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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:04:34 GMT -5
Post by terroreign on Dec 30, 2010 22:04:34 GMT -5
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:14:50 GMT -5
Post by Duke John on Dec 30, 2010 22:14:50 GMT -5
We have here in stores also Greek Vinegar, Greek Pepperoni, Greek Pickled Cucumbers, i was at store with a friend of mine that is originally from Iran, i was looking for some other stuff and he noticed these products and said, Since when these became "Greek", this stuff are some basic supplies in Iranian cuisine also. Greece has labeled these food supplies as "Greek" and exports them mainly to Northern Europe.
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:16:09 GMT -5
Post by logjiktek on Dec 30, 2010 22:16:09 GMT -5
Some pizzerias in New York sell byrek and I heard some of pizzerias refer it to "Albanian Pizza." To be fair though, Albanian Pizza has a better ring to it then Byrek.
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:16:38 GMT -5
Post by Duke John on Dec 30, 2010 22:16:38 GMT -5
Ridiculous, Pizza is an Italian invention and its going to be Italian forever.
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:19:43 GMT -5
Post by Duke John on Dec 30, 2010 22:19:43 GMT -5
Some pizzerias in New York sell byrek and I heard some of pizzerias refer it to "Albanian Pizza." To be fair though, Albanian Pizza has a better ring to it then Byrek. How a Byrek becomes Pizza??? i just dont get it, Byrek and Pizza are two different things. Is the bottom made of thin flaky layers and put on toppings and cheese???
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:28:27 GMT -5
Post by logjiktek on Dec 30, 2010 22:28:27 GMT -5
Some pizzerias in New York sell byrek and I heard some of pizzerias refer it to "Albanian Pizza." To be fair though, Albanian Pizza has a better ring to it then Byrek. How a Byrek becomes Pizza??? i just dont get it, Byrek and Pizza are two different things. Is the bottom made of thin flaky layers and put on toppings and cheese??? Well I know that, you know that and so do most people from the Balkans. But when the majority of your customers are non-Balkanites, referring it to as byrek might be a hard sell since customers might not feel comfortable buying it. Now change the name to say Albanian Pizza, and people are more likely to give it a try because it is something they can relate to. And I'm not sure how they make it. I've only heard of pizzerias selling byrek in NY, I haven't tried it.
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:31:06 GMT -5
Post by terroreign on Dec 30, 2010 22:31:06 GMT -5
^Burek's closer to a Calzone if anything
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:35:52 GMT -5
Post by Duke John on Dec 30, 2010 22:35:52 GMT -5
How a Byrek becomes Pizza??? i just dont get it, Byrek and Pizza are two different things. Is the bottom made of thin flaky layers and put on toppings and cheese??? Well I know that, you know that and so do most people from the Balkans. But when the majority of your customers are non-Balkanites, referring it to as byrek might be a hard sell since customers might not feel comfortable buying it. Now change the name to say Albanian Pizza, and people are more likely to give it a try because it is something they can relate to. And I'm not sure how they make it. I've only heard of pizzerias selling byrek in NY, I haven't tried it. I hope that some customer that knows about the lies goes to a restaurant or Pizzeria and embarres them in front of other customers, i wish i run into such restaurant.
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:39:59 GMT -5
Post by Duke John on Dec 30, 2010 22:39:59 GMT -5
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:45:58 GMT -5
Post by terroreign on Dec 30, 2010 22:45:58 GMT -5
^I meant its closer to a Calzone than Pizza is
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:49:13 GMT -5
Post by Duke John on Dec 30, 2010 22:49:13 GMT -5
^I meant its closer to a Calzone than Pizza is No its not, Pizza and Calzone have same dough and same fillings, the difference is that Calzone is covered or wrapped while Pizza is not. And a lot of people in Balkans confuse Byrek word for Pite/Pita, Byrek is made of thin flaky layers/Jufka and its prepared whole differently to Pite/Pita, Pita has also dough layers and filled between layers, but the layers are normal dough that are opened with oklagiu while preparing Jufka layers are much more complicated, each thin layers are dryed.
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 22:57:41 GMT -5
Post by terroreign on Dec 30, 2010 22:57:41 GMT -5
And Burek's covered and Pizza's not, see the parallel?
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 23:02:44 GMT -5
Post by Duke John on Dec 30, 2010 23:02:44 GMT -5
And Burek's covered and Pizza's not, see the parallel? I dont understand how you connect this: To This: Two different things, differently done and everything is different.
