bato2
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Post by bato2 on Aug 14, 2010 1:04:16 GMT -5
What the f.... Always the stories will be twisted when it happened in Saranda or in Southern border. Greek media loves this kind of events, they rubbing their hands now. My condolences to the family, but it is Balkans and that is a fact,those kind of crimes are common. I hope the culprits get life sentence. Why you guys don't accept the fact that those guys had some dispute which ended up in in a fight and the crime. Those kind of crimes happen everyday in Albania, why Saranda be excluded? Specially at this time when tourism is high.
Here i can put a line on Greek mentality, which is not much different from the rest of the region. Few days ago were injured two German tourists in Belgrade by a Serbian. The answer from German media was calm and very moderate tho the attack was pure ethnically motivated... Being the Drama Queen of Balkans won't solve your countless problems
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Post by Kastorianos on Aug 14, 2010 3:00:22 GMT -5
why if it has always been ethnically albanian does Cheimarra then elect a Greek mayor? Why does it have a Greek school? Even if these people are not Greeks in origin...if they chose to be Greek...let them be. But why should someone risk his life for an artificial ethnicity? That does not make sense to me...
Greek media will be rubbing their hands now? I hope they will...such incidents must be punished in various ways...for the good of our people.
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Post by emily33 on Aug 14, 2010 12:23:57 GMT -5
funeral of Aristotle Gouma RIP
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Aug 14, 2010 13:45:33 GMT -5
I thought there were no Greeks in Alboland... You mean to tell me all those people are confused Albos? The Greek flag on the coffin ... the Greek national anthem.... Sad... Quite a few red head Greeks in there...
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Post by emily33 on Aug 14, 2010 15:43:04 GMT -5
Kanaris, there are hundreds of Greek Himariotes here in Boston and even a LOT more in the Maryland, DC and Virginia area. Don't listen to these fools.
According to them, Greece has 50% alb blood but there are no real Greeks in Albania...just people that have been 'bought'. Himara Dropoli Saranda Argyrocastro they are Greek villages...and they just hate that.
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Post by greekscandal on Aug 14, 2010 16:07:11 GMT -5
funeral of Aristotle Gouma RIP sad for an unneeded death ..... question : All the people at the burial must be the total Greek population of Albania ? One would imagine that it would be more of a massive amount
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Post by emily33 on Aug 14, 2010 16:12:29 GMT -5
fuck you greekscandal
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Kanaris
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Post by Kanaris on Aug 14, 2010 16:12:47 GMT -5
Why would the entire Greek population of Albania go this funeral..besides the cameraman did not pan back so we can see how many are there.
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Post by greekscandal on Aug 14, 2010 16:25:50 GMT -5
"f**k you greekscandal"
Likewise cu*t
χρειάζεστε για να χαλαρώσετε
Just asking a simple question , If I was from Albania I would make sure every Greek was there .
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Post by Kassandros on Aug 14, 2010 16:57:50 GMT -5
Again, no comment. But you will cry when the shoe is on the other foot. I just thought it fitting to match the level of intelligence and maturity of the Greek forum;) You have these Greeks (of this forum) making ridiculous conclusions from one incident thye know nothing about other than what a blogger tells them, concluding that their whole minority is being barbarically mistreated and opressed by the villainous Albanians ... with the cvnt Basil going as far as concluding that this is a problem of national proportions and how 3td world Albania opresses its malaka minority with all its might. This same 3rd world country gave the same malaka minority basic rights to education in its native language and access to radio programmes and newspapers in Greek at a time when it was a communistic dictatorship ... let alone today ,... while at the same time, Greece is yet to recognize any of its minorities. Not to mention not long ago, you had the same ppl defending the action of Greeks killing an Albanian fan wearing a red and black jersey .. they said "he provoked it" .. OK .. fvck you all then, this guy provoked those lads by speaking Greek, we're even Read Turkalbanian and try to open your small mind so as to get the picture; First of all they killed him INSIDE HIS store. Second he died for speaking his NATIVE language. How do you compare these two things with a retard wearing a FLAG on his body the DAY of the footall match and hanging around a place full of GREEKS? Your tiny mind finds these two things both provokative?! Second bre Turkalbaniam. when Albania was a commounist dictatorship means they were NOT faschists as they're today. That dictatorship was the one that kept Albania's natural faschist instincts hidden. Now you're just exposed. Look how Albanians react when there is a victim of the ones they feel its an "enemy". I have not seen these kind of reactions even from Serbs who were in war with you. Let alone Greeks. The only ones in these forum behaving like a tribe of mongols jumping around the body of a victim are Albanians and Turks. 3rd world uneducated faschists. Third. speaking about a problem and national proportions... you double face tourko.. just remember your sayings about 'bad' Serbs and 'suppressed' Kossovars... change the victim with a Kossovar killed by 8 Serbs just for speaking Albanian inside his shop... and then lets talk again. Double face Tourko, a Tourko. pfff.. just typical Albanians. The shithole of the lost humanity..
