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Post by aayy on Oct 20, 2010 12:00:14 GMT -5
pyrros,
There were only two Croats who really liked Yugoslavia - Tito and MiG. Tito died and MiG now is the only one.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 21, 2010 3:07:00 GMT -5
This kid (MiG) needs to loosen up a little bit. He is struggling to sound serious and that makes him even more funny. Basically he is a power freak, who has high ambitions, but limited qualities. (pretty much like the majority of yugoslav politicians post-1990).
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Post by ulf on Oct 21, 2010 6:55:45 GMT -5
asen, in his main acting role:
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Post by MiG on Oct 22, 2010 10:59:24 GMT -5
Kid compared to you, yes. But a kid, no. I wish. I wouldn't have to read some of the s**t you write, as I'd have no political interests as a kid. But its funny seeing that phrase coming from someone like you. Loosen up a bit? Haha, you're the last person to tell anyone to loosen up a bit. Sorry to tell you, I'm actually not being serious. Sarcastic more like it. When it comes to you at least. Yes. How did you guess that? Attack Pyrros, attack with all your literary might! Hahaha I kind of died a little inside when I read this. But you know me personally, right? Since you can make those comments on a solid basis. Interesting however that you spend ample amounts of time on here, fighting a cause, Mr.Internet Warrior. Haha, s**t bro, I didn't know I knew you in real life. Which of the Serbs are you, that I know? You are Serb, aren't you? See I could go on and get personal too. Bring your wife and kids into this, but I'm not. I actually have respect for the ones you hold dear in your heart. At least I can hope that they're not as f**king stupid as you. Right? There are good politicians in the ex-Yugoslav nations, except they have no real base to start anywhere decent. People don't have time for politics down there. I do have to ask Pyrros. How big of a tool can you really be?
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 25, 2010 6:08:53 GMT -5
^^ MiG, you don't deserve any more attention. I bet you are the only one (re)reading your own posts. Your plastic style has gotten old, boring and vacant, pretty much like your self.
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Post by MiG on Oct 25, 2010 14:46:51 GMT -5
So I suggest you take yourself out of the Croatia SF itself, not just this thread. You posting here, is like begging and screaming for attention yourself. Why the hell would you even post here if you weren't looking for attention; and with a post like the one you wrote. Haha, I don't deserve any more attention. Please, get over yourself. Re-reading? Nah bro. You must have me confused with someone else.. like yourself. Haha, yes of course. You say that every single time we go through a debate, and you end up backing out because my style is "old, boring and vacant". Pick and choose your fights. I understand your strategy Pyrros, I really do. Now, since I "don't deserve any more attention", refrain from posting any further. Thank you.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 26, 2010 2:04:32 GMT -5
^ Grow up (or at least try).
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Post by MiG on Oct 26, 2010 9:30:13 GMT -5
Why keep coming back Pyrros. Wouldn't you be the bigger man by letting this go, and by letting it go, admitting that you're wrong (as always).
Either way, you're the one that needs to "grow up", and not take life so seriously. "Maws", as they say.
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Post by andromeda on Oct 26, 2010 14:43:48 GMT -5
pyrros, There were only two Croats who really liked Yugoslavia - Tito and MiG. Tito died and MiG now is the only one. I LOL-ed. But seriously a lot of Croats liked Yugoslavia. The Croatian pro Yugoslav communist party ( not even counting the Serbs) was vibrant and all over towns and villages in Croatia you could see some bit of voluntary Yugoslav pride ( I.e. not forced). In fact , the largest anti-Yugoslav sentiment came from the diaspora and not Croatia itself. Croats and Slovenes had a different vision of Yugoslavia than did the Serbs. It was the concept of a centralized unitary state ( Serb) vs. a federated multi-republic ( Croat & almost everyone else) that created the fault line in Yugoslavia. I have Yugo-nostalgics in my family. I wouldn't say that I am one but I am not a Croatian or Yugoslav 'patriot' or 'nationalist.' I prefer no personal loyalty to any state or similar institution.
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Post by redbaron on Oct 26, 2010 22:32:14 GMT -5
Why keep coming back Pyrros. Wouldn't you be the bigger man by letting this go, and by letting it go, admitting that you're wrong (as always). Either way, you're the one that needs to "grow up", and not take life so seriously. "Maws", as they say. Dude thanks for having the patience of wasting your time with one of the most miserable characters in WWW. Lunch is on me.Baby back ribs.
