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Post by Patrinos on Jun 7, 2010 15:10:32 GMT -5
Why does this chick, Cheryl Cole, looks Greek?
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Post by donnie on Jun 7, 2010 17:00:09 GMT -5
She's too pretty to be Greek, so I disagree.
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Post by Patrinos on Jun 7, 2010 17:03:07 GMT -5
She's too pretty to be Greek, so I disagree. well, at least in Greece we know that "Albanian" cannot go along "beauty" and "tourist".... "albanian beauty..." ... "albanian tourist".... she looks very similar to a friend of mine... I don't think we look British in Patra...
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Post by donnie on Jun 7, 2010 17:12:03 GMT -5
I dont think so either ,,, the Brits would be insulted.
PS The girl might be of the (normal non-Greek) mediterranean strain of people who partly made up Britain's indigenous Celtic population. Dark haired and dark eyed people are very common for instance in Wales (see Catherine Zeta Jones for example) which has a strong Celtic tradition and has preserved the indigenous Celtic speech that is Welsh. She might very well be from there ... people of Celtic descent in Britain and Ireland are as a rule darker haired than the Englishmen, and also have more redheads.
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Post by Patrinos on Jun 7, 2010 17:29:27 GMT -5
her type is very Greek. I couldn't distinguish her among Greek ladies...
Aren't/weren't Celts blondie to reddish...?
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Post by ulf on Jun 7, 2010 17:40:26 GMT -5
Celts are mostly ginger. Those darker Celts are mostly Roman influenced and some other settlers from Mediterranean. Anyway, she doesn't look Celtic at all, but also couldn't pass as average Greek girl
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Post by donnie on Jun 7, 2010 17:41:50 GMT -5
Celts were a heterogenous people, who covered large territories throughout Europe, including modern France and Benelux countries, Britan &Ireland, great parts of Iberia, northern Italy, Switzerland & Austria, parts of Germany, Czech Republic & Slovakia, as well as territories in the Balkans and even Anatolia. Naturally, there was variety. To Romans, these Celts might've appeared lighter, hence why they're described as such (though they were noted to dye their hair blond, so many of them might've been fake blondes) .. but then again, even the "dark" Welsh would be considered blond and reddish compared to Mediterranean Greeks and Romans. The key is to compare them to the Germanic English, at which point their darker pgimentation becomes obvious.
Again, when I say Mediterranean Welshmen, I'm not saying if you go to Wales they'll look like your uncle Panos, I'm saying there is a strain of Mediterranean people ... but they are still very fair compared to 'real' Mediterranean countries
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Post by ulf on Jun 7, 2010 17:51:45 GMT -5
Celts were a heterogenous people, who covered large territories throughout Europe, including modern France and Benelux countries, Britan &Ireland, great parts of Iberia, northern Italy, Switzerland & Austria, parts of Germany, Czech Republic & Slovakia, as well as territories in the Balkans and even Anatolia. Naturally, there was variety. To Romans, these Celts might've appeared lighter, hence why they're described as such (though they were noted to dye their hair blond, so many of them might've been fake blondes) .. but then again, even the "dark" Welsh would be considered blond and reddish compared to Mediterranean Greeks and Romans. The key is to compare them to the Germanic English, at which point their darker pgimentation becomes obvious. Again, when I say Mediterranean Welshmen, I'm not saying if you go to Wales they'll look like your uncle Panos, I'm saying there is a strain of Mediterranean people ... but they are still very fair compared to 'real' Mediterranean countries Ok, I was talking about Britons, not others
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Post by donnie on Jun 7, 2010 18:26:23 GMT -5
Well, even among Britons the gingers are in a minority, though considerably more numerous if you compare them with other countries. The highest concentration is apparently in Scotland, and there it reaches around fourteen per cent I believe.
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Post by terroreign on Jun 7, 2010 19:07:35 GMT -5
Yea she does have a greek look to her, her second picture looks slightly similar to Maria Manounos.
