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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 22, 2010 17:36:19 GMT -5
Tetova is Albanian. Get used to it. One day it will be made official. Unfortunately 30% of the city is still infested and needs to be cleansed. However, Kosova was cleansed; so will Tetova. Right now just beware and look after Skpoje, the Albanian mahala just keeps on growing. Maybe one day a referendum will make it official and it will be Shkup once and for all. Tetova is gone though, without Albanian your business will go nowhere and all the Slavs are selling their land and moving eastward. The Muslim Slavs and Turks are getting accustomed to being in an Albanian land though, they are assimilating nicely and adding to our numbers. I have seen Muslim Slavs deny that they are even Slavic, even with the zero Alb they speak they say that they are Alb. Go to any Torbeshi forum and 3/4 of the members have name endings with -i instead of -ski.
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Post by logjiktek on Apr 22, 2010 17:54:42 GMT -5
Okay, so you're from Kicevo. Funny you mentioned, I met a couple Albo's here a few wks back from Kicevo; one spoke Mak the other claimed he didn't speak. No hard feelings, as I'm glad my family doesn't know Albanian, although it would have been very advantageous. I've been to Tetovo many many times in my life, and its quite disgusting to say the least. I definitely wish my family village home was on the other side of Macedonia, so i could go and enjoy the scenery w/out seeing all the mosques. As far as being treated like that, I myself have been ripped off by people at the airport, police officers, etc while on vacation there. Well, just remember should you and the Kosovars and Albanians from Albania ever have a full fledged war on the minority in NW Macedonia - remember this, think about what will happen to your brothers in Bitola/Struge; but more importantly do not think for a minute Bulgaria nor Serbia would not come. I may be in a fight with my brother, but should you go touch him I would find you and take you out! That same analogy is applied to us Orthodox brothers. Take care and wish you all the best in the next round, whenever it resumes..... Funny, I actually agree with you about the Mosques. It's getting ridiculous, especially in places like Tetova and Gostivar. But when you have Slavs building Churches and putting up crosses everywhere, the Albanians counteract with same BS. Many of the Mosques nowadays are probably Saudi funded, but I bet those Churches are built using tax dollars by Albanians. Monastir is done already, the Slavs have done their damage and the place is Slav infested since most of the Albanians have left. Which is why the Slavs attack places like Prilep and Monastir, due to the small Albanian minority. In Kercova most of the Slavs were supplied guns by the Makos during 2001. AK 47's handed out as if they were free. None of them used it though, they weren't that stupid to try it in an Albanian majority area.
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Post by ljubotan on Apr 22, 2010 19:24:07 GMT -5
Agreed, Tetovo is majority Albanian and ran soley by you guys. You guys have done a wonderful job in replenishing your blood; very envious of that. Unfortunately my Slavic brothers on avg are not involved in dirty business, hence have no financial means to support big families.
Again your culture will also so that process down as the younger generation will want to marry at a later age and enjoy traveling and studying abroad. They also won't want 4-8 kids either. Those days of exporting 2 brothers abroad (one to Germany the other to NY) and keeping the other 2 home for farm work etc are done. As the Albanian population becomes more educated via a more direct link with the EU, the popluace will become more civilized and less violent. Sure they'll always care for the 'Albanian calling', but realistically an Albanian CEO of some company will be less likely to run to Macedonia to kill people.
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Post by insomniac on Apr 22, 2010 19:29:07 GMT -5
Having kids is bad now but dying like rats is considered good. Slavs don't need Albanians to kill each other or to be primitive. Once in a while some cleansing happens and the history restructures itself. Just look at what they did in Bosnia. Really shameful primitive stuff... it's beyond me how one can boast of civilization. Take a look at the condition of eastern europe,,,
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Post by ljubotan on Apr 22, 2010 21:18:38 GMT -5
Bosnia is a good example, but let's not forget the Serbs were the first against war and the first to sign peace treaties. Alija was the first to start war and first to renig on peace treaties (supported non other than the good ole' US of A).
Blame the west for the war and the 90,000 lives lost that could have been spared had the US forced Alija to stay to the agreement signed. Which I might add did not have a Republika Srpska attached to it.
