past discussions.
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bob1389
Apr 5, 2010 20:41:21 GMT -5
Post by shqiptars on Apr 5, 2010 20:41:21 GMT -5
Get lost, Bulgar.
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bob1389
Apr 5, 2010 21:24:51 GMT -5
Post by ivo on Apr 5, 2010 21:24:51 GMT -5
Awww soo cute, you are a sensitive lad ain't ya.
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Post by shqiptars on Apr 6, 2010 6:40:00 GMT -5
Get lost, Bulgar.
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Post by ivo on Apr 6, 2010 9:17:22 GMT -5
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bob1389
Apr 6, 2010 20:12:06 GMT -5
Post by Pavel Chernev on Apr 6, 2010 20:12:06 GMT -5
Greetings friends, I think we are forgetting the most important issue here - bob is gone. Pozdrav, Pavel.
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