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Post by Nikola on Jul 6, 2010 6:16:34 GMT -5
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Post by chalkedon on Jul 6, 2010 7:25:59 GMT -5
meh...wahhabie's throw a couple molotov's in there and all is well...
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Post by fossil on Jul 6, 2010 14:32:39 GMT -5
yes, wahhabis.... I don't know what to say.... some mosques are not under the jurisdiction of IVZ ( Islamic religious community), which is bad...... and a big problem for IVZ and Macedonia... for the incident the police filed misdemeanor charges against participants, but it can not do anything else, without suspicions and evidence... but the police is waiting.... and will do the job....
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Post by EriTopSheqeri on Jul 6, 2010 16:21:12 GMT -5
Awww....the "friendly" makedonskis show their true "faces"...the only negative news they post about M Albanians is negative ...and the only negative news concerning Macedonia they post is about M Albanians Can't wait til we board Bulgaria
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Post by Nikola on Jul 6, 2010 17:37:20 GMT -5
Awww....the "friendly" makedonskis show their true "faces"...the only negative news they post about M Albanians is negative ...and the only negative news concerning Macedonia they post is about M Albanians Can't wait til we board Bulgaria Poor Albanians.
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Post by fossil on Jul 7, 2010 9:10:00 GMT -5
it doesn't concern only Albanians.... we are all citizens of Macedonia.... and the Albanians are not the only one who is Muslim... there are also Macedonians, Turks, Roma..... The IVZ is for all Muslims.... so the problem is not caused by Albanians, i mean maybe they are, but they do not suit as Albanians.... they suit as citizens of Macedonia.....
here is an example.... in one primary school, a teacher (woman) wears a burq (muslim scarf).... and the Albanian parents are against that, and wanted her not to wear it, or the school to do something for it....
in Macedonia there is no law ( for now) which does not allow wearing this stuff.....
but the parents think that wearing this is extreme, radical Islam, so they are against it...
maybe there will be some sollutions on the problem....
so it doesn't have to be connected with the "Albanian thing".... it is relative..... individual...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 7, 2010 10:00:30 GMT -5
Regarding muslims, south slavs should take a lesson from their greek brothers: Just convert anyone who is not orthodox, and ban islam.
Frankly guys, traveling via ex-yu is like being in the middle east or smth... mosques every few kilometes...
For Bosnia, i can understand it, its the majority, but Macedonia/serbia??? gimme a break!
by being too liberal, it seems, a country cannot gain much, maybe receive some bombs and be accused of genocide.... thats what Serbia got for allowing anyone to voice their opinion.
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Post by mystery on Jul 7, 2010 11:13:20 GMT -5
Regarding muslims, south slavs should take a lesson from their greek brothers: Just convert anyone who is not orthodox, and ban islam. Frankly guys, traveling via ex-yu is like being in the middle east or smth... mosques every few kilometes... For Bosnia, i can understand it, its the majority, but Macedonia/serbia? gimme a break! by being too liberal, it seems, a country cannot gain much, maybe receive some bombs and be accused of genocide.... thats what Serbia got for allowing anyone to voice their opinion. yeah and if they tried that s**t a civil war will happen you moron. Muslims probably form around 40% of the population, you really think it is that easy to convert that much people? You saw what happened back in 01', it will be even worst. They also tried converting(slavitizing names), deporting, abusing, etc but guess what? We are still here you gyro eating motherf**ker.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 8, 2010 1:46:30 GMT -5
Wait for the yanks to leave, and you will see what will happen. Muslims are 40%? thats paranoid. Anyway, Orthodox culturally and most importantly power-wise they are close to 99.99%
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Post by redbaron on Jul 8, 2010 17:56:17 GMT -5
Wait for the yanks to leave, and you will see what will happen. What a pathetic man you are.So you are saying "Wait until the guys i am afraid of leave and then i show you".Dude we have fought you with sticks,stones,knives and whatever we could even before the yanks existed. We have fought you and we will fight you in the future.Rest assure about that. Tony Blair farts in London, but the Serbs hear" Send the ground troops". Forty thousand "brave" serb soldiers exit Kosovo, the heart of Serbia, the cradle of Serbian orthodoxy in a heart beat. It is probably the only war in history where an Army wins a war without losing a single soldier. If Kosovo was that important to you serbs you shouldn't have left in the first place,we fought you with a fucked up guerrilla but the mere thought of the serbian professional army confronting the NATO army made you guys crap your pants.But still it is not late, you don't need to wait you know where we are, bring it on. Don't wait for the Yanks to leave they have a 99 years contract with a renewal option, which means they are not leaving before Kosovo becomes a NATO member.
