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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Aug 17, 2010 6:22:00 GMT -5
Bosnian Serb leader condemns Turkey's activities in Bosnia
Bosnian Serb leader Milorad Dodik accused Turkey on Monday of interfering in Bosnia's internal political affairs and Ankara of acting in favor of Bosnian Muslims.
"We resent the fact that Turkey wants a unified and centralized Bosnia, favoring only one of the peoples" living in the country, Dodik told Bosnian state radio from Israel, following talks with Israeli Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman.
Dodik said he had told Lieberman that the Bosnian Serb community "resented Turkey's strong presence in Bosnia motivated only by support for the Bosnian Muslims, without any willingness to comprehend the context in which Bosnia exists."
"I told the minister that it is not possible to accept an intermediary role by Turkey," he said, without elaborating.
The 1992-1995 Bosnian conflict left the country split into two semi-independent entities — the Serbs' Republika Srpska and the Muslim-Croat Federation — each having its own government.
They are united by only weak central institutions.
Bosnian Serb leaders have constantly opposed further centralization, as demanded by the Muslims — who are a majority in Bosnia as a whole — and also the European Union.
They claim such a process would reduce their autonomy.
During his visit to Israel, Dodik was to meet President Shimon Peres later Monday in Jerusalem.
Relations between Turkey and Israel have severely deteriorated since Israeli commandos raided a humanitarian flotilla heading for Gaza on May 31, killing eight Turks and one American citizen of Turkish descent.
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Post by hellboy87 on Aug 17, 2010 9:27:48 GMT -5
there are lots of Bosniaks in Turkey,babe
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Post by jonleka on Aug 17, 2010 20:09:39 GMT -5
The days of killing people for their relegion are history, serbs havent got a grasp on it yet, or is it a dumb game serbs like to play.
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Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Aug 18, 2010 5:23:12 GMT -5
The days of killing people for their relegion are history, serbs havent got a grasp on it yet, or is it a dumb game serbs like to play. What are you talking about?
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Post by wbb on Aug 18, 2010 6:17:31 GMT -5
Long Live Turkiye!!!! Turkiye-Hungary 4 eva!!!! I had a long wish 2 see Turkiye return 2 da Balkans, it would be da best.
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Aug 18, 2010 8:31:00 GMT -5
Long Live Turkiye!!!! Turkiye-Hungary 4 eva!!!! I had a long wish 2 see Turkiye return 2 da Balkans, it would be da best. You do realise that the Ottoman Empire and the Austro-Hungary Empire were fighting each other and killing each other during that period?
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Aug 18, 2010 8:34:34 GMT -5
The days of killing people for their relegion are history, serbs havent got a grasp on it yet, or is it a dumb game serbs like to play. Shiptaris haven't got a clue or a grasp of reality and history. Shiptaris are so backwards even today that they still resort to barbaric acts of violents and other methods that were used and conducted centuries ago and are seen as history. No modern people or modern state would resort to such barbaricism as to what Albanians even today are doing. Albania is 50 years behind than the rest of the Europe is. Serbia, Croatia, BIH, Slovenia and even FYROM are atleast 40 years still ahead of Albania in terms of economy, politics, infrastructure and technology. The Albanian Airforce, Army and Navy is made up of outdated aircrafts, weapon's, naval fleets and equipments that were used in the late 40's and earlie 50's. Albanians as a people are very backwards in almost all aspects. The only thing Albanians are modern of is terrorism and organised crimes.
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Post by drinus123 on Aug 18, 2010 11:08:45 GMT -5
unfortunately b/c serbs invaded the balkans we will always have intolerance. :/
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Post by thracian08 on Aug 18, 2010 13:39:31 GMT -5
"You do realise that the Ottoman Empire and the Austro-Hungary Empire were fighting each other and killing each other during that period? "
Do you still live in the past?
The article is biased and it does not indicate just how Turkey could meddle in Bosnia's affairs. It's only words, no evidence for it.
Actually Turkey is quite active in it's role in the Balkans with all countries.
Isn't Bosnia a country? Why would a portion be autonomous?
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Aug 19, 2010 3:07:55 GMT -5
unfortunately b/c serbs invaded the balkans we will always have intolerance. :/ Serbs were in the Balkans long before Albanians arrived in the Balkans. So our intollerence goes towards Albanimals.
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Aug 19, 2010 3:10:57 GMT -5
"You do realise that the Ottoman Empire and the Austro-Hungary Empire were fighting each other and killing each other during that period? " Do you still live in the past? The article is biased and it does not indicate just how Turkey could meddle in Bosnia's affairs. It's only words, no evidence for it. Actually Turkey is quite active in it's role in the Balkans with all countries. Isn't Bosnia a country? Why would a portion be autonomous? Actually Turkey's role in the past as the Ottoman Empire is the reason why the Balkans is so unstable and so divided. It is the reason why there were countless of wars in the Balkans. If it had not been Turkey's role in the Balkans and had there have not been the Ottoman Empire, the Balkans we know today would be completely different and it would be in the same level politically and economically with the rest of the Europe. One must look at the past before seeing the present. The past is what has made the present the way it is today. Had the past been different, the present would be different.