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 23:28:25 GMT -5
Post by kartadolofonos on Dec 30, 2010 23:28:25 GMT -5
The Turks have the same words for all there dishes who are of Greek Arhaic,Byzantine and Greek Authentic Mediterranean Cuisine ! (Greek dishes)...same words for all there dishes ,,, ντολμά (dolma), αυγά (ayva), λάχανα (lahana), κασέρι (kayseri/kaşar), χαλούμι (hellim) , μουσακά (musakka), μπάμιες (bamya), πιλάφι (pilav), ρόκα (roka), σαλάτα (salatası), σουτζούκι (sucuk), παστουρμά (pastırma), κεφτέ (kofte), μεζέ (meze), χαλβά (helva), κομπόστα (komposto), μπουρέκι (börek), τζατζίκι (cacık), τραχανά (tarhana), ντομάτες (domates), σπανακόπιτα (ispanaklı), μπαρμπούνια (barbunya), φάβα (fava), καλαμάρι (kalamar), κοκορέτσι (kokoreç), μπακαλιάρο (bakalyaro), πατσά (paça), εκμέκ (ekmek), ραβανί (revani), τουλούμπα (tulumba), καϊμάκι (kaymak), τσουρέκι (çörek), γιαούρτι (yoğurt), μέχρι και τον αστακό (ıstakoz)! See, Dolly (dolma), eggs (ayva), cabbage (lahana), cheese (kayseri / kaşar), halloumi (hellim), moussaka (musakka), okra (bamya), rice (pilav), rocket (roka), salad (salatası), soutzouki (sucuk), pastourma (pastırma), meatballs (kofte), appetizers (meze), halva (helva), compost (komposto), patty (börek), tzatziki (cacık), trachana (tarhana), tomatoes (domates), spinach (ispanaklı), mullet (barbunya), beans (fava), squid (kalamar), intestines (kokoreç), haddock (bakalyaro), tripe (paça), ekmek (ekmek), Cake (revani), touloumpa (tulumba), cream (kaymak), bun (çörek), yogurt (yoğurt)
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Burek!
Dec 30, 2010 23:53:10 GMT -5
Post by terroreign on Dec 30, 2010 23:53:10 GMT -5
And Burek's covered and Pizza's not, see the parallel? I dont understand how you connect this: Don't get me wrong; I'm not saying they're the same, just that it'd make more sense to call it "Albanian Calzone" than "Alb Pizza" which doesn't make any sense in concept Anyways, back to Burek. Pizza Burek ;D
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Burek!
Dec 31, 2010 1:55:33 GMT -5
Post by zoti on Dec 31, 2010 1:55:33 GMT -5
Some pizzerias in New York sell byrek and I heard some of pizzerias refer it to "Albanian Pizza." To be fair though, Albanian Pizza has a better ring to it then Byrek. I've lived in NYC for 15 years and haven't heard of such a thing. It's true that by now we own the majority of the pizzerias in NYC but burek is strictly confined to Bosnian eateries in Queens (Djerdan, Pasha, Sarajevo) and Albanian Byrektores in the Bronx (Dukagjini comes to mind). There's the occasional pizzeria that makes byrek but not worth it imho. AAA, the cebabnzica off steinway? I don't know if Sarajevo has a pljeskavica burger but we had the burgers at Pasha across the street from Zodiac in Astoria. Sarajevo makes the best cevapi in NYC imo.
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gavrilo
Amicus
Vi ste svi banane
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Burek!
Dec 31, 2010 8:22:20 GMT -5
Post by gavrilo on Dec 31, 2010 8:22:20 GMT -5
Agreed. Didn't realixe there were so many ppl from nyc on here
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Patrinos
Amicus
Peloponnesos uber alles
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Burek!
Dec 31, 2010 8:43:59 GMT -5
Post by Patrinos on Dec 31, 2010 8:43:59 GMT -5
Yes sure...we waited Ottomans to learn us how to eat mediterreanean... ;D they had special tastes in their steppes... with horse milk and thorns... ...btw did they have walnuts to make the baklava? Pitta is a Greek word, since ancient Greek, and the name of pizza comes from this word. Not that the Napolitina pizza is ...Greek, but yes the word its greek derived... just btw the name of that city too... www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=pizza
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Burek!
Dec 31, 2010 14:18:52 GMT -5
Post by atdhetari on Dec 31, 2010 14:18:52 GMT -5
i wish they'd make a special feature on computer for the purpose of inflicting some physical harm to jumped up morons like patrine when they talk reckless like this, almost all of balcan's cuisine is ottoman derived, fact!
did they have walnuts for their baklava....fuk's sake, its is getting a little hard to face such stupidity in these forums.
greeks, by far have inherited the most from turks, are you seriousl trying to convince us that greeks taught the ottomans how to cook? baklava, burek? greeks were fliging sheep faeces at each other when turks took over, jeez.
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Burek!
Dec 31, 2010 15:28:45 GMT -5
Post by Caslav Klonimirovic on Dec 31, 2010 15:28:45 GMT -5
Pizza deriving from Pita wow that's a bombshell! ...Looked it up and seems plausible too. Greeks really have pretty much invented everything in that case. What a glorious people.
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