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Post by srbobran on Jul 8, 2010 23:26:36 GMT -5
You moron they won because our air defence was from WWII and they didnt have the gusto for a ground invasion.
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Post by Nikola on Jul 9, 2010 7:30:06 GMT -5
Regarding muslims, south slavs should take a lesson from their greek brothers: Just convert anyone who is not orthodox, and ban islam. Frankly guys, traveling via ex-yu is like being in the middle east or smth... mosques every few kilometes... For Bosnia, i can understand it, its the majority, but Macedonia/serbia? gimme a break! by being too liberal, it seems, a country cannot gain much, maybe receive some bombs and be accused of genocide.... thats what Serbia got for allowing anyone to voice their opinion. No offence Pyrros but, you can't force people to convert or ban a religion. I'm not a fan of Islam in the Balkans either but, the only way to do what you're suggesting is by war, and I don't think it should come to that. I think only prosperity will cause people to forget about hardcore religion. If people have jobs and countries are advancing, religion will just disappear in the background. Or, maybe things will get worse in all of Europe and a big war will break out where muslims are going to be driven out just like Jews were.
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Post by Nikola on Jul 9, 2010 9:10:28 GMT -5
waz.euobserver.com/887/30446Radical Islam in Macedonia worries Western observersSVETLANA JOVANOVSKA AND BRANKO GJORGESKI
08.07.2010 @ 09:49 CETWestern diplomats and religious experts have voiced concerns about the spread of radical Islam among Muslim communities in the Balkans, after it transpired that alleged Wahabist radicals are operating and increasing their influence in Macedonia. The foreign-inspired religious group is active in the area around Skopje, Macedonia's capital. It has tried to perform a putsch in the Islamic religious community (IRC) after an incident in the Isa-Bey Mosque in Skopje last week. The Isa-Bey Mosque has turned into a stronghold of radical Islam, Ibrahim Shabani, Skopje's highest Islamic clergyman, recently warned. His accusations followed a fight during which Shabani was physically assaulted and expelled from the mosque while trying to hold prayer. Ramadan Ramadani, the Imam of the Isa-Bey Mosque, rejected the claims that his mosque is the flagship of Wahabism - a branch of Sunni Islam which is the official religion in Saudi Arabia. The head of the IRC, the Reis-ul-ulema Sulejman Rexhepim Rexhepi, had so far denied Macedonian mosques had been taken over by radical elements. But he has confirmed that information now. "Wahabists control four mosques in Skopje. The Internal Affairs Ministry gives us only verbal support but rests passive," he told the Albanian service of Radio Free Europe. He admitted the IRC had been trying to hide the Wahabi presence until now, hoping the radicals would withdraw and disappear again. "This didn't happen and we are going to name them for what they are," he said. For his part, Mr Shabani also urged justice to deal with what he says is a radical Islamist group. "Last week's coup was prepared by Islamic radicals operating in Skopje. This criminal Wahabist gang is known for its radical actions and harassment of Muslim believers. We will ask the competent authorities to stop these radical groups and bring them to justice. This was proof that Wahabist structures act against the Constitution of the Islamic Community, the rules of procedure and hierarchy," he said. Muslims are the second largest religious group in Macedonia after Orthodox Christians. The country has a population of 2 million, 25 percent of which are (predominantly Muslim) ethnic Albanians. The allegations that radical Islamic groups operate in Macedonia coincide with the discovery of such groups further afield in the region - Bosnia and Herzegovina, Kosovo and Serbia's Sandzak area. The events in Skopje seem to be part of the battle for control over several mosques. Continuous changes of imams have allowed radical successors to take over. First attempts were undertaken between 2003 and 2004 when foreign radical Islamic groups began to infiltrate Macedonia. A few months ago, 10 imams were replaced. Four more followed several days ago. "When a mosque is without an imam, other personalities have the leading word. And their interpretation of Islam is much more radical. That is where Wahabists see a chance to spread their views on believers. They aim to become imams," an anonymous IRC source told the Macedonian daily Dnevnik. The director of the State Commission for Relations with Religious Communities, Valentina Bozinovska, said that she is not aware of a new spread of radical Islam in the country. "It comes from some individuals," she said. A diplomat from a large European Union country disagrees. Radical Islam is the biggest fear in Western European capitals regarding Macedonia, he told WAZ.EUobserver. "Our analysis shows that in the coming years these tendencies will grow," he said. There are other opinions as well. University professor Zoran Matevski believes tensions and incidents are the result of political influences. "This is another remarkable proof that political parties have great influence in selecting the leadership of the IRC. In my opinion, this is not a calculation based on religious, but purely on political motivations. I believe this is the background to the alleged existence of Wahabist structures," Mr Matevski explained. "They don't say it in public, but Western diplomats are concerned about the growth of radical Islamic tendencies in the Balkans," said Olivier Gillet, a Belgian expert on religion and nationalism in the Balkans. "In 10 years we will have serious problems everywhere," he added. He recalled that a few months ago the Macedonian prime minister received a warning from Israel to be vigilant about radical Islam. Israel also shared intelligence about members of Hezbollah in the Balkans, he said. "In Western societies we also have this problem. The difference is that in the West, they are immigrant communities while in the Balkans the Muslim community has historical and sociological roots." Sarajevo and the Sandzak region in Serbia are often cited as two major centers of radical Islam in the Balkans. The Serbian authorities have kept quiet on the issue in order to avoid problems. Some diplomats assume there may be undercover terrorist training camps in Bosnia, but no reliable evidence of that has emerged so far.
