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Post by terroreign on May 24, 2010 22:59:30 GMT -5
I think history has proven that culturally none of the Balkans is european.
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Post by king on May 24, 2010 23:03:23 GMT -5
I get what you mean King, you are talking about Empires. I'm just talking about origin of religions which is all from the same area. There is Christianity Islam and Judaism all over the world, from South America, to Africa to Asia. Anyways, b/c Albanians are no different than other Mediterrean people, and languagewise are classifed in indo-European, would be European. And isn't their origin from Caucausia? christianity in the new world was spread by european invaders...(portuguese, spanish, british etc.) islam was spread by arabs and turks... christianity was the religion to defend europe... islam the religion to attack europe, both have origins in the middle east but the roman-catholic and eastern orthodox church are also inspired by the church fathers alot who were greeks or romans... and christianity is also inspired by greek thought...
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Post by king on May 24, 2010 23:05:59 GMT -5
I get what you mean King, you are talking about Empires. I'm just talking about origin of religions which is all from the same area. There is Christianity Islam and Judaism all over the world, from South America, to Africa to Asia. Anyways, b/c Albanians are no different than other Mediterrean people, and languagewise are classifed in indo-European, would be European. And isn't their origin from Caucausia? and for me albanians are europeans.. it doesnt matter what language they speak because language isnt the same as race.... african-americans also speak english but it doesnt make them european.... hungarians speak a asiatic language but they are europeans and indo-european languages exist also outside europe (iran, northindia), for me albanians are europeans, genetically they are europeans...
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Post by shqiptars on May 24, 2010 23:22:06 GMT -5
I congratulate Pavel Chernev and his ability to troll every Shqiptar that comes to this forum. Well done, gentleman.
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Post by insomniac on May 25, 2010 1:11:26 GMT -5
pirates who will destroy anything that crosses our path, especially the slaves to our North and the homos to the South.
Aaaarrrrgggghhhhh!!!! ;D
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 25, 2010 3:29:58 GMT -5
"So far 10 people here have voted albanians are not europians i know who voted against: 1 parazite 2 king 3 patrinos 4 novi pazer 5 pavel chetnicku 6 kanaris i cant find the other four now but i will latter"
Actually Alb12345, l didn't even vote yet!. My opinions are this: i'm inclined towards christian Albanians as being European, while Muslim Albanians not European. Genetically, Albanians have influence from Asia Minor and the Middle East, and yes, they also have influence from Europe (Slavs and Germanics). Racially, the majority of Albanians look like neighbouring Balkan nations like Serbia, Greece, Montenegrins etc...but, however some have an Albanoid or Anatolian look (probably of original Albanian influence that arrived to the Balkans from Asia Minor one thousand years ago and settled in central modern Albania).
So overall, the Albanians are in the middle of Europeans and West Asians, hence why l didn't vote.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on May 25, 2010 4:30:29 GMT -5
Novi Pazar you mean about Serbian people, about your funny claim?, hoverer everyone know that you are hypocrite and no one take you seriously, so continue to fantasy and read your master hajduke.
The fact is Albanians are most european people compare to all Balkan nations.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on May 25, 2010 4:33:08 GMT -5
I congratulate Pavel Chernev and his ability to troll every Shqiptar that comes to this forum. Well done, gentleman. Dont congratulate yourself troll
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Post by shqiptars on May 25, 2010 4:35:33 GMT -5
I think Shqiptars were brought to the Balkans by the Turks in the 1600s. Mainly because there's absolutely no record of them being there before that time. Even their so-called heroes who supposedly resisted the initial Turk invasion had Greek or Slavonic names. Apart from that, there's evidence of Shqiptar communities in Sicily and southern Italy that were there because Turks brought them over as mercenaries. More likely than not is that HD was right in that Shqiptars came directly from Caucasia or thereabouts.
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Post by shqiptars on May 25, 2010 4:37:12 GMT -5
Dont congratulate yourself troll A Shqiptar on this forum is calling me a troll? Really? Do you "people" understand what hypocrisy is?
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Post by PrijesDardanian on May 25, 2010 4:38:56 GMT -5
there is not such thing as "modern"-"medieval"-"ancient" Greeks to be judged apart. Lol, first of all 60% of modern Greeks are from Asia Minor and further (which arrived after XIX and XX century)....and greek nation/people didn't exited until XVIII century.
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Post by PrijesDardanian on May 25, 2010 4:44:06 GMT -5
Dont congratulate yourself troll A Shqiptar on this forum is calling me a troll? Really? Do you "people" understand what hypocrisy is? Srpski continues again to troll about his schizophrenia + mania, just watch hybrid sramota.
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Post by Patrinos on May 25, 2010 4:59:10 GMT -5
there is not such thing as "modern"-"medieval"-"ancient" Greeks to be judged apart. Lol, first of all 60% of modern Greeks are from Asia Minor and further (which arrived after XIX and XX century)....and greek nation/people didn't exited until XVIII century. "XVIII"... i believe you are reffering about B.C.... How can someone from the nation with the tiniest written tradition in the whole Europe talks? If it wasn't we,Greeks, you would have appeared in records 17-20 generation before...when your Osman baba recorded you...
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Post by PrijesDardanian on May 25, 2010 5:14:03 GMT -5
in Byzantine times didn't exited such Greek people but Albanians Yes .....you have recorded after invading of your baba turk....XVIII century...dont forget that.
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Post by Patrinos on May 25, 2010 5:33:35 GMT -5
Mehmeti Hoxha... you are getting funny... what the hell do you know about "byzantine times"..?
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Post by Pavel Chernev on May 25, 2010 7:58:34 GMT -5
I congratulate Pavel Chernev and his ability to troll every Shqiptar that comes to this forum. Well done, gentleman. Greetings friend, Thank you for the kind words, I have always held you in high esteem as one of the more intelligent forum members. Pavel.
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Post by Pavel Chernev on May 25, 2010 7:59:33 GMT -5
Poll Question: Are Albanians European? Yes [*******************] (10 votes, 47.6%) No [********************] (11 votes, 52.3%)
Just over 50% was enough for Montenegro to seperate from Serbia, so likewise it is official - Albanians are NOT European.
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Post by Novi Pazar on May 25, 2010 8:00:01 GMT -5
"Novi Pazar you mean about Serbian people, about your funny claim?, hoverer everyone know that you are hypocrite and no one take you seriously, so continue to fantasy and read your master hajduke."
How i'm l a hypocrite?, slavs are considered one of the original indo-european tribes with Germanics.
"The fact is Albanians are most european people compare to all Balkan nations."
How are the Albanians *most* european?, you tell me.
P.S one strike against Albanians being European is that 70% of Albanians from Albanian are Muslim, while outside Albania the Albanians are 99% Muslim.
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Post by insomniac on May 25, 2010 8:49:54 GMT -5
Novi with that mug face of yours... are not fooling anyone.
Being christian makes you as much European as Filipinos, Jews, Ethiopians and Indians.
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Post by Pavel Chernev on May 25, 2010 9:21:47 GMT -5
Interesting results so far. I will report the final polls to the University of Sofia for further investigation.
Thanks you for your time, P.C
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