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Post by wbb on Aug 19, 2010 5:07:35 GMT -5
Pan-Turkism and Pan-Turanism is just what we need in the Balkans. Hungary is the island of Turks in Balkan Europe.
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Post by Marshall_Stanko on Aug 19, 2010 5:35:16 GMT -5
Pan-Turkism and Pan-Turanism is just what we need in the Balkans. Hungary is the island of Turks in Balkan Europe. So your a Turk living in Hungary?
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Post by Atan on Aug 19, 2010 6:58:59 GMT -5
You seem to be quite misguided. Your favor goes to the fellow Muslis eh? Not because you actually believe in what you say.
You are not even an ethnic Hungarian. The Hungarians are not Turks. They are Ugro-Finnic people. Their language is related to those of Estonians and Finns. The fact that they were steppe people doesn't make them turks (same case with Bulgars). Plus the Turks brought disaster to them as well in Middle Ages. You should know this since you have been in Hungary for quite some time. Shame on you.
The Indo-Europeans were dwelling in Asia also. The mummies found by the Chinese proves it. The Chinese refer to the Huns as "Red-headed devils and centaurs with scarry light eyes". The tribes of Sarmatians spread far east in the past. They were white people - tall and strong. The Turks on the other hand are Mongoloid - and I don't refer to our wannabee Turks in modern Turkey which have nothing to do genetically with the real Turkic people.
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Post by Atan on Aug 19, 2010 7:01:37 GMT -5
And we don't need anything "Pan-whatever". We are fine as we are. The turks should mind their business and not stick their noses everywhere. These caused only trouble in the past and they should leave the Balkans alone.
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Post by vinjak on Aug 19, 2010 15:02:51 GMT -5
^^^^
Well said.
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Post by oszkarthehun on Aug 19, 2010 22:48:01 GMT -5
1) Hungary is not an island of Turks in Europe, actually comparitively there are not that many Turks in Hungary, much more Turks in Austria and Germany and other European countries. 2) Turanism ? situation the article describes is more to do with Islamic countries showing solidarity for other islamic countries. 3) In any case modern Turkey doesnt represent historical Turanism as Turanistic peoples were pre Islamic and had their own religion, modern Turkey/Turks bear many influences and especially Arabesque and Persian influences and Islamic influences this has little to do with historical Turanism, little to do with most of Europe and little to do with Hungary. You seem to be quite misguided. Your favor goes to the fellow Muslis eh? Not because you actually believe in what you say. You are not even an ethnic Hungarian. The Hungarians are not Turks. They are Ugro-Finnic people. Their language is related to those of Estonians and Finns. The fact that they were steppe people doesn't make them turks (same case with Bulgars). Plus the Turks brought disaster to them as well in Middle Ages. You should know this since you have been in Hungary for quite some time. Shame on you. The Indo-Europeans were dwelling in Asia also. The mummies found by the Chinese proves it. The Chinese refer to the Huns as "Red-headed devils and centaurs with scarry light eyes". The tribes of Sarmatians spread far east in the past. They were white people - tall and strong. The Turks on the other hand are Mongoloid - and I don't refer to our wannabee Turks in modern Turkey which have nothing to do genetically with the real Turkic people.
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Post by hellboy87 on Aug 22, 2010 21:29:41 GMT -5
You seem to be quite misguided. Your favor goes to the fellow Muslis eh? Not because you actually believe in what you say. You are not even an ethnic Hungarian. The Hungarians are not Turks. They are Ugro-Finnic people. Their language is related to those of Estonians and Finns. The fact that they were steppe people doesn't make them turks (same case with Bulgars). Plus the Turks brought disaster to them as well in Middle Ages. You should know this since you have been in Hungary for quite some time. Shame on you. The Indo-Europeans were dwelling in Asia also. The mummies found by the Chinese proves it. The Chinese refer to the Huns as "Red-headed devils and centaurs with scarry light eyes". The tribes of Sarmatians spread far east in the past. They were white people - tall and strong. The Turks on the other hand are Mongoloid - and I don't refer to our wannabee Turks in modern Turkey which have nothing to do genetically with the real Turkic people. Thats right.The Indo-Europeans went as far east to China,West China to be precise. It was the Tocharians who settled there.The mummies of them are well preserved(with their blond and red hair still there) and had been discovered decades ago.Discovery Channel also has an episode on the Tocharian mummies narrated by John Malkovich. Not all Tocharians died off though.Some survived and intermarried the Turkics who settled there later which is why you can find Uyghurs with European features. And yes,Turkics are originally Mongoloid,just like how Indo-Europeans are originally European(White) but today there are Middle Eastern IEs(Persians,Kurds) and Indian IEs(Punjabis,Gujaratis,Marathis) and there are also Middle Eastern(Anatolian Turks,Azeris) and European(Gagauz,Chuvash) Turkics.
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Post by ponosbosne on Aug 30, 2010 7:30:38 GMT -5
Keep it come my Turkish brothers, we need more of you in Bosnia!
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Post by aayy on Sept 14, 2010 11:28:20 GMT -5
Isn't Nazi symbolics forbidden in these forums?
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