Greek and Albanian National costume !!

[rex362]

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[rex362]

Nov 10, 2010 17:25:16 GMT -5 rex362 said:

ok .....


for you Greeks when you have time ..read this and let us Albanians
know where your Greek National costume comes from ...see what Greeks historians say and not just Karta .... ;D

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from the book ....translate baby


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[rex362]

what size shoe you wear ??

[Kanaris]

Do you know the saying ...'some yelled 'fire' and the fool burned his clothes.... Thats what happening with you ...you went from the fustanella which the Greeks still wear to the Mycenean dynasty...Relax you still have to clear the 1250 hurdle...

[rex362]

it just fell in my lap ....but more for the lower pic

the upper pic is extra bonus

[kartadolofonos]

Spyridon_Louis

[ace]

Albanian Geg from the north (Shkodra, Greater Highlands) wearing fustanella armed to the teeth. What you Greeks want some.



You Greeks have taken a Albanian warrior dress and turn it into a transvestite dress.



No warrior is suppose to show his thighs in this manner (women stockings). ;D

[Scooter trash.]

wow purty purty frilly dress.

[ace]

"wow purty purty frilly dress"


That’s what a Greek things when he wears a fustanella



1:23 is interesting ;D ;D ;D

[rex362]

thats ok Ace .....there lies have little feet

[kartadolofonos]

ace

the called it Fustanella and not Albanella ;D

Fustanella's Greek skirt thats the point

Albanians wearing Greek costume !


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[rex362]

Karta ...we miss you where you been ....btw I think its time for some pics of Greek military equipment


bcs Albanians get hostile and feeling free ...when you post pics it puts em in their place

[kartadolofonos]

The use of the garment was probably spread by klephtic bands via Epirus into the rest Albania during the 18th and 19th centuries. Similar garments exist as part of the folk costume as far north as Romania and as far east as Syria, with nationalists on every side claiming the garment to be an indigenous creation. Similarities to historical garments in literature and on art objects make these claims difficult to prove or disprove.

One claim of an ancient link to the modern fustanella involves an ancient statue dated from the 3rd century BCE in Kerameikon (a part of Athens to the northwest of the Acropolis). Another claim involves a small figure from the 5th century BCE in Slovenia.[4] Another one was found in the outskirts of the ancient Greek city of Epidamnus (modern Durrës, Albania).[5] Yet another claim involves the statue carved in a niche in the Cave of Archedemos the Nympholept, near Mount Hymettus in Athens, which statue wears a fustanella-like garment and has been dated to c. 500 BCE. Archedemos, although living in Athens, came from the Spartan colony of Thera. This is why he carved himself wearing the Dorian tunic. The Dorian tunic was also a garment of Kouretes.

Evolution

Some Greeks, such as general Theodoros Kolokotronis had almost four hundred pleats in their garments, one for each year of Turkish rule over Greece. The style evolved over time. In the 18th and early 19th centuries, the skirts hung below the knees, and the hem of the garment was gathered together with garters and tucked into the boots to create a “bloused” effect. Later, during the Bavarian regency, the skirts were shortened to create a sort of billowy pantaloon that stopped above the knee; this garment was worn with hose, and either buskins or decorative clogs. This is the costume worn by the modern Greek Evzones, the Presidential Guard.

While the image of warriors with frilly skirts tucked into their boots may seem impractical to a contemporary audience, it should be noted that modern paratroopers use a similar method to blouse their trousers over their jumpboots. Lace was commonly worn on military uniforms in the west until well into the 19th century, and gold braid and other adornments still serve as markers of high rank in formal military uniforms. Fustanella were very labor-intensive and thus costly, which made them a status garment that advertised the wealth and importance of the wearer. Western observers of the Greek War of Independence noted the great pride which the klephts took in their foustanella, and how they competed to outdo each other in the sumptuousness of their costume.

[rex362]

Karta ....we want to see a picture of you with fustanella on

[ace]

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Far from it am afraid and it is the other way around Greeks wearing Albanian costume, I read in this topic that only Tosk Albanians wear the fustanella that’s why Greeks have use it since the two people being close to one another(territorial). Let me tell you that fustanella was worn by Gegs of the North as well as far as Kosova.


Look at this image, this type of headgear is only worn in kosova and in the Albanian “Kelmend” Tribal region of Montenegro. Looking at his weapons is fair to say that this painting is at 17-18 century. You might’s say that Albanian Gegs were influenced by Tosk but that influence in both sides met at middle Albania (shqiperia e mesme) and not any further.




Oh and one thing only Albanians claim red (white being the colour of the fustanella and gold as part of the dress decoration)


Illustrating the headgear of the above painting with more recent

[kartadolofonos]

Karta ....we want to see a picture of you with fustanella on

poli kalo rex

+1


ace
Fustanela was spread by Klephtic bands via Epirus into Albania during the 18th and 19th centuries.
This Fustanellades have liberated Greece from 400 years Ottomann yoke and send them back home where the came from !.

[ace]

Again the Tosk/Greek influence went as far as middle Albania and there it stopped, north Albania, Kosova and Albanian Macedonian region were not influenced by Tosks or Greeks and yet they wear Fustanella. How can you explain this? Here is a thought, ALL Albanians where ever they were wore Fustanella.

Keeping The Tradition and Warrior Spirit Alive




You, you, you, you, you, you, you, Disappointing and Degrading the Fustanella Image

[rex362]

I like hats

















Thessaly

[rex362]

Roman ......2nd century AD

[Kanaris]

fake