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Post by ulf on Oct 18, 2010 6:47:53 GMT -5
Is this representing the average catholic croat after another preaching by his pedofile warmonger ustasa nazi priest? The cross seems catholic, anyway. In Serbia/Bosnia usually by this: we mean serbian orthodox, while by this: we mean roman catholic. Pyrros, Orthodox Serbian cross looks like: or but only this blue area usually stands on top of churches
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 18, 2010 6:53:53 GMT -5
ULF i was implying a direct comparison on the cross's outlines, based on the cow's cross that Andromeda posted. The outline in your jpeg is almost identical to the black shaped cross i posted above.
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Post by ulf on Oct 18, 2010 6:58:15 GMT -5
yeah, 2nd picture is not the best, but shape of cross on 1st picture, which by some reason won't open looks like more like Slavic cross:
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Post by ulf on Oct 18, 2010 6:59:49 GMT -5
and here is Serbian Orthodox Cross:
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 18, 2010 7:15:38 GMT -5
yeah, 2nd picture is not the best, but shape of cross on 1st picture, which by some reason won't open looks like more like Slavic cross: Hahaha. Do you know which cross that is? That's the cross that represented the Magyar kingdom. Typical that Croats would use it. Serbs use a cross based on the Byzantine design.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 18, 2010 10:06:57 GMT -5
Aziz, what you gotta do is harry on for your show. Your gay fans are awaiting you.
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 18, 2010 11:05:31 GMT -5
The point is that you seem to think that only the Serbs have suffered from all the Balkans, when we all know that that's not the case. Each country has had its share of hardships. Too many empty promises, not enough substantial action. I suggest you shut your trap. Do what you have to do and I'll do what I have to do. The only ones who've suffered? No. The ones who've suffered the most? Definitely.
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Post by ulf on Oct 18, 2010 11:31:00 GMT -5
yeah, 2nd picture is not the best, but shape of cross on 1st picture, which by some reason won't open looks like more like Slavic cross: Hahaha. Do you know which cross that is? That's the cross that represented the Magyar kingdom. Typical that Croats would use it. Serbs use a cross based on the Byzantine design. Seal of Serbian lord Strojimir had same shape as the one above: PS. It's dubbed that the seal was maybe made in time of reign of his grandson Caslav but doesn't matter as they were 1st ruling Serbian dynasty.
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 18, 2010 11:46:29 GMT -5
Hahaha. Do you know which cross that is? That's the cross that represented the Magyar kingdom. Typical that Croats would use it. Serbs use a cross based on the Byzantine design. Seal of Serbian lord Strojimir had same shape as the one above: PS. It's dubbed that the seal was maybe made in time of reign of his grandson Caslav but doesn't matter as they were 1st ruling Serbian dynasty. That's strange. He even died before the creation of the Magyar principality. Why would Magyars adopt a Serb symbol?
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Post by ulf on Oct 18, 2010 12:15:17 GMT -5
Because it was seal of Great Moravia originally Hungarian emperors just stole the seal
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 18, 2010 12:21:32 GMT -5
Oh, I see. It's Slovakian. That explains a lot.
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Post by ivo on Oct 18, 2010 12:36:51 GMT -5
And how exactly have you come to that conclusion.
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 18, 2010 12:49:01 GMT -5
And how exactly have you come to that conclusion. You're joking right? Let's take a look at the last hundred and so years. First there's WW1 in which a quarter of the male population was lost and an uncounted number of Serbs lost their lives to disease and massacres by the occupation forces. Then there's the retreat through "Albania" where Serbs were picked off like flies by greedy raiders until a small segment of the original retreaters remained. Then there's WW2 in which over a million Serbs lost their lives. Then there's the suppression of Serbdom during the socialist regime. Then there were the last wars in which Serbs lost two sacred homelands to interlopers not to mention being demonized for defending themselves against the clear aggressors. There's a whole lot more but I can't be stuffed. The result of all this? Serbs make up the largest refugee population in the Balkans if not all of Europe. Serbs have also lost more people than all the others in the Balkans combined in the last century, excluding the Greeks of course as hundreds of thousands of them were massacred by the Turks. And don't pretend (like you always) that Serbs were the aggressors in the last war because Serbs had nothing to gain from war, nor were they organised into a single entity unlike all other warring sides.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 18, 2010 13:05:25 GMT -5
Ulf thanx for the info on the orthodox symbols.