Any war is primitive, however, once it starts right/wrong both sides have to defend from the flying bullet and mortars above.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 22, 2010 21:19:26 GMT -5
"They repeat these lies hoping that enough repetition will make them true in peoples' eyes. As you guys have shown, and as I've shown too in earlier debates, there is no evidence to support the alleged systematic rapes of Serbian girls and women during the '80s. Infact, the only nation to have organized such terror in the Balkans in modern history, are the Serbs, who with their rape camps actively violated tens of thousands Albanians and Bosnians in a strategy of demoralization.
Same goes with poisoning. Poisoning did occur in Kosova, but it was the Serbs who poisoned Albanian children, using segregation of children in schools to avoid Serb victims;"
Pyrro and other mentally stable people of the forums, this is exactly the type of rubbish you get from Bulgari here of the forums. That is why Pyrro, l've said to you in the past the Bulgari and Albanians are similar, mentally. They commit the crimes and then blame Serbs for it.
Pyrro the similarity:
Serbs revive the Bulgars during the Ottoman period (Build Bulgarski schools, print books etc....), later in return we almost lose half of serbia to the Bulgars.
Tito after WW2 opens the borders between Albania and serbia (kosovo), Albanians pour into the region, many serbian families hosted them and supported them because in Albania these people would work for a whole month just to buy one pair of shoes. Later, in good spirit the Yugoslavs open up in kosovo Albanian universties and other things, now what do we get, the stealing of kosovo.
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Post by Novi Pazar on Apr 22, 2010 21:27:22 GMT -5
"For your info, Pyrro, we suffered through three national catastrophies in the 20th century, all of them much worse than what Serbia got through. We survived somehow."
What catastrophies?, still bitter that Hitler wasn't able to hand over to the Bulgars a large chuck of serbia, Greece or Vardar?.
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Post by insomniac on Apr 22, 2010 21:28:50 GMT -5
lmao oh you generous human beings. you open up universities but what do you get. a knife in the back. oh you humanitarians. what would we do without your good will. we would not have a pair of shoes to call our own. lol man stfu and stop talking you tool Bosnia is a good example, but let's not forget the Serbs were the first against war and the first to sign peace treaties. Alija was the first to start war and first to renig on peace treaties (supported non other than the good ole' US of A). Blame the west for the war a nd the 90,000 lives lost So slavs specifically fyromians, bosnians and serbs have nothing to do with that?
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Post by todhrimencuri on Apr 22, 2010 23:48:26 GMT -5
The Albanians in this forum are about as educated as they can get. Logjitek is one of the most educated people in the forum alltogether, as is Dijedon, Insomniac, etc. etc. All the education in the world cant change emotion. Im a leftist humanitarian at heart, but when I think of Slavs or Greeks, I see nothing but hatred even with everything that i have learned it is impossible to get over emotions. Sorry, even the Albs in Harvard or UMass in the US still hold wildly nationalistic ideas and feelings and are at heart as slavophobic as they come. I actually personally know Albs from NYU who feel and talk just the same, men who otherwise are as intelligent as one could get... still the feelings are the same. Its not about violence, I too am against violence, unless it can be violence without the negative repercussions done in times of strife. At the moment I too promote peace, but a controlled one, without acceptance of coexistance and intermixture. And like I said, it will take very man generations to change our mindset towards you kind.
Sorry, but it will take a long long time to change our minds and eyes. Our population growth will also slow, and it is now... but yours is already in reverse.
Novi is clearly one of the least intelligent people in this forum... why do you persist on reading his nonsense?
Btw, I wonder what the character of this unity that Aadmin imagines is. Im guessing it involves lifting the statehood of Kosova and reuniting with Serbia, in a symbol of "unity". Im guessing it also entails Albania no longer being a fifth column of American interests for the sake of its own interests and instead "uniting". Im guessing Albanians, because lets really accept it, we Albs are the chief ones who have problems with unity with Serbs, we and Bosnians, because we have all been treated so well... Im guessing the accepted statement will be "we all suffered, together, and we have allowed ourselves to be divided"... as if the suffering was equal.
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Post by alb12345 on Apr 22, 2010 23:48:43 GMT -5
;D ;D ;D
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Post by chalkedon on Apr 23, 2010 2:38:45 GMT -5
funny how this thread turned out...lol. Barely made it the second page... Got to love the balkans fyi - Melty and other albos that talk tough. You havnt done nothing to fyrom yet and from what i read in skopiantruth.com it says that the ohrid agreement is on the brink and you guys are in a panic. Something to do with the fact you do not make up 25% of the population in fyrom. You ppl bark too much and no action....