I see donnie is doing his ginger research, bravo
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Post by Emperor AAdmin on Jun 7, 2010 21:17:08 GMT -5
On first picture I though it was Kokinou Cheryl Cole: Greek appearance, roman voice and doesn't smile in videos (greek behavior)
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Post by Kastorianos on Jun 8, 2010 1:22:19 GMT -5
I disagree. She doesnt look typical Greek....Greek girls are not that gracious looking usually. There are Greek women who look like that, its no exotic look for a Greek but its no Greek look per se...its simply mediterranean I would say...not bound to one specific country..
lol and its surely no celtic look...kosovian crap-hour or what was that celtic-thing about?
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Post by Patrinos on Jun 8, 2010 4:30:47 GMT -5
I don't say that thats how the usual Greek women are... but you can find relatively many Greek ladies that look like her, and of course this look isn't british or celtic at all... PS. this peloponnesean beauty, Menounos, looks better...
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Post by restless1gr on Jun 8, 2010 5:43:36 GMT -5
[quote author=patrinos board=physicalracialanthropologydiscussion thread=30595 Why does this chick, Cheryl Cole, looks Greek?[/quote] I don't know but, god, YES she does!! she has typical greek look in her eyes and she looks like sissy christidou, a greek TV person! Attachments:
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Post by donnie on Jun 8, 2010 10:50:40 GMT -5
lol and its surely no celtic look...kosovian crap-hour or what was that celtic-thing about? Where did I say it is a 'Celtic' look you buffoon? Quite the contrary, I said Mediterranean individuals are a minority among Celts, but they do exist, hence why this girl's look is so 'Mediterranean'. To quote Coon; "In the first place, none of the regionally differentiated British groups shows as great a reëmergence of the northen Brünn race as that in Ireland. In the second, brunet Mediterranean; difficult to isolate in Ireland, have survived or reëmerged in large numbers in Wales and in the manufacturing districts of the Midlands and of Scotland. In the third place, the numerically predominant racial element in the British population is Nordic, with the Keltic Iron Age variety more important than the Anglo-Saxon or Germanic form. " carnby.altervista.org/troe/10-03.htm
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Post by Kastorianos on Jun 8, 2010 11:48:09 GMT -5
Dont blame me for your incapability of talking articulate....there is a difference between what you mean...and what you say....
We can not read your mind...
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Post by donnie on Jun 8, 2010 12:26:39 GMT -5
Dont blame your inert intellect on me. Nowhere did I say her look equals Celtic, only that there are people of Celtic descent that have the look, which means that her appearance doesnt deduce a Greek/Italian/non-British origins. See the difference?
Now you not being able to read between lines is one thing (i.e. the conclusion I highlighted above) but this wasnt what you claimed; you claimed I specified her look as Celtic. Which is either a plain lie or a stupid conclusion from your side, a lame attempt to appear witty. Better luck next time.
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Post by Kastorianos on Jun 8, 2010 13:16:46 GMT -5
Dont blame your inert intellect on me. Nowhere did I say her look equals Celtic, only that there are people of Celtic descent that have the look, which means that her appearance doesnt deduce a Greek/Italian/non-British origins. See the difference? Now you not being able to read between lines is one thing (i.e. the conclusion I highlighted above) but this wasnt what you claimed; you claimed I specified her look as Celtic. Which is either a plain lie or a stupid conclusion from your side, a lame attempt to appear witty. Better luck next time. Why dont you just admit that you expressed yourself awkwardly...I mean this is a bagatelle yet you want to make an elephant out of it. There was nothing to read between the lines...your post was unambiguous (bad for you)...now you want to kind of elongate what you wrote with regards to content...do you always defend yourself like that when you havent said what you meant? That doesnt count...what counts is what you said when we made fun of you...not what you are saying now...for the next time...think before you...write. You must exercise yourself more on that...truly.
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Post by ajax on Jun 8, 2010 17:41:04 GMT -5
Looks like this dude is so full of hate for Greeks he has to insult them any chance he gets without any regard to the integrity of the conversation/topic or his own argument. a big fat fail! Is he retarded?
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Post by Kastorianos on Jun 9, 2010 1:38:02 GMT -5
Of course he does hate us...he is an albo from Kosovo....and has still not forgiven us that we supported Serbia back in 1999....Kosovo albanians and Greeks...this bond doesnt work well....usually.
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