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Post by emily33 on Aug 14, 2010 17:30:02 GMT -5
greekscandal, did all albanians in Greece go to the hooligans funeral? Put on your big girl panties and deal with it!
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Post by greekscandal on Aug 14, 2010 18:11:07 GMT -5
I wouldn't know ,but if they did there would of been a shutdown in Greece .
/and don't worry about my panties please .
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Post by donnie on Aug 14, 2010 18:58:21 GMT -5
Those goatsh*ggers will think twice before speaking Greek from now on ;D We should've treated the Greek minority as they've treated us all along, but late is better than never.
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Post by rex362 on Aug 14, 2010 19:01:29 GMT -5
nonen ne pajth aturve
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Post by alb12345 on Aug 14, 2010 19:22:37 GMT -5
We unlucky to have such a neighbour one co-called greek get killed and they all go malagas if we did the same for every albanian killed in greece we may already be in war. Greece government like to provoke its not the first time and wont be the last but they barking at the wrong tree. I was in himara 2 weeks ago and stayed there for 4 days and asked the locals where they really from and why people say they are like this or that. Most of people there are in greek pension scheme and get 530 euros a mouth witch is a lot of money by albanian standarts i dont blame them for doing this everyone was to take care of their family by any mean. Greece has open new schools churches hospitals and give them pension what more in earth can this villagers want they already are more greeks then the people in greece.
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Post by Kanaris on Aug 14, 2010 19:58:15 GMT -5
Yeah sure..... whatever you say. I was in Himara too... I was told the opposite.
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Post by Arxileas on Aug 14, 2010 20:05:55 GMT -5
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Post by logjiktek on Aug 14, 2010 20:14:29 GMT -5
It's a sad incident. I absolutely loathe ppl that use violence and I hope the A*****e gets his ass handed to him.
However the motive for the murder -- killed for speaking Greek........eh sorry it's extremely fishy. But it does sure make for a great headline. In southern Albanian, there are many Greek flags around and most of them are to attract tourists. I've gone to cafes where Greek music is played and I've seen a kid in Durres (Durres is not southern Albania ofc) wearing a Greek shirt and noone cared. Albania provides Greek primary schools and the Greeks are recognized as a minority and have political representation. We Albanians tend to be quite fair to our minorities. Even in Kosova there is Turkish is an official language in certain areas and they have schools in their languages.....the Albanians in Turkey don't even half of their rights.
To reiterate my point again, Greek killed for speaking Greek makes for great headlines. Especially in times like today and the sh*t Greece is going through. Sure makes for a great distraction for the Greek ppl that will eat this story up.
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Post by albquietman on Aug 15, 2010 0:05:48 GMT -5
It's a sad incident, nobody deserves to die like that, but I think you guys are overreacting more than himariots themselves, except greekscandal, who puts in use common sense (that most of you lack by the way) and she lives in Greece unlike most of you.
First, the accident didn't happen as Basil describes it, in the victims store, but in the national road. The victim had an argument on the road with some albanian guys from Vlore, as the police said, and that ended up as we all know.
Second, Bollano claims that the victim got killed because he didn't speak albanian, and that was the reason that he was executed. Well he was 35, and that means that he finished at least the elementary and middle school in albanian language, because 20 years ago he was at least 15 years old, so how come he didn't speak albanian? As a matter of fact, everyone in Himara speaks albanian, at least 3 years ago when I was there...
Third, and if he refused to speak albanian for known reasons, like the hundred of euros per month that Greece is giving to him and to everyone else that claims to be greek, I don't think that's worth the trouble killing someone just because he doesn't speak albanian in Albania, when we all know that the greek minority in Albania spoke and still speaks greek everywhere in Albania (when I say greek minority, that doesn't apply to Himara).
Third, some news websites say that it was a car accident, but that remains to be proven by the albanian authorities, and as a matter of fact, 7 people are already arrested.
Fourth, before you guys, like Basil and the others come up with conclusions and start insulting albanians, please do your homework first, because I guess all these years that you spent so far on the face of this planet, should've taught you the main lesson in life...before you start talking, you better read, listen and think. And if you do that, you'll see that such crimes happen in Greece too, and these kind of crimes unfortunately happen everywhere and everyday...so stop to politicize everything that happens in Himara...it's getting annoying...
And the last, get a life ladies and gentlemen...and don't loose your sleep over the himariots, because when Greece will run out of money, your himariots will dump you overnight and will become albanians again...unfortunately that's the way these bastards are...but if you really love them, well, good luck then...
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Post by emily33 on Aug 15, 2010 6:28:13 GMT -5
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albquietman, I know a LOT of himariotes from Boston down to Virginia and they seem to be the most crazed and militant of all the vorioepirotes. I'm not the Greek government so they have nothing to prove to me. Just saying.
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