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Post by redbaron on Jul 9, 2010 17:40:56 GMT -5
You moron they won because our air defence was from WWII and they didnt have the gusto for a ground invasion. You idiot, so the reason that forty thousand Serbian troops pussied out is because the air defense was old? Even the the talibans have the balls to put up a fight against NATO but the serbs shit their pants as soon as they heard "ground troops".
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 13, 2010 2:44:48 GMT -5
^^^ you illiterate piece of garbage, the tallibans never went to direct confrontation, like the Serbs did. All they do is hit and run (just like their cousins the albanians).
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 13, 2010 2:46:13 GMT -5
Regarding muslims, south slavs should take a lesson from their greek brothers: Just convert anyone who is not orthodox, and ban islam. Frankly guys, traveling via ex-yu is like being in the middle east or smth... mosques every few kilometes... For Bosnia, i can understand it, its the majority, but Macedonia/serbia? gimme a break! by being too liberal, it seems, a country cannot gain much, maybe receive some bombs and be accused of genocide.... thats what Serbia got for allowing anyone to voice their opinion. No offence Pyrros but, you can't force people to convert or ban a religion. I'm not a fan of Islam in the Balkans either but, the only way to do what you're suggesting is by war, and I don't think it should come to that. I think only prosperity will cause people to forget about hardcore religion. If people have jobs and countries are advancing, religion will just disappear in the background. Or, maybe things will get worse in all of Europe and a big war will break out where muslims are going to be driven out just like Jews were. point taken bro. you are correct. You have this ancient Slavic mentality of tolerance, most of the balkanoids just cannot understand. I admire this brave mentality.
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Post by plisbardhi on Jul 13, 2010 5:30:46 GMT -5
If Nikola was an Albanian and said that you would have had said something entirely different. You truely are a slavic coksuker... and thats "what most balkanoids just cannot understand"... except greeks in this case which is what you've proven here.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Jul 13, 2010 5:59:02 GMT -5
If Nikola was an Albanian and said that you would have had said something entirely different. You truely are a slavic coksuker... and thats "what most balkanoids just cannot understand"... except greeks in this case which is what you've proven here. If you find evidence that i am a secret agent, paid by some pan-slavic center or smth, then i will come out and say that i am pathetic slavic cock-sucker. But, because this is far from the case, the truth is that i am an ANCIENT GREEK MALE (MAN) and you are a pathetic sodomized anal-yzed cheap whore pro-american cheerleader.
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Post by mystery on Jul 13, 2010 11:43:05 GMT -5
If Nikola was an Albanian and said that you would have had said something entirely different. You truely are a slavic coksuker... and thats "what most balkanoids just cannot understand"... except greeks in this case which is what you've proven here. If you find evidence that i am a secret agent, paid by some pan-slavic center or smth, then i will come out and say that i am pathetic slavic c**k-sucker. But, because this is far from the case, the truth is that i am an ANCIENT GREEK MALE (MAN) and you are a pathetic sodomized anal-yzed cheap w**re pro-american cheerleader. ancient greek male from pakistan lol
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Post by zoti on Jul 13, 2010 13:19:51 GMT -5
"ANCIENT GREEK MALE": Does that sound likte the gayest thing ever or is it just me?
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