Deucaon, you are writing in vein, you are talking to a broken gramophone (aziz) with no ability to think. Just wait for his idiotic one-liner answer to your fairly verbose post.
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Post by ivo on Oct 18, 2010 13:34:47 GMT -5
WWI and WWII were concious decisions. The Serbian government decided in favour of an action, they rolled the dice and the events unfolded as they did. Complaining about the death count of Serbs in either of WWI or WWII is rather idiotic. Russia, for example, lost enough people to pupulate two or three Serbias. But like I said, Serbia made it's own decisions as did everyone else. Yet, it seems it's only Serbs that keep complaining and whining like little children.
Again, this is something that is due to Serbia's own decisions. It's not like the Serbs were just sitting there minding their own business.. and if that's what you believe, if you think that Serbs are innocent victims of the mean ol' cold world, then you are dellusional.
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Post by MiG on Oct 18, 2010 15:18:49 GMT -5
Then for your sake tell her too feed you healthy at least. How much do you actually spend on cross-pacific flights? You do know that personal trainers don't even cost that much. Do you?
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Post by Novi Pazar on Oct 19, 2010 0:30:24 GMT -5
Guys, Asen forgets when its convenient.....geez, l remember, the Bulgari suffered so much more
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Oct 19, 2010 0:41:30 GMT -5
When Serbs roll the dice, well that's life, what can we do, but when Bulgars roll the dice and loose their westlands (which were always inhabited by Serbs anyways) then they cry like small prostitutes for smth they never had.... They are hypocrites.
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Post by Novus Dis on Oct 19, 2010 1:07:51 GMT -5
WWI and WWII were concious decisions. The Serbian government decided in favour of an action, they rolled the dice and the events unfolded as they did. Complaining about the death count of Serbs in either of WWI or WWII is rather idiotic. Russia, for example, lost enough people to pupulate two or three Serbias. But like I said, Serbia made it's own decisions as did everyone else. Yet, it seems it's only Serbs that keep complaining and whining like little children. Again, this is something that is due to Serbia's own decisions. It's not like the Serbs were just sitting there minding their own business.. and if that's what you believe, if you think that Serbs are innocent victims of the mean ol' cold world, then you are dellusional. Serbs were unilaterally invaded by Austria in WW1 so Serbs didn't roll any kind of dice there. In WW2, the legitimate government of Yugoslavia was overthrown by a British organised coup. Again, not Serbs who rolled that dice.
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Post by ivo on Oct 19, 2010 16:00:35 GMT -5
Pazar and Gyrro, at the moment I don't feel like getting into this with you retards again.. so for the time being, ya'll can go blow each other. Peace out.
Princip killed on the orders of the Serb government. The assassination was not some random act of violence. That's the first conscious decision that was made. Second, Austria gave you a sort of an ultimatum that 'they'll invade if you don't provide access to your archives within a short period of time'. Serbia's response was that they'd allow for such an investigation only if it was performed by a neutral party. Austria said no, and they invaded.
Granted, your government wasn't in the best spot.. but the bottom line is that it was a string of poor decisions that lead to it. You had a few "outs", not many, but there were options. Austria was determined to invade, but you gave them the excuse to do so. The same thing happened with the US's initiatives in Kosova.
I'm not saying these were easy decisions to make, or that they were made under the ideal circumstances.. but you make it sound as if you were some innocent angels bothering absolutely no one, which was not the case.
Belgrade's elite, or at least much of the ruling class, was in agreement with the coup promoted by the Brits. So, yes, it was your own government that rolled the dice.
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