Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 28, 2010 2:17:54 GMT -5
God you're an idiot. Slovenian and Croatian development during the SFRY era (and even now) > Serbian. I don't know have to tell you this; any idiot knows it, and any Serb accepts that as the truth as well. If you don't trust them, look at the statistics, and you'll easily see that especially Slovenian, and Croatian productivity was much higher than the republics to the south. Moronic tool, nobody denied that communist Yugoslavia tried to promote all other nations except Serbs. However it all started in South Serbia and Sumadia, in 19th century, when Croats/Slovenes were still humble observers. Many Croats/Bosnians worked in Serbia in early 20th century for a better living (my Bosnian wife's grandpa one of thousands). I know facts are unpleasant... what can we do...
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 28, 2010 2:21:15 GMT -5
I will not talk about Sumadija, because any historical comparison in industrial development between Kragujevac and the rest of the balkans would be unfair. So i will make it more easy to you (which unfortunately, inevitably strengthens my argument) Find me the oldest (optionally heavy) industry in CRO/SLO and compare it with the latest (optionally heavy) industry in South Serbia. South Serbia had industrial activity since 19th century. For Cro/Slo it all started (and ended) with Tito. You have to also consider whether this so-called industry was profitable or not or was it just a waste of resources on a failed project ( this happened a lot in communist countries for example). Industrial infrastructure does not necessarily mean more prosperity ( again this can be seen with the failed but vast and expansive industries of the USSR.) I guess out of interest I can look up businesses back then , I don't have them readily available but what I do know is that ever since the inception of even the first Yugoslavia a lot of the GDP was generated from the Western Republics. If were talking about infrastructure I'll check out things like railroads , river irrigation, forestation, health - hospital and medical equipment, general transportation. These are all signs of infrastructure. I will not follow your coward attempts to change the subject. Facts: FIRST BALKAN DESIGNED GUN : SERBIA (1808) FIRST BALKAN HEAVY INDUSTRY : SUMADIJA, SRBIJA (mid 19th cent.) FIRST BALKAN TEXTILE INDUSTRY : STARA SRBIJA (late 19th cent.) As i said, Serbia gave too much and got nothing. Looking back at the GDPs one can see that Serbia with Kosovo is slightly worse than Vojvodina which is slightly better than Croatia. Someone could assume that Yugoslavia was established only for the development of the western republics, which prior to 1945 had absolutely no industrial past. see you.
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Post by rusebg on Dec 28, 2010 4:54:59 GMT -5
Why then Zastava, for instance, was established in Kragujevac?
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Post by Novus Dis on Dec 28, 2010 5:03:30 GMT -5
Why then Zastava, for instance, was established in Kragujevac? ಠ_ಠ Zastava was created in 1853.
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Post by rusebg on Dec 28, 2010 5:08:43 GMT -5
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Post by rusebg on Dec 28, 2010 5:10:03 GMT -5
You are just one century wrong. No big deal.
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 28, 2010 5:47:33 GMT -5
You are just one century wrong. No big deal. You are an idiot. The first military industry was created in Kragujevac about 1850. Later the same facilities were upgraded to manufacture cars and other vehicles as well. (and the cannon foundry was renamed to smth more yugo-sounding "Zastava") Every sign of heavy industry before 1945 was done in Serbia. (aircrafts, vehicles, everything). The croats/slovenians were good only in shining austrian boots (by licking them).
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Post by terroreign on Dec 28, 2010 5:50:11 GMT -5
^And don't forget the Bulgars, they were great at taking care of Hitler's dark desires
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 28, 2010 5:53:31 GMT -5
^And don't forget the Bulgars, they were great at taking care of Hitler's dark desires It hurts me to read that, knowing that at least 10% of them (the west part) are genuine Serbs.
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Post by terroreign on Dec 28, 2010 6:02:01 GMT -5
^At least 10% probably more like 30% though. Don't let Ruse hear you though, his smug-level will go through the roof and he'll spam the Serbian forums with crude remarks insulting people's livelihoods
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Kralj Vatra
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Post by Kralj Vatra on Dec 28, 2010 6:36:04 GMT -5
^^^ Bulgaria is full of surprises...
Did i ever mention that the tallest female i saw in my life (someth over 210cm) was in a supermarket in Sofia (just outside Ljulin metro station).
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Post by Novus Dis on Dec 28, 2010 7:16:43 GMT -5
None of them are Serbs. Just because they have some Serb blood, it doesn't mean they're Serbs.
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