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Post by Nikola on Apr 23, 2010 2:49:26 GMT -5
The previous census population figures for FY Macedonia were way off. Apparently, 1.8 million people participated even though the country has 2 million people. The Albanians fudged the figures.
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Post by chalkedon on Apr 23, 2010 3:08:12 GMT -5
^ That wouldnt surprise me Nikola...
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Apr 23, 2010 7:58:17 GMT -5
I dislike ignorant imbeciles who overgeneralise. Overall people in the Balkans are cool, there are a lot of hatemongers out there that thrive on negative energy and get thrills out of seeing people divided and conquered. I get on really well with the Serbian people I have met, these people are truelly fun and great drinking partners lol ! I like also the Bulgarians that i know, they have a sarcastic sense of humour and are warmer than I expected. I don't have any negative feelings towards Greeks, Albanians, Croats, Bosnians, Romanians etc... I think we should take it down to the very basics, people should learn to not stereo type a whole nation of people, also history doesn't decide the future, YOU do. Therefore if u want your kids and grandkids living in a more peaceful easy world, stop the hating. start loving...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 23, 2010 8:40:00 GMT -5
Desire for Balkan President!!!
However Desire, people believe what the media say. If our media are English (American), and your media are German (American), then it is natural that those centers will very easily coordinate hatred and play us like pieces of chess-games.
You have greeks who make voodoo against SlavMakedonians/slavs/turks but have never been to Turkey/Skoplje/etc....
We are played Desire.... and its hard to find the correct equilibrium of powers..
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Post by ljubotan on Apr 23, 2010 8:42:16 GMT -5
Admin made one mistake and that's associating 'unity' with Albanians. Like you, I would never share a dinner table with you or your kind; however, I would leave you alone and respect your living space.
Unity has to come between us Serbs first and foremost, and then everyone else based on mutual respect. Serbia, Montenegro and R. Srpska need to become one!
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Apr 23, 2010 8:56:01 GMT -5
Unity has to come between us Serbs first and foremost, and then everyone else based on mutual respect. Serbia, Montenegro and R. Srpska need to become one! Lets pray for that my Brother. I would suggest a federation with CG/SRB/RS/MK, cool!!!
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Apr 23, 2010 9:02:38 GMT -5
The majority is not an overgeneralisation? oh sorry... It is an undergeneralisation.. (whatever) So you mean the greater number of Turks. Right,my mistake, that isn't a generalisation. U make an uninformed comment, by saying u visited all the country, but you are sure I haven't. It must be your character to make comments about things you lack knowledge in (ignorance). I bear no grudge for this.. u can't help it. So you visited twice and have seen some diaspora, therefore you can give your expert opinion that Turks are trash people and fanatic? LOL
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Apr 23, 2010 9:05:13 GMT -5
Desire for Balkan President!!! However Desire, people believe what the media say. If our media are English (American), and your media are German (American), then it is natural that those centers will very easily coordinate hatred and play us like pieces of chess-games. You have greeks who make voodoo against SlavMakedonians/slavs/turks but have never been to Turkey/Skoplje/etc.... We are played Desire.... and its hard to find the correct equilibrium of powers.. Exactly Pyrros the media is manipulating the people, I mean imagine if the Balkans united. Who are they gonna sell their weapons to? Who cares also about who came first and how?... Everybody is in the Balkans now, so get on with it... so much wasting time, arguing about irrelevant sh.it.
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Post by Dèsîŗĕ Yèarning on Apr 23, 2010 9:34:39 GMT -5
Oh wow u have been living with the diaspora, then you sure are an expert aren't u? LOL First of all I ask just to clarify what were you expecting the villagers to wear? Armani? Prada? Adidas? I mean what were your high expectations? So you went around visiting villages, therefore you can call the people fanatics because they wore their traditional clothes? and the villagers in the east are ultra religious so therefore trash. Nice observation Secondly, your observation about men looking at European women perhaps may be true in mainly ghetto areas, yet if u come to Tunali, Bahceli, Atakule, and Arjantin etc in Ankara nobody even looks at any foreigners, the same applies for Istanbul Moda, Kadikoy, Atasehir, Bebek, Nisantasi and many more areas. To conclude your comments are very much subjective, I think you are ignorant and disrespectful towards other cultures and religions. Comparing Turkish villagers to your grandmother?... what kind of view is that? LOL
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