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Post by MiG on Oct 28, 2010 8:39:05 GMT -5
Waste of my time? Not even. It got me baby back ribs.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Nov 2, 2010 7:59:11 GMT -5
But seriously a lot of Croats liked Yugoslavia. The Croatian pro Yugoslav communist party ( not even counting the Serbs) was vibrant and all over towns and villages in Croatia you could see some bit of voluntary Yugoslav pride ( I.e. not forced). In fact , the largest anti-Yugoslav sentiment came from the diaspora and not Croatia itself. Croats and Slovenes had a different vision of Yugoslavia than did the Serbs. It was the concept of a centralized unitary state ( Serb) vs. a federated multi-republic ( Croat & almost everyone else) that created the fault line in Yugoslavia. Last time i checked, ex-Yu *was* a federation. lol! So i dont know of which centralized concept you talk about. I think that the most nationalist sentiment was among the ranks of Croats/Maks/Slovs. Serbs (at least those in BiH) didn't even know how an orthodox church looks like. I have Yugo-nostalgics in my family. I wouldn't say that I am one but I am not a Croatian or Yugoslav 'patriot' or 'nationalist.' I prefer no personal loyalty to any state or similar institution. Those were sane Croats, and they were the majority. Same thing in BiH. Unfortunately west managed to twist reality 180 deg, and created the conditions for a war to erupt. PS I am yugo-nostalgic myself, even if i crossed your country when i was 12 at a time when it was still called Yugoslavia. This country was the best thing that ever happened to the balkans.
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Post by MiG on Nov 2, 2010 22:23:35 GMT -5
He is talking about the proposals made in the very late 80's and very early 90's about a Confederation of the Republics, and a reworking of the Constitution, to decentralize the nation from Beograd. Proposals made by the Slovene and Croatian Communist Parties, and other politicians, like Tudjman.
Nationalist sentiments were first shown by Albs, then Serbs, followed by everybody else. That's at least how I remember it. And it all started in 1987.
Albs did it because they wanted to make Kosovo into a Republic, so it would have equal status to Slovenia and the rest. The Serbs however, wanted the opposite. Some wanted to even abolish its autonomy. I don't blame them, as it would have been a brilliant political move to attach it to Serbia Proper.
That's like saying a mouse has no idea what cheese looks like. The dumbest thing I've ever read this week so far.
So the sane Croats are the ones that loved Yugoslavia so much, that they should have let all other nationalities run all over us? Is that a sane Croat, Pyrros? The one that has no opinions, and cannot express their own thoughts?
Wrong. Completely wrong. Given the circumstances of the economy, and the life getting a little harsher, people would blame anything. Why didn't the Czechoslovak SR dissolve in a fit of war? Yugoslavia was a multi-ethnic state, which had politicians, and its people tear it apart from the inside out. Yugoslavia wasn't destroyed from outside forces. The west stood by for years, and that's still wrong. They profited from it, that's still wrong. But they didn't destroy it. Not even close to destroying it.
I'll fully agree with you here. Yugoslavia is a brilliant idea. Brilliant! But it came, maybe too soon, or even too late.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Nov 2, 2010 23:46:30 GMT -5
"Nationalist sentiments were first shown by Albs, then Serbs, followed by everybody else. That's at least how I remember it. And it all started in 1987."
Completely wrong. My wife back in Zadar, during family summer vacations, was told by the local kids there that she is not like them. What? she asked. And the kids replied, you are not Croat, you are Serb. And the little girl went to daddy to ask what "Serb" means.
"That's like saying a mouse has no idea what cheese looks like. The dumbest thing I've ever read this week so far."
Maybe because you take stupid assumptions for granted? Again, in Bihac, there was NO ORHTODOX church, and Serbs there got baptised by a priest, in their own home.
"Czechoslovak SR dissolve in a fit of war? Yugoslavia was a multi-ethnic state, which had politicians, and its people tear it apart from the inside out. Yugoslavia wasn't destroyed from outside forces. The west stood by for years, and that's still wrong. They profited from it, that's still wrong. But they didn't destroy it. Not even close to destroying it."
Come on, the war was planned and designed, and it would be done, whether we liked it or not.
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Post by MiG on Nov 3, 2010 11:14:29 GMT -5
I'm from Kakanj. When I used to go to Catici, a village not even 3 kilometers outside of Kakanj, I'd be called different, and not like "them". And your argument is basically "A friend told me". I'll believe it though, for the sake of arguing. Why wouldn't they differentiate? Croats from Croatia were always like that. So were Serbs from Serbia. People from Bosnia, that's a little different. BiH was, and to this day still is, the heart of Yugoslavism. What the fuck does that even mean, and how is it even useful to you? You just called your own assumption stupid. Where was your assumption? You're one confused little man. Or maybe you actually meant that your argument, previous to mine, with "Serbs not knowing what an orthodox church was", was an assumption? Since you made no intellectual sense; Can you explain that? But sure, no orthodox church. Whatever, we'll flow with that. But why add the "got baptized by a priest, in their own home". Just because they didn't have a Church, doesn't mean they never saw one. Had they never seen one, they wouldn't really understand their religion fully. A Church isn't a building. It's a collection of people within a community, sharing the same beliefs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but, a rather large one is being built right now. www.spc.rs/Vesti-2004/12/bihac1-v.jpgIt was planned and designed, as time went on. Everything always is. But not by outsiders. Yugoslavia was never going to be an outside job, because if it was, the people would always stand together against an enemy. They tore themselves apart.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Nov 4, 2010 4:13:15 GMT -5
MiG, when you will learn to stop ranting at every possible excuse like a sodomized lil b1tch, then we'll talk. PS about this unfinished church in Bihac, i am curious who will pray there, when no Serbs live there?
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Post by MiG on Nov 4, 2010 15:02:09 GMT -5
I thought we were having a clear cut conversation about politics, and our opinions and views. Is it really my fault you lack the basic intelligence and open-mindedness to understand and view things from every perspective, and come up with a clearer view of things. I apologize for your ignorance. Apparently my lack thereof bothers you. I'm glad you at least write the name properly now. And I'm the one that rants? You fucking little sissy. You start threads in the Serbia forum, leading to other forums, where you need "backup" from the rest of your douche-crew. How the fuck do you even do that, if you're a dignified adult? Are you an adult at all? You're a fucking joke of debater. A fucking joke... Remember that. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biha%C4%87#SettlementsBihać Total: 45,553 * 27,418 - 60.18% Bosniaks * 8,218 - 18.04% Serbs * 4,805 - 10.54% Croats * 4,020 - 8.82% Yugoslavs * 1,092 - 2.42% others and unknown That's who. You uneducated piece of shit.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Nov 22, 2010 5:20:34 GMT -5
You lil piece of sh1t, why did you present the 1991 numbers?
GOD!!! YOU ARE SUCH A IDIOT.
i cant think of many persons in here who had their butts owned sooooo many times as your pathetic self!
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So you read the Serbia forums you lil p**y? but are afraid to comment?
LMAO!!!
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your 8,000 number above is surreal. a proof that you live in your own planet. nobody knows apparently how many serbs live today in bihac (no census post 1991 was never done), but the very few brave ones who stayed there came through a living hell.
Most Serbs sold their houses and never went back.
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Post by MiG on Nov 22, 2010 11:19:39 GMT -5
Where is there a recent census? You f**king idiot, you really think that they'd build a church without people to attend it? Serbs are no less than 3,500-4,000 in that city at this moment. How f**king retarded can you get. Open your mind a little. Haha, that would actually mean something coming from an intelligent and open minded person. But since it's you, it's like having an idiot tell you you're an idiot. Sorry Pyrros, but your statement, and claim, is a little far fetched. Owned? What are you, 6 years old? You f**king chich, if someone gets "owned", they'd never admit it. Yes I've lost debates, of course, it happens. But you, you've lost every single one. You arguing is like a train wreck. Impossible to salvage, and always real messy. Quite honestly, arguing with you is like arguing with a 6 year old. I'll give you something though, you have persistence; and how Goebbels said it, repeat a lie long enough, and it will become the truth. LOL! You actually expect me to respond to some of the idiotic bulls**t you produce? I actually don't read it, I skim through it at best. I read Ruse, Ioan, Asen, and other members posts, and replies to you. Why? Because they're constructive, and don't type like a FOB chich. Either way, I don't give a f**k about your position on Serbia, Macedonia, Greece, Albania, or the Balkans in general. Haha call me a p**y and tell me I'm afraid to comment. But realize, dude, you're not worth so much of my time. I read s**t when I'm bored in class, and it amazes me how much s**t comes out of your mouth. I'll respond to you here, no problem. Why? Because here, I won't let s**t slide like others do in other forums. I'll argue with you no problem, you f**king wannabe slav. I'd kill myself if you were slavic, since you're a waste of oxygen on this planet. I'd be embarrassed to call you a fellow Slav. Yes, laugh at your own jokes. Or better yet, at your own expense. To a normal human being, you're the largest degree moron anyone could come across. What's with the PS'? I don't understand how you can't write a short form essay, or a longer form paragraph, arguing, without using PS. f**k you're childish. How's that proof I live in my "own planet" (Own world you stupid douche). It just proves that its the latest record of Serbs in Bihac. What an idiotic statement, you uneducated fool. Besides your little rants, and heroic feats to spread propaganda through the internet, Serbs outside of RS actually lead normal lives, just like Croats and Bosniaks do within RS. Believe it or not. Maybe you should stop reading outsiders blogs and s**t like that, and get out more to talk to the real people. Of course discrimination happens, it happens everywhere, even in the west, you can't get away from it. But to say that Serbs are going through a living hell, is a little way more than any normal person can bare to read/hear. And you know that most Serbs did that? Because you're the one that was there with all of them, every step of the way? I wish you went through a little bit of the war, just so you could shut that trap below your nose, and actually think critically. You're nothing but a f**king Greek, and no matter if you married a Serb or not, you have nothing to do with Yugoslavia, Bosnia, or anything Slavic in the Balkans. So go f**k yourself, and your opinion, you worthless piece of s**t. "PS" You know what I think of you... to me you're just some two time chich dude. Like a f**king penny, two-faced, and worthless. But it shouldn't matter, because to you I'm just a Croat, and to you my opinions don't matter. Correct? Dosvidanya, Tovarish.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Nov 23, 2010 4:40:11 GMT -5
MiG, you are out of the equation dude. Seriously. Needless to say i didn't read but your first line, where you estimated Serbs in Bihac around 4,000. Let me tell you, there not even 100 of them left. You produce exponentially large amounts of BS to the input your opponent provides. It is hard to follow you, but then